This first message will be updated continously when new audio examples or other stuff arrives (along with the replies posted in this thread).
Audio examples are added in this message from up to down chronologically (so latest audio examples are at the bottom).

I've been coding extensively on a new project which is basically a comb vocoder (final sound or name not reached yet).

Here's some early demo audio:

BEFORE - AFTER - AFTER 2

It's too early to be very specific on the features that it will have and how the interface will look like but as soon as there's something to show you'll see it

THE INTERFACE WILL LOOK COMPLETELY DIFFERENT (MORE ADVANCED)
THEN THE SCREENSHOT PREVIOUSLY HERE (THUS REMOVED).

And yet another (larger, 1mb) audio demo of a later stage:
DOWNLOAD

Here's an audio sample of a later stage. Don't mind my musical qualities
| Before | After | each about 600kb.

Here's a new demo audio showing early version of the foldback algorithm being developed:
B e f o r e - - A f t e r

Here's a new audio example of the prototype granular vocoder component being implemented into Vocomber:
Before . After

Here're some sound examples of the VSTi version of Vocomber. It is driven by a stereo white noise generator at this point (no oscillators). It is capable of rather impressive horn/violin 'emulations'. Well judge for yourself:
Horn solo (320kb) - Violin solo (160kb) - Horn & Violin combined (320kb)

Here's a combination of experimental components tested resulting in an ambient newage like soundscape:
[before] :: [after]

Much improved! Polyphony and interpolation added! This is 3 Vocombers in action (two fx, one synth):
- |B|E|F|O|R|E| - |A|F|T|E|R| -

With moog, formant and biquad filters + envelopes added, nice basslines are becoming possible (the bassline is not generated using oscillators but using a white noise signal!). A few standard fx were added (chorus/eq):
Download unofficial Vocomber demo audio test track NOW!

3 Vocombers used, one including new phaser filter, other two piano & brass emulation in early stage (no velocity implemented yet):
DIRECT LINK TO LATEST AUDIO DEMO

Sounds interesting, mostly the quick repetitions.

hei i've been to your site right now, but what happened to rain machine?
no sign of it anymore.. exept the screenshot in your logo..
well, listening to that combvocoder mp3 i wonder if there is a little bit rainmachine inside your new project?
i really liked that rainy thing, it only seems to have problems with remembering the settings correctly after loading.

Sounds good Antipro,

Have you tried mixing the before and after?

Anyway you got my vote (yes)

If you had a box for "boy howdy", I'd tick it.

The Rain Machine was removed from the site for various reasons of which in fact the most important one being that it was made with SynthEdit and using very much cpu for what it does (and many irritating bugs due to it being made with SynthEdit). The comb vocoder project will be a real VST (as in programmed in C++). You could say it contains some ideas from Rain Machine but every bit of it has been completely rewritten so the algorithms are specifically designed for the purpose of this project (whereas Rain Machine was just a modular setup with a skin).
The comb vocoder at this point uses only a few % of CPU to achieve the rather smooth silky sound it already has, while the Rain Machine was not controllable with MIDI notes (which makes it almost useless in combination with other tuned instruments unless used as a delay unit) and uses over 20% CPU on this system.
This demo audio also doesn't feature the peak detector yet that will be put in the final version (a peak detector that will be tunable!).
As soon as there's more to hear or to see it will be posted on this forum.

I've created a new "after" demo audio for the repititive beat showing better that the tune is controlled by MIDI notes:

AFTER 2

At this point the comb vocoder is monophonic (only one voice at a time), however I'm working on polyphony.

Why do I keep thinking of Yazoo when I hear this...

(in a good way)

sounds pretty cool....hey why not call it "VoCOMBer"

Cheers

Comb Vocoder?!! Is this the Virtual Kazoo we've been waiting for?

My vote would be for CombOver

The name will probably be Covoder

Heh, I like that too!
Definitely keep me posted on its development.
Cheers,
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Covoder is a name that exists already, so it will probably be Vocomber after all.

Here's an early screenshot of what the Vocomber might look like:

THE INTERFACE WILL LOOK COMPLETELY DIFFERENT (MORE ADVANCED)
THEN THE SCREENSHOT PREVIOUSLY HERE (THUS REMOVED).

This is merely a view of the design of the Vocomber, the final parameters and implementation are not finished yet.

I dare you to make a Mac version!

If it is popular enough (that means if enough people will buy it) then a Mac version might follow. About the price: It will not go over 20$ and a free Lite version might be released also (along with a demo).

The AntiPro synthesis site has been updated with some info on the Vocomber. http://antipro.tk

brittnell wrote:

My vote would be for CombOver

id buy it if it was called combover and the gui featured bobby charlton

A new audio demo is online (about 1mb in size):
DOWNLOAD

Made with one beat loop and one voice sample. The melody is entirely controlled by Vocomber.

The site at http://antipro.tk has been updated with the new information regarding Vocomber.

I've been playing around with the current (much evolved) Vocomber beta and made this weird LSD track with it, which uses two different modes of the Vocomber (rendering the vocal sample to an electronic horn section!).

| Before | After | each about 600kb.

Difference between Before and After are two Vocomber units (using about 4% of CPU each on a P4 1700MHz here), both controlled by MIDI notes. This is still monophonic, since polyphony is not yet implemented.

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id buy it if it was called combover and the gui featured bobby charlton
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Brilliant!

tony Smyth wrote:

id buy it if it was called combover and the gui featured bobby charlton

Brilliant! Is that what they call J-Humour?

sounds a bit like the free ohm force plug called ohmygod. which is also a midi controlled combfilter

It's not just like the Ohmygod plugin (although that sound can erupt from it too). It will probably feature 4 comb delay lines which are routable in many different ways.

Here's another demo audio of a more evolved Vocomber:
B E F O R E :: A F T E R

A new demo audio for future Vocomber is amongst us! This shows the foldback distortion algorithm (early version) to enrichen the output sound:

B e f o r e - - A f t e r

One current Vocomber alpha version VST was used between before/after. Demo audio files are each about 1MB in size.

You can also access them via http://antipro.tk (in Products section).

Wow.. I checked out the site, and I have to say, the Vocomber effect is truly amazing. It would be useful in all application of any style in my opinion. Unless the person is completely uncreative. I haven't had a chance to check everything out yet, but the plugins at that site are amazing. Great job.

AntiPro wrote:

It's not just like the Ohmygod plugin (although that sound can erupt from it too). It will probably feature 4 comb delay lines which are routable in many different ways.

OK-it sounds more like Brush/BrushFX by Concrete FX then...
ew

Freeform,

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..., the Vocomber effect is truly amazing. It would be useful in all application of any style in my opinion. Unless the person is completely uncreative.

Why don't you crawl right up my ass? Aiming for a free copy of the Vocomber eh?

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I haven't had a chance to check everything out yet, but the plugins at that site are amazing. Great job.

You can't possibly be serious. The plugins currently on the AntiPro site are mere tryouts, sounding in my own opinion rather bad and basic. I hereby promise the Vocomber won't come near the inferior quality of those tryouts (that is it will be better ofcoz ). The components there won't even be used in the Vocomber at all by the way.

Thanks though for your enlightening opinions

...waiting to test it out...

phose, as soon as there's something to see there will be a beta demo (will also for sure be announced in this thread and on the AntiPro site).

In the meantime, here's some feature ideas that will be implemented:
- Synthesizer version (VSTi)
- Quadruple comb delay setup with free routing capability
- Drawable convolution machine for filter creation
- All components can be disabled for better CPU use (also dynamic disabling based on knob values)
- Filters and comb delay frequencies both able to be controlled by MIDI notes

All these components will have their own specific characteristics and added features to enrichen the sound of the whole and more components will probably be added along the way.

The skin of Vocomber will completely differ from the one I posted earlier (although the knobs/switch design might still be used it will have a more immersing interface with drawable waveforms and such).

Just was testing an alpha version.

Very ok I must say, the synth mode offers rich possibilities.

rather amazing maybe, never seen before in fact. diffikult to describe the sound, quite versatile

filter needs some improvement I think (AntiPro agreed and is working on it already:)


in fact, wanted to compose something new with this early alpha, but I work in renoise, and renoise doesn't (yet) support midi note control on FX.
(But renoise will be improved, and AntiPro said he planned to expand the vocomber to be used without midi notes too)

Fat Machine AntiPro!

The early screenshot that was available of Vocomber has been removed from all locations, because the interface will look very different (more advanced).

You're a damn tease!

Another teaser is here!

Here's a new audio example of the prototype granular vocoder component being implemented into Vocomber as we speak:
Before . After

Note that to achieve the difference between the Before and After sound only 1% of CPU was used!!! (on a P4 1.7GHz)

It will be interesting to see if it gets "cracked" by 0xdBass.

eh, I sure hope not

Here're some sound examples of the VSTi version of Vocomber. It is driven by a stereo white noise generator at this point (no oscillators). It is capable of rather impressive horn/violin 'emulations'. Well judge for yourself:

Horn solo (320kb) - Violin solo (160kb) - Horn & Violin combined (320kb)

This is still monophonic (one voice). The audio examples have a tiny bit of reverb on them.

Hi 0xd or should i say: Hwsnbn ?

Better stick to this business ...

dave.powell wrote:

Hi 0xd or should i say: Hwsnbn ? Better stick to this business ...

Way to make an ass of yourself, Dave. Two posts and already slinging mud? Or have you signed up just for that purpose?


Btw Antipro, that horn sound is fantastic. Is that out of the box or have you added external fx?

The new audio example have a touch of simple reverb on them, but that's it. It's only a very early try. Some planned things for the VSTi version are multiple kinds of noise generators and formant filtering (to create choirs). Also envelopes (ADSR/LFO) and other stuff will for sure be added along the way (and more).

this is absolutely crazy, I am very impressed

Hey thanks man!

Some new goodies to tease you people!

Here's an audio demo of 2 Vocomber VSTi units playing:
DOWNLOAD Synthetic Ensemble

Still monophonic, polyphony will soon be implemented. A touch of delay was added on the audio demo (regular 50% feedback delay, same one on both).

And here's an early try on the skin graphics for the on screen keyboard (and pitchbend/modwheel):

It sounds good. Just get it done and release it already. This "teasing" is getting old.

Yeah, I know

I just have the tendency to share the sounds I create while testing various Vocomber states Sorry for the immense flood of audio examples I'll keep em posted though, will make a nice library in the end

The release of Vocomber will take a while still, I'm experimenting with some new techniques and combinations, which lengthens the development process heavily. I made another demo audio (sounding quite different from the previous ones) which uses a combination of some of the components being worked on, resulting in an ambient like 'newage' soundscape thing (be aware that this doesn't reflect 'the' sound of the Vocomber). The demo audio is like previous examples midi note controlled.

[before] :: [after]

Another note: AntiPro synthesis will probably change name in the near future (we notice that the name AntiPro doesn't really make people take us seriously, which is kind of logical ). Also Vocomber might result in a product with a different name, since as new ideas and algorithms grow it's becoming apparent that the name Vocomber doesn't really cover the plugins features anymore (also it sounds an awful lot like cucumber if you think of it ).

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The Rain Machine was removed from the site for various reasons of which in fact the most important one being that it was made with SynthEdit and using very much cpu for what it does (and many irritating bugs due to it being made with SynthEdit).

How about the fact that it was made using a stolen version?

Indeed, it was saved with a cracked version. But if that would've been the problem I could just've saved it again with the free version (it doesn't use any of the registered features). Rain Machine was just a CPU hogging plugin with little usability. SynthEdit is something we don't use anymore at AntiPro anyways.

Here's a new audio demo made with a highly improved Vocomber (finished polyphony and interpolation since last demo audio yesterday).

The demo has been made with 3 instances of Vocomber, all controlled by the same (polyphone) MIDI note track (so only ONE melody track used!). Two Vocombers are used as effect (one on the beat and another on the voices) and one as synth (the background 'horn' section). The synth is actually the same as feeding the Vocomber effect with white noise at this point.

- |B|E|F|O|R|E| - |A|F|T|E|R| -

The Vocomber used on the beat has an added phaser plugin and there's a basic stereo (pingpong) feedback delay on the whole sound. Here's an 'after' version without those added effects (pure Vocomber!): Download

Note to the No-voters:
It would be nice if you could explain what exactly is wrong with the demo sounds so I can improve it. Thanks.

give the guy a break, he said sorry a 100x

at least he is trying coding c++ and doing a very good job so far.

sorry but imo he had his bashing, lets let him move on, we all do shit sometimes.

good luck with vocomber.

7XL wrote:

Quote: The Rain Machine was removed from the site for various reasons of which in fact the most important one being that it was made with SynthEdit and using very much cpu for what it does (and many irritating bugs due to it being made with SynthEdit). How about the fact that it was made using a stolen version?

I just made a short track with the current Vocomber alpha version (two of them). The only thing used besides that are a few drum samples (one of the Vocombers is used as send on the drums). With moog, formant and biquad filters + envelopes added, nice basslines are becoming possible (the bassline is not generated using oscillators but using a white noise signal!). A few standard fx were added (chorus/eq).

Download unofficial Vocomber demo audio test track NOW!

Here's another quick track using some Vocomber units (3 of them). The only thing used besides that are some drum samples. No other effects or postprocessing was applied.

Download Vocomber Pop Demo

Yeah, stop putting choruses/phasers on the demos, please.
The "Pop Demo" is real good, I'm very much looking forward to this pluggie

The final will have phaser/flanger/chorus integrated.

You need to market this to electroclash producers, they'll go crazy for those metallic tones. Just don't let them hear the trancey pop demo!

Mike

Yeah, musically speaking that pop demo is awful .
Note that that pop demo has been made with very little musical info (tiny amount of notes/patterns used) and no automation at all. All notes have the same velocity too. So imagine how it sounds with some automation added and velocity! (waiting for my MIDI keyboard to arrive back here to start working on the velocity curve of Vocomber)

Sounds interesting!!

--th

Yes people, ANOTHER demo audio! This shows current power of Vocomber with reworked engine, convolution machine, soft clipping, multiple filters, integrated chorus/flanger implemented and more. A punchy goa/dance track using 3 Vocombers and some drums:

Download

Download (without delay, pure vocomber & drums)

Don't mind my ugly composing skills, listen to that growling Vocomber bass instead

How about no more crap demos, and just give us the product

Hype-Spam-Hype-Spam

Just working on it until it is finished.

AntiPro:

so maybe you should actually spend your time working on it and not making these demos

skybax wrote:

AntiPro: so maybe you should actually spend your time working on it and not making these demos

yeah really!
this tease thread has been going on for three months now!

Making these demo's doesn't take much time as they are really a product of testing Vocomber.

Just to inform you that the AntiPro synthesis site has updated, with a recent audio demo added.

DIRECT LINK TO LATEST AUDIO DEMO

3 Vocombers used, one including new phaser filter, other two piano & brass emulation in early stage (no velocity implemented yet).

lol