Read an article about this in SOS years ago but can I find it?

What I'm playing with is feeding the output of delay plugins back into thier input. Getting mixed results.

I've tried:
Uising out of U2A into in of UA5, Delay out routed to U2a, monitor enable on return then then routing back to bus. (cubase pops out of monitor mode on stop) Interesting but fiddly!

Using the mixer in Reason as you would on a desk to do this, results in same screachy mess after a few second no matter what the source matterial.

Just wondered if any body has any other ideas? as I'm an the verge of buying another mixer and external effects proc (AGAIN )

Gotta be careful with infinite feedback loops like that. If the feedback gets out of control, very quickly the signal turns into digital noise - very harsh and ugly.

Try tempering the feedback line before you send it back in again. Reducing its volume helps control runaway looping. Also, filtering or EQ'ing the feedback line can be really helpful too.

Finally, I'd definitely suggest putting a delay (100% wet) on the feedback line too, even if it's just 50ms, just to slow down the loop slightly and give the host a chance to 'breathe'.

Hope any of this helps ...

You could try putting a compressor/limiter on the feedback path, the signal will become crunchy after a while but never over a certain limit.

this is a great idea.
I was trying to do the same. And just get that digital crunch. Let me know what you come up with please!

I was trying to do that feedback thing like you can do on a real real mixing board.
For that true dub sound.

Anyone have any other ideas to get that dub delay going on in a sequencer? Any signal paths to try out or particular vst fx....or anything?!

thanks!
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Thanks dburgen & matius,

Its a knife edge we walk riding the gains on this one LOL, More tweeters please! Been using send effects for this so 100% wet anyway. shelved hf eq is another part of the plan here as in bringing it in & out over duration (not making life easy here am I) which on an ana board takes two people & rehearsal, so I was hoping to automate.

Like the compression idea though, will experiment.

moved over to using external controllers this eve, found mouse tweaking far to dangerous. Continued with monitor/bus2 thing but ended up going to DAT with it then bouncing back in

Will keep posted with progress, and final speaker replacement costs.

i just bought a roland re-201 space echo, but before this i used to get pretty good results with the MDA Dub Delay, and MDSP's (over at Smart Electronix) Analog Delay. Both have been made with this great dubbing poetntial in mind, so they are well worth a try.