|Author||Topic: E-Phonic RetroDelay released! (FREE)|
Posted: 25th March 2004 11:29
I've released version 1.0 of the C++ coded version of RetroDelay (the previous demo version was SynthEdit).... and it is totally FREE!
Retro Delay is a flexible allround delay effect in VST format.
It has the character and sound of a vintage delay unit but features many modern options.
Besides delays, it can produce a wide range of modulation, chorus, flanger and phaser effects.
Independent left and right channel delay lines
BPM synced or manual times (up to 6 seconds)
Forwards or backwards delays
X-feedback (ping pong)
'1 feedback pass', there will always be 1 feedback
Optional negative feedback for phaser/flanger effects
Optional short delay times for phaser/flanger effects
Integrated automatic limiter
2 BPM synced LFO's 1 modulates filter cutoff, the other the delay time (only available for forwards delay)
4 LFO modes, sine, triangle, ramp, envelope follower
LFO, left/right channel inverse options
24dB/oct resonant filter placed in the feedback path
Switchable lowpass, bandpass, highpass, lowshelf and highshelf mode.
Saturate and limit parameters
2 different types
Old-school spring reverb
Size, color and mix parameters
Optional mono mode
Fade out option, when using high feedback setings
Fade out time parameter
Pitchbend wheel, for smooth delay time changes
Currently there's no midi CC implemented... i'll try to do that soon.
Of corse there's still room for loads of impovements... but it's been work enough for this release allready
Just download & load the included presets to see what it's capable of!
Posted: 25th March 2004 11:34
And this fellow countryman is the first to thank you for it:
Posted: 25th March 2004 11:41
Can't wait to try it later tonight.
Posted: 25th March 2004 11:42
Whoa thanks E-phonic!
Posted: 25th March 2004 11:45
... and me without my DAW!
Posted: 25th March 2004 11:54
Posted: 25th March 2004 11:58
you already know what i think of this thing pj !!!
everyone else ... if you havent already go download this thing - for vintage type delay effects (and a few other tricks) its GREAT !!!
Posted: 25th March 2004 11:59
I didnt know about your products before i read this.. They are great! I love the drummachine and xpressor!
I found a little bug in the delay. It cannot be found as a vst send in cubase SE (probably the same in SL and SX?). There is a workaround though .. insert it in a group and send to the group. Thought you should know about it.
Is there any way to temposync the delay? Perhaps it already is...........Yes it is I just found it.
I hit the active to the right? Instead of manual mode .. ahh.. i understand
Posted: 25th March 2004 12:01
congrats on your first plugin. I'll give it a try now.
Posted: 25th March 2004 12:06
Posted: 25th March 2004 12:06
Posted: 25th March 2004 12:08
Thanks, but.... it isn't my first plugin
I've put that on my 2do list!
Posted: 25th March 2004 12:10
One can never have too many good delays
Posted: 25th March 2004 12:16
I thought they were all SynthEdit until now, but now that I'm looking at your site I must have missed a few inbetween
Anyway, I already like this. Nice work
Posted: 25th March 2004 12:39
Weren't you going to charge for this one? or was that another delay plug>?
Anyway, thanks so much, this is a cracking little plugin
Posted: 25th March 2004 12:47
From the old RetroDelay post:
Posted: 25th March 2004 12:47
cool interface! i'll check it out. bedankt!
Posted: 25th March 2004 13:21
Posted: 25th March 2004 13:21
Had allready heard the demo when you posted it and I cannot wait to get this up and running.........
Now go make some music
Posted: 25th March 2004 13:31
Thanks and congratulations on another fine release.
Proper job on the GUI too!
Posted: 25th March 2004 14:01
yesterday he made the best Flash game ever and today he codes a delay in C++, this man is incredible!
Posted: 25th March 2004 14:10
Congrats for your c++ delay!!!!!
..i love your se stuff yet....
Posted: 25th March 2004 14:10
He did? What is it? Is it better than the "Whose Boobs?" game?
Posted: 25th March 2004 14:52
I'm downloading this now, I must say e-phonic's Gui's always impress me, something about them is very well constructed, as if they are asking to be played with.
Posted: 25th March 2004 14:54
thank you so much for this plugin e-phonic.
this is just a fantastic and super-useful delay line.
I'm going to have a ton of fun with this fella
<edit> forgot to mention - the GUI is excellent too </edit>
Posted: 25th March 2004 15:03
thanks for the plug-in!
One can never have too many delays!
Posted: 25th March 2004 15:08
downloaded allready, will try this one soon
but hey, if it's quality is comparable to your other plugins then i WILL like it
Posted: 25th March 2004 15:21
Thanks a lot. I would certainly donate money for your plugs, but I have no problem grabbing and using them for free, if that is your wish.
I hope no one finds a little bug somewhere, because I know you will take time you don't have to fix it. Not fixing it would drive you nuts. Then, you'll be thinking "I should have sold the damn thing."
Posted: 25th March 2004 15:27
A link to this game, please?
Posted: 25th March 2004 15:31
I tried this plugin earlier today, and have to say that it is awesome...I love those backward delays.
Posted: 25th March 2004 15:49
Great plug-in thank you. I think my search for a tape delay is over.
Posted: 25th March 2004 15:50
Thanks for tyhe prompt delay e-phonic. You are amazing. We love you.
Posted: 25th March 2004 16:10
I'm sure I'll use this one, thanks very much
Great GUI too - most of your plug are inherently useable, have good sound and have such straight-forward, obvious GUIs. Better than many commercial plugs I can think of!
Posted: 25th March 2004 16:11
I haven't tried it yet, but I would be very surprised if it wasn't excellent.
Posted: 25th March 2004 16:27
Wonderfull GUI, it is top class.
Posted: 25th March 2004 16:32
Can't seem to open the E-Phonic page, is it down?
Is there a direct link for this plug in instead?
Posted: 25th March 2004 16:36
Thank you so much for this! I'm downloading as I type...
Posted: 25th March 2004 16:36
Never mind. It's working now.
I'll give it a try when I get home.
When are you going to finish X-Pressor E? Just wondering.
Posted: 25th March 2004 16:47
wow .. what a cool sound!
the GUI? .. a w e s o m e ! i really it!
Posted: 25th March 2004 17:16
Best Delay I ever tried. Those Backwards sounds are awesome.
Thanks so much!
Posted: 25th March 2004 17:29
Very cool delay! I did have to look at the manual for some things, but it's all clear now I only miss the pan knob. Why so many delay developers decides not to include a simple panning? Well, at least it is not mono... I'll just continue to use Bionic Delay for panning and real ping pong mode, and this one will replace all other delays in my VST folder. It really does sound great!
Posted: 25th March 2004 19:01
Thank you so much. I downloaded this about 15 minutes ago and I am having a lot of fun with it. It sounds great, and I can't believe it's free!
I am playing a koto running through retrodelay on the "stereo filter" preset, and it sounds awesome!
Posted: 25th March 2004 19:03
this is it.
thanks you millions
Posted: 25th March 2004 19:09
I have downloaded tons of free plugins throughout the years and every so often one of them really makes an impression. Well this is one of them.
I really like your Xpressor plugin too.
-edit- retrodelay is really good on the cpu too. I loaded up to 3 instances for a total of 8% CPU. Pentium 4, 2.4ghz, win xp, 512mb ram.
Did I mention I am impressed?
Posted: 25th March 2004 19:15
just gave this a spin using slayer2.....sweeeet, thanks, man. cool skin, btw
Posted: 25th March 2004 20:15
As you might be suffering from some good cheer fatigue right about now, or at least a bit of a sugar rush from all the syrup here flowing, I hesitate to add. But...
PJ, this thing is fantastic. I love effects like this that have their own instrumental quality. Not only a keeper, but likely a mainstay.
Excellent work, and keep it up.
(The delay faeries seem to have been generous today. Have to try out that P1 tapedelay as well.)
Posted: 25th March 2004 20:31
Let me also say that the Ephonic Retro delay is now a favorite plugin. everything about it is quality. Cheers!
Posted: 25th March 2004 21:16
Posted: 25th March 2004 21:31
i loved the demo and now i love this even more. i imagine back to pre vst days and somthing like this must have cost quite a few hundred bucks as hardware. i wonder to think how much the $worth of all the music stuff on my pc would compare to the old hardware days -- $100,000 ?? maybe
anyway thanks for this delay it is a beauty.
Posted: 25th March 2004 23:05
Thanks e this thing is great!
Posted: 25th March 2004 23:20
really good one.
will be in my composing kit from now on !
waka x / makunouchi bento
Posted: 25th March 2004 23:33
Thanks for all the positive feedback!!
The Flash game is here:
Posted: 26th March 2004 00:19
E-phonic...as i said......WOWWOWWOW!!!
the only issue is ....how can i set dotted note delay?
i mean if i want to do a quarter plus an eight?
or 3 quarters etc.?
Posted: 26th March 2004 01:52
Thanx a lot for this nice retro-ish pluggi.
All these nice delay plugins arriving the last days...
Posted: 26th March 2004 02:22
Can you belive it's made with Synthedit ?
Posted: 26th March 2004 02:24
"I've released version 1.0 of the C++ coded version of RetroDelay (the previous demo version was SynthEdit).... and it is totally FREE!
so is C++
Posted: 26th March 2004 02:27
Hmm. It seems to be native VST...
Nice one ephonic!
Posted: 26th March 2004 02:35
no - it's not you dump - the demo was synth-edit though
and there's no real difference - he changed to c++ because of a synth-edit caused preset-saving bug.
Posted: 26th March 2004 02:36
Nope... it's pure C++...
Posted: 26th March 2004 02:48
It's a nice surprise! How did you make the same gui using c++ ?
Posted: 26th March 2004 02:54
I used the VST SDK with VST GUI...
There are a bunch of controls ready to use included.
Posted: 26th March 2004 03:14
Thanks, nice work there!!
Posted: 26th March 2004 03:47
That reverb is SOOOO funky!!! Especially in mono mode!!!
Posted: 26th March 2004 05:17
Btw, i bought ohmforce half a year ago.. do i feel stupid now?
Posted: 26th March 2004 05:20
Posted: 26th March 2004 05:25
looks great; very comprehensive. i wish i could try it right now.
Posted: 26th March 2004 07:33
I just have to jump back in here and say another HUUUUUGE thank you for this
I'm having a ton of fun with it - this could well be my de facto (or even de rigeur ) delay line.
Posted: 26th March 2004 07:56
THANK YOU !
had to use it
its the best delay out there
Posted: 26th March 2004 08:36
Think its official !
Let's have Retro Delay on the stage:
Best Buy Award - Value For Money Diploma - Editor's Choice Award - Viewers Vote for Best GUI 2004 Award - Excellent Product Award - Best C++ adaption from an original SE-vst - Smart Download Award - Winner of the Feature Race - Biggest Pain in the Commercial Dev-butt Award and......Winner of the Most Forum Acclaimed Plugin of The Century Award.
Seriously though. Allround fantastic plugin! Thanks for making it free I will not stop using OhmBoyz cause that one also still rocks, but as said before, you can never have too many delays.
And this one is going straight into top-3!
Posted: 26th March 2004 09:51
DIZZIZ MY NIEUU ADDIKDZIONN
Posted: 26th March 2004 10:14
Thanks for the great delay! This thing is better than a lot of commercial delay plugs I've used.
Posted: 26th March 2004 10:23
yeah, pj, thanx for your "first" plugin!
Yeah, and this one is "real" right? as opposed to what, Drumatic? one of the most widely reputed and used drum synths around? A plugin is something that plugs in. Synth Edit plugins do this, so they would be plug ins.
Posted: 26th March 2004 10:24
Thanks, this is great! It really does have that retro sound! Tons of fun to use, and goes great with the other e-phonic FX. I love it!
Posted: 26th March 2004 10:43
This really is great. Thanx very much. Here I was waiting to buy this... Well, if you decide to make it donation ware, I'm in.
Posted: 26th March 2004 10:49
Strange that people ask for this ... you're defininately not the first one though!
I'll place a "donate" button very soon...
BTW nice dubby track Emerald Tablet
Posted: 26th March 2004 10:53
(If you do feel like adding to what is already a little gem, I too would like to see dotted delay values. If you added stops to the BPM Time knobs in between all the labelled values--halfway between 4 and 8 for example--this would do it.)
Posted: 26th March 2004 10:55
put it up in the cafe and i remove it here because this thread is about your masterpiece
you inspired me
de allergoeiste effektuh bakker
supernifty interface and plug man - echt top
Posted: 26th March 2004 11:24
Ok, i've put up an "donate" button on my site...
Feel free to donate whatever you like
Posted: 26th March 2004 14:27
Great plug e-phonic! I'm a big fan of your LOFI and Drumatic2-plugs so I knew this delay was to be something great. And it is! It's going to be my standard-delay from now on. I've been playing around with it this evening and the only thing I miss about is a real "ping pong"-kinda delay. Maybe it's because I haven't got around exactly how all details works in this plug, but I suspect that true pingpong-delaying is not possible with the current status of Retro Delay. Am I right?
Another detail/bug I was thinking about is that I can hear some kind of tempo-click if I play a sound through RetroDelay with 100 % wet-sound. Does this occur to anyone else?
But other than these issues - it's a supergreat delay plug - one I've really missed on the freeware-market. I also love the "reverse"-mode and - of course - the GUI. You sure know a thing or two about proper design.
PS. This is my first post on the forum. DS.
Posted: 26th March 2004 14:35
well - ive made a (small) start ...
... thanks for all the work pj ...
... its MUCH appreciated
Posted: 26th March 2004 21:11
Awesome..! Fantastic..! Superb..! Terrific..! Even better than wathcing Chelsea beat Man U..!
What more can I say..?
I love this delay..!
One small point. Is there any chance you could release a version with the prestes embedded..? I use Logic, which doesn't load .fxb files. The only workaround is to use Chainer, but that won't allow me to save presets in the Logic format. No big deal though.
Thank's for a wonderfull VST.
Posted: 27th March 2004 00:07
Yes, I'll do that in a future release.
If you set delay time to i.e. 4 and then active Triplets, you should get 3 notes delay.
Its't that what you mean?
BTW: the download is currently down... i exceeded the daily bandwidth.
The download will be back up at 12:00AM PST.
Thanks to all donators who already showed their appreciation!
Posted: 27th March 2004 01:06
Delay-crazy as I am I wrote an experimental piece with I think about 8 different delays.
Retro-Delay is the big winner!
Now I'm off to find that donate button
Posted: 27th March 2004 02:16
First of all, congratulations on a great sounding plugin.
Second; I'm not sure i follow your description on how to achieve dotted delay lengths.
From the manual:
which would give 2.666 beats if you set the dial to '4'.. right?
Posted: 27th March 2004 03:17
Posted: 27th March 2004 03:25
Will this misbelief never die? With the "Load Settings" menu of the VST you can easily load fxp/fxb files.
Posted: 27th March 2004 05:31
"What the hell are you thinking ?!
I demand that this plug-in will be RTAS only!
With a $500 pricetag!
Now every little bedroom producer will sound like a PRO and no one will pay for any overpriced plugs anymore" -Quote from Vicepresident at Digidesign
-edit: This is not a genuine quote, but with free stuff like this, all the big´uns need to watch out!
Great stuff, better than...well any free multifx!
Posted: 27th March 2004 10:43
thank you for the great plugin.
Posted: 27th March 2004 22:32
Problem solved (thank's to Andreas). Logic CAN load .fxb files. It was my mistake - I had the files in the wrong folder.
Posted: 28th March 2004 01:20
Hmm, maybe I should ask again in a more clear way.
1. Can anyone else hear an audible click in the delay - especially if the delay-plug is 100% wet? (the occurance of the click is based on the tempo) I can make an mp3-example, if suggested.
2. Is it possible to create a true stereo ping-pong delay with Retro Delay in its current state? I can't seem to tweak it to do this. Anyone?
Posted: 28th March 2004 03:15
Hmm.. that doesn't occur here... What delay mode is selected... Reversed?
Well, RetroDelay does have cross feedback. That means the left channel feedback goes in the right channel and vice versa.
Some documents i've read call this ping pong.
Posted: 28th March 2004 03:24
definately a real jewel!
cant believe someone finally made it!
thank you very very much!
Posted: 28th March 2004 03:53
It happened on all modes, but I found out what made it occur. I used the sawtooth-waveform on the "delay time lfo" and the depth wheel was risen just a tiny winy bit over 0 - so that occured the "clicky" sound. I'm sorry about the inconvenience.
Well, yes but the desired effect I'm looking for is... well I will try to describe it like this: Think of a mono delay. Say that there are 200 ms between each delay and its decaytime is 2 seconds. And then pretend that each delay is alternately panned hard left vs. hard right. This has been the effect I've always recognized as the "ping pong delay", but I could be wrong.
Unfortunately, I haven't been able to create this effect with Retrodelay, despite effort. To be honest with you, I know too little about how a delay works codewise/behind the scene, but maybe it is solved with if one could enter a predelay-time on one of the channels? In use, the bpm-time/maintime could be equal on both channels but since one of the channels could have a predelay (preferably with half the timelength of the bpm-time) one could achieve the same "ping pong" effect. After all, the word "ping pong" pretty much explains how the effect should sound like.
Once again, thanks for a great delayplug. Your work & design skills are remarkable for a freewareplug.
Posted: 28th March 2004 04:02
Well, in that case you can't create real ping pong... indeed a predelay would fix this 'problem'.
I'll see what i can do in future releases.
Posted: 28th March 2004 06:06
Great, I will sure look forward to it.
Posted: 29th March 2004 04:41
This thang is GREAT!!!! Very infrequent poster here (sorry) but gotta put in my 2 cents. Finding a plug like this gives me the "night before xmas" feeling I had when I was a kid.
Thank you, thank you !!!
Posted: 29th March 2004 04:46
(any word on how to achieve dotted delay times? (see earlier posts).. sorry if i'm missing something. )
Posted: 29th March 2004 05:23
I'm thinking of changing from triplets to dotted...
To really know what my triplets do, just create a track with a straight 4/4 bassdrum. Then set synced time to 4... now switch triplets on...
Posted: 29th March 2004 07:55
no, just make them both available
BIG THANKS for this nice free Delay, BTW
(some presets might ease the lazybones inside me...)
Posted: 29th March 2004 08:49
Is there any chance of adding a "pan" knob somewhere on the master section, in one of the future releases? It should simply pan the delay when in mono mode. Hmm... you would probably also need a button for switching it to mono mode - then only left delay line would be active.
Posted: 29th March 2004 11:26
Well... maybe later.
It's always a pain in the * to change the GUI. Specially when everyting fits like it does now.
Firts i want to fix some issues like not showing up as send fx. (i think i've already fixed that)
Posted: 30th March 2004 10:03
I did a small update to 1.01...
The plugin should now work as send fx.
Posted: 1st April 2004 16:33
This is just about the the best free delay out there. (just about the best free VST plug period). Keep up the good work!
P.S. How about finishing X-Pressor
Posted: 1st April 2004 16:41
Can't you simply use the pan control on the host's channel..? Whether it's an insert effect or a send effect, you should be able to do this.
Posted: 1st April 2004 18:03
It can be done on sends of course, but it would be nice to be able to do it on inserts too, and I don't see how I could do this without dedicated pan control on the delay itself. The channel's default pan control will pan everything, including the dry signal.
Posted: 1st April 2004 18:06
It would be nice for this to have multiple outputs - That way you could send the wet signal and dry signal to seperate channels for further processing if required. That would also allow for inventive panning that other plugins provide.
Imho, E-Phonic shouldn't have to edit the plugin to include panning effects and other stuff, all he needs to do is provide seperate outputs that we could then abuse with our own decor, so to speak.
Posted: 1st April 2004 19:02
Yeah... I see your point.
Posted: 1st April 2004 19:06
There again, that's why a mixer has sends and returns and busses.
IMHO, E-Phonic doesn't need to change the plugin at all.