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AuthorTopic: Ohmforce Experience
StudioSense
Posted: 10th October 2003 03:22
I'm seriously thinking about getting this bundle.
Details here
For just over £200, it seems like very good value.
I have toyed with most of the demos and was very impressed.
Is there anyone here with any more ohm experience?

Please advise...

Cheers.
putte
Posted: 10th October 2003 03:59
i can“t rate them high enough actually.

first they“re top soundquality,
then the Ohmies really managed to reinvent such oldish and known effects like phaser, delay, distortion etc., so i think they“re VERY original.
And last i really dig their Interfaces ... automating them is awesome!

And for the price you get an extreme powerful package of bombs, me thinks.

top stuff!

putte
norman666
Posted: 10th October 2003 04:25
[quote]And last i really dig their Interfaces [/quote]

Well, I hope you mean you like the OhmBoyz 'classic' skin.
Otherwise, what knob do you like the most, the one with the cat or the one with the guy with the glasses? Laughing
That's what i call a -wrong- interface. Mad

Don't get me wrong, the stuff sounds like the best!
I just hate these knobs.

Norman
StudioSense
Posted: 10th October 2003 04:30
Thankfully there is a choice Smile
I think a funky gui can be inspirational though.
Imagine using it whilst on acid or something, it would bake your noodle Smile
Pantsdown666
Posted: 10th October 2003 04:34
i like the interfaces too ...
but i made this Frohmage jpeg for my students, feel free to grab it if confused Laughing

putte
Posted: 10th October 2003 04:36
norman666 wrote:
Quote:
And last i really dig their Interfaces


Well, I hope you mean you like the OhmBoyz 'classic' skin.


okay okay ... i admit that the ohmboyz-freakskin is the only one not being that good ... but on the others i prefer the freaky skins. Embarassed

putte
putte
Posted: 10th October 2003 04:38
Pantsdown666 wrote:



Surprised distortion, resonance etc.???

I always used it as a reverb ... Shocked ... HiHi

putte
dr.wackler
Posted: 10th October 2003 04:42
norman666 wrote:
Quote:
And last i really dig their Interfaces


Well, I hope you mean you like the OhmBoyz 'classic' skin.
Otherwise, what knob do you like the most, the one with the cat or the one with the guy with the glasses? Laughing
That's what i call a -wrong- interface. Mad


Except for the size the Ohmboyz funky skin is a very -right- interface. And I don't mean "it's fun and it looks great", no, just every knob sits in the right place, the relative size of more important parameters is chosen right, the signal-flow becomes clear, the parameters are grouped in a logical way, etc. etc.

(For Predatohm OTOH I prefer the classic skin for the exact same reasons...)
Pantsdown666
Posted: 10th October 2003 04:50
putte wrote:

Surprised distortion, resonance etc.???
I always used it as a reverb ... Shocked ... HiHi

putte


i ride mine to the supermarket to get the groceries with Surprised Shocked Surprised Shocked

... actually i just automated each fucntion one by one and those are the names that came up ...
dr.wackler
Posted: 10th October 2003 05:18
Pantsdown666 wrote:

... actually i just automated each fucntion one by one and those are the names that came up ...


... actually i just opened the pdf document that comes with it ... Wink
norman666
Posted: 10th October 2003 05:34
[quote]Except for the size the Ohmboyz funky skin is a very -right- interface. And I don't mean "it's fun and it looks great", no, just every knob sits in the right place, the relative size of more important parameters is chosen right, the signal-flow becomes clear, the parameters are grouped in a logical way, etc. etc.
[/quote]

Yeah, the knobs are in the right place allright.
But wouldn't it be handy to see what the knobs do?
For example, a knob with a cat doesn't say anything to me. Neither do the men with the glasses say anything about the knobs.
Also numbering is as bad as it can be...

Like: ok, i'll just turn knob #4 with the cat to... err... yeah... to cat the sound to #4?

By the way, I don't have anything against cats! Wink

Norman
dr.wackler
Posted: 10th October 2003 05:36
Pantsdown666 wrote:
i like the interfaces too ...
but i made this Frohmage jpeg for my students, feel free to grab it if confused Laughing




Btw. you might want to change the "Distortion On/Off" label to "Distortion Routing", as it selects 'all signal distorted' in the left position and ''only Lowpass Filter output distorted' in the right6 position.
Pantsdown666
Posted: 10th October 2003 05:45
dr.wackler wrote:
Pantsdown666 wrote:

... actually i just automated each fucntion one by one and those are the names that came up ...


... actually i just opened the pdf document that comes with it ... Wink


oop musta missed that Embarassed
Rabid
Posted: 10th October 2003 05:50
I have been waiting for this package a long time. Anyone know of any breaks for people who already own one or more of the plugs?

Robert
dr.wackler
Posted: 10th October 2003 05:59
norman666 wrote:

Yeah, the knobs are in the right place allright.
But wouldn't it be handy to see what the knobs do?


I knew this by heart after 1 day of using the PlugIn. Don't you? I think it's so well layed out that it's very clear. Only complaint from my side would be the size of the Bandwith ('Q') knob, as it is used only with the bandpass filter.

norman666 wrote:
For example, a knob with a cat doesn't say anything to me. Neither do the men with the glasses say anything about the knobs.


No they don't, but why should they? All the parameters are clearly labeled either by name or by signs. Does the brushed aluminium background of knobs on other manufacturers plugins say anything about a knob's function?

norman666 wrote:
Also numbering is as bad as it can be...

Like: ok, i'll just turn knob #4 with the cat to... err... yeah... to cat the sound to #4?


Come on, it clearly says "Predelay" at the left side of the section, and then the four Predelays are numbered 1 to 4. Don't act stupid, I believe you are not. And even if you were, you could click on a knob and read its name in the Main Edit display.
norman666
Posted: 10th October 2003 06:18
Sorry to say, but i doo mean this.
This interface got me confused very easy.
Only the fact that i have to look very good to see what a knob does, makes it a bad interface instantly.

Specially when a background of an interface is overwhelming the most important parts, ... , the knobs.

A good interface doesn't even make you look where to find a parameter.

Norman
Ronny Pries
Posted: 10th October 2003 06:25
Norman666,

no offense but why do you complain about the funky skin if there's the classic skin for you?

you've got the option, make your choice. i went for the funky skin because i find it very attractive and easy to use.

ronny
norman666
Posted: 10th October 2003 06:41
I'm not complaining... I'm just saying that for me it's not easy to use... unlike dr.wackler says.

I'm glad that the classic skin is included too!
As i said before, the plugin is amazing...

Norman
pough
Posted: 10th October 2003 09:08
The problem with the funky skins is it can be hard to tell what's functional and what's merely fashion. For instance, there were two controls on Frohmage that I didn't know were controls until Pd666 posted his jpeg. I didn't read the manual, BTW, but Frohmage is a plugin that I downloaded, looked at, and then stopped looking at.

The brushed metal does tell you something. It tells you that you can ignore it. It's negative space. There is no negative space on the funky skins. And the controls look like they're just a part of the noisy background.

I could have taken the time to really investigate and figure out what was background noise and what wasn't, but I just didn't feel like it. I was new to the world of plugins at the time, and I needed all the help I could get. That interface is the opposite of help.
dr.wackler
Posted: 10th October 2003 09:15
pough wrote:
The brushed metal does tell you something. It tells you that you can ignore it. It's negative space. There is no negative space on the funky skins. And the controls look like they're just a part of the noisy background.


Fair enough, you make a good point there! Exclamation
Pantsdown666
Posted: 10th October 2003 15:42
went and downloaded the manual, which I missed unti Dr Wack pointed out there was one, also found some good presets there.

Forgot to mention before that whatever it looks like, I LOVE this plug.

ALSO ... corrected the diagram in regards to distortion, as Dr Wack pointed out. btw there's only the funky skin available for OS9.
dr.wackler
Posted: 10th October 2003 18:54
Pantsdown666 wrote:
btw there's only the funky skin available for OS9.


AFAIK there never was a classic skin for any OS.
jonas the plugexpert
Posted: 12th October 2003 04:53
I love ohmboys plugins for their sound + interface/skins. Hopefully they'll release a vst softsynth in the near future,.bet those guys can come up with a killer synth.
nuffink
Posted: 12th October 2003 05:08
jonas the plugexpert wrote:
I love ohmboys plugins for their sound + interface/skins. Hopefully they'll release a vst softsynth in the near future,.bet those guys can come up with a killer synth.


http://www.melohman.com
pHz
Posted: 12th October 2003 05:14
and of course you can already get the oddity which the ohm fellas worked on

slainte Cool rob
Initializing Behaviours
Posted: 12th October 2003 05:20
I bought the ten dollar version of Ohmforce two years ago. I never used another delay again Cool
Pantsdown666
Posted: 12th October 2003 05:25
Melohman sounds good Smile

btw jonas, really like the "Pierlooqup Meets Jonas The Plug Expert" ep on your site - great beats, sorta Prefuse 73 meets Amon Tobin on a few tracks there. Nice site too.
StudioSense
Posted: 13th October 2003 09:48
OK, sold.
I shall get 'em Smile
VeXKoN
Posted: 14th October 2003 02:16
image is very important in the commercial world. Even if you love or hate it, your talking about it... so a big thumbs up to ohm, these doods know wot they doin'. However, I have yet to purchase any of there stuff Confused Seems I only ever buy expensive things, maybe I should reevaluate my position Surprised
Red_Force
Posted: 14th October 2003 07:11
Maybe you won't. We won't forget the pre OFE customers... Just wait that this Melohman frenzy has a bit cool down...
Liondream
Posted: 14th October 2003 08:09
In the past the crazy gui and crazy website design kept me from exploring these in more depth. But I've re-evaluated my feelings on that. And I'm also glad I waited because the Experience bundle sounds great. It's definitely on my list.

I'll say one thing about the guis...

Even if you were to use the classic skin most of the time (as I envision I would). I think it's cool to have the crazy unfamiliar skin... in an Eno-esque sort of way. Being forced to think about it or maybe explore instead of falling into familiar patterns, which I find myself doing with gear once it becomes second nature.

There used to be a photoshop plugin in the old days called KPT Convolver... also crazy guis on the kpt stuff. With Convolver, the more you played with it, the more functions would begin to appear after a certain amount of time.

It was annoying as hell, but conceptually, from a creative standpoint, I think that was a really cool idea.

Don't know if any of you guys remember your very first synth experience... mine was in the days before presets. I'm embarrassed to say it took me about half an hour before I finally got it to make a sound. Then there was a period of what seemed to me were absolutely incredible sounds, followed by a period of staleness as I began to 'think' about things too much and then fell into habits over a period of time.

Anyway... just my argument for one possible case where an unfamiliar gui might be a positive.
StudioSense
Posted: 15th October 2003 06:56
Well, it turned up today and I have to say I am loving it!
I have simply wasted the entire morning messing about with them, there are so many possibilities!
I will be reviewing these fellas on StudioSense once I've had a bit more time to explore them properly.
My advice thus far to anyone reading this thread and thinking about getting them is simply:
DO IT!
You will not regret it.
Thanks Ohmies, I'm inspired!
puffer
Posted: 15th October 2003 09:15
So, Red_Force, you're saying that we who purchased a plug or two back in the download only days will get an offer to upgrade to the complete pack at some point without having to purchase what we already own? That would be swell.
StudioSense
Posted: 15th October 2003 21:57
Well, they turned up about 23 hours ago, I haven't stopped messing with them since they got here.
I think I should go to bed now. Embarassed
Be warned, though they sound superlush, they are dangerously addictive!
topaz
Posted: 19th November 2003 02:58
man your not wrong, I got OFE yesterday and iv'e been up all night learning these.

many had said that ohmboyz was
THE delay plugin to have, and now I see why.

I tried it when it 1st came out but (maybe im too old)
the funky skin threw me, but with the classic skins it's so much easier to see whats going on.

TOP notch plugins, I shal never want another delay again. and as for the rest. mmm no sleep for a week.

Very Happy


StudioSense wrote:
Well, they turned up about 23 hours ago, I haven't stopped messing with them since they got here.
I think I should go to bed now. Embarassed
Be warned, though they sound superlush, they are dangerously addictive!
StudioSense
Posted: 19th November 2003 03:14
Bang on!

For those that want more info, I reviewed them here:
http://studiosense.sytes.net/studiosense/viewtopic.php?t=605
putte
Posted: 19th November 2003 03:19
To me it“s the most useful plugin-bundle outthere, “cause each of these plugs is just brilliant in what it does. For subtle things, and even more for unique effects you can“t do that way with other plugs.

Simply Ohmazing!

Love

putte
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