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AuthorTopic: Elevayta 'FreEq Boy' VST - News!
Space Boy
Posted: 21st June 2004 12:01
‘FreEq Boy’ V1.07 is now available under general release and can be downloaded, for a 14 day fully functional trial, via the link provided by the logo signature at the bottom of this page.

Or download directly from the following Share-it! link:

Click here to download 'FreEq Boy' Demo from Share-it!




’FreEq Boy’ features.

  • Draw EQ curves completely freely using the mouse.
  • Auto save and reload of last EQ curve.
  • See/hear the audio signal conform in real-time.
  • "Continuous band" spectrum analyzer.
  • Capture, save and merge EQ curves from different audio sources.
  • Independent, or linked, left and right channel EQ curves.
  • User variable/high res. FFT convolution engine.
  • Eliminate/Boost specific frequencies with pinpoint precision.
  • Store/retrieve individual EQ curves.
  • Freely adjust display baseline.
  • Freely adjust EQ limits.
  • Frequency/Attenuation display.
  • Clip indication meter.
  • Latency compensated.





Version V1.07 of ‘FreEq Boy’ can be downloaded via the Elevayta site (click the logo/signature below).

Note: ‘FreEq Boy’ V1.07 does not yet utilize the optimized assembler processing and so CPU load is somewhat higher than in V1.08.

Enjoy!
topaz
Posted: 21st June 2004 12:13
no demo ?

also, what is the copy protection ?

Wide Boy wrote:
‘FreEq Boy’ will be made available on general release within the next two weeks (when I have finished writing the instructions for use). At that point, the current offer, to obtain ‘FreEq Boy’ free with a purchased copy of ‘Clone Boy’ or 'Wider Boy Pro’, will cease.



‘FreEq Boy’ has been updated to V1.08 with new processing libraries written in assembler language. The improvement on CPU performance is a factor of two compared to previous versions. Aside from this, a number of additional improvements have been made in line with existing user experience. Existing customers will receive this update free of charge.

A unique feature of ‘FreEq Boy’ is that it allows freehand drawing of EQ curves using the mouse. This can be done simultaneously, for both stereo channels, or independently for each channel. An additional feature is that ‘FreEq Boy’ allows the user to save EQ curves and merge saved EQ curves from different audio sources. In this way it is possible to apply the EQ curve from one audio source onto another.

’FreEq Boy’ features.

  • Draw EQ curves completely freely using the mouse.
  • Auto save and reload of last EQ curve.
  • See/hear the audio signal conform in real-time.
  • "Continuous band" spectrum analyzer.
  • Capture, save and merge EQ curves from different audio sources.
  • Independent, or linked, left and right channel EQ curves.
  • User variable/high res. FFT convolution engine.
  • Eliminate/Boost specific frequencies with pinpoint precision.
  • Store/retrieve individual EQ curves.
  • Freely adjust display baseline.
  • Freely adjust EQ limits.
  • Frequency/Attenuation display.
  • Clip indication meter.
  • Latency compensated.

Improvements all the time and...some new works in progress!



Click the signature below to read more.
Space Boy
Posted: 21st June 2004 12:29
Up to now, 'FreEq Boy' was available (free) only to existing Elevayta customers (old and new). In a few weeks, it will be available to all.

There will be a 14 day fully functional demo. After that the copy protection is unlocked using a license key which is hardware specific. See previous threads on Elevayta products for dicussions on the pros and cons of this.

Bottom line is, if there is another Elevayta product that is interesting to you, and you buy within the next few weeks, 'FreEq Boy' will be available for free. After that time, 'FreEq Boy' will be available only as a seperate item.

If only 'FreEq Boy' is of real interest then I suggest to wait the few weeks until the demo is available.
jens
Posted: 21st June 2004 14:50
up to now I haven't been notified about the update Confused
topaz
Posted: 21st June 2004 14:57
thanks,

but hardware specific protection is no good to me.

it's not the price, it's the hastle involved running back and forth from my studio to install this kind of software.

Sad

Wide Boy wrote:
Up to now, 'FreEq Boy' was available (free) only to existing Elevayta customers (old and new). In a few weeks, it will be available to all.

There will be a 14 day fully functional demo. After that the copy protection is unlocked using a license key which is hardware specific. See previous threads on Elevayta products for dicussions on the pros and cons of this.

Bottom line is, if there is another Elevayta product that is interesting to you, and you buy within the next few weeks, 'FreEq Boy' will be available for free. After that time, 'FreEq Boy' will be available only as a seperate item.

If only 'FreEq Boy' is of real interest then I suggest to wait the few weeks until the demo is available.
Alive In Chernobyl
Posted: 21st June 2004 15:07
Not everyone has studio PC by internet connection. I can not and will not buy this software even if it is good. I cannot install it without great work. After payin money for it I wish to use it without even more work!

Many user feel the same.
IIRs
Posted: 21st June 2004 15:08
Shit! you got me! Laughing

just ordered Wider Boy pro, & I'm tempted by Clone Boy too..

While I'm here, I managed to confuse the tempo sync in Wider Boy by using the tap-tempo function in Tracktion: it showed a tempo of 9999999 (ish) and nothing would shift it short of deleting the plug & inserting a fresh instance. (then it worked fine)
Space Boy
Posted: 21st June 2004 23:18
jens wrote:
up to now I haven't been notified about the update Confused


Once the offer is closed, I will make the new version available to everyone. Existing users will get the update free.

The logistics of distribution are easier this way.
_oswald
Posted: 21st June 2004 23:42
platinumears wrote:
Shit! you got me! Laughing

just ordered Wider Boy pro, & I'm tempted by Clone Boy too..

While I'm here, I managed to confuse the tempo sync in Wider Boy by using the tap-tempo function in Tracktion: it showed a tempo of 9999999 (ish) and nothing would shift it short of deleting the plug & inserting a fresh instance. (then it worked fine)

CloneBoy is fantastic, I suggest you give into your temptation.
Cool
Innominandum
Posted: 21st June 2004 23:47
What is the resolution of the filter?
jens
Posted: 22nd June 2004 01:47
Wide Boy wrote:
jens wrote:
up to now I haven't been notified about the update Confused


Once the offer is closed, I will make the new version available to everyone. Existing users will get the update free.

The logistics of distribution are easier this way.


o.k. - thanks Smile
damstraversaz
Posted: 22nd June 2004 05:06
Great news!
and thanks for the instructions for use Smile
Space Boy
Posted: 22nd June 2004 09:16
Innominandum wrote:
What is the resolution of the filter?


Resolution of the filter is variable between an FFT length from 4096 down to 32. This translates to a frequency bin width of 11 Hz up to 1400 Hz (for a samplerate of 44.1 kHz).

This means that, on the highest setting, there are effectively 2048 frequency bands, each of approx. 11 Hz bandwidth.
Space Boy
Posted: 22nd June 2004 09:28
_oswald wrote:
platinumears wrote:
Shit! you got me! Laughing

just ordered Wider Boy pro, & I'm tempted by Clone Boy too..

While I'm here, I managed to confuse the tempo sync in Wider Boy by using the tap-tempo function in Tracktion: it showed a tempo of 9999999 (ish) and nothing would shift it short of deleting the plug & inserting a fresh instance. (then it worked fine)

CloneBoy is fantastic, I suggest you give into your temptation.
Cool


Thanks _oswald! Very Happy

FYI, I am also currently in the process of updating 'Clone Boy', with a similar conversion to assembler language of some of the processing. This not only makes 'Clone Boy' much less CPU intensive, but it allows to have a higher resolution processing and also to introduce a few more features, like smoothing filters etc. I have also added the possibility to mute the Tx track from within 'Clone Boy' itself.

It's not completely ready just yet, I need to do some more testing and may add a few more features. In any case, it will be a free upgrade for all current users - pretty soon.
topaz
Posted: 22nd June 2004 09:40
is there any more comment on your
C+R protection scheme ?

this really is unsuitable to anyone running a music only PC with no net connection having to run back and forth from there studio.
Sicklecell666
Posted: 22nd June 2004 10:49
topaz wrote:
is there any more comment on your
C+R protection scheme ?

this really is unsuitable to anyone running a music only PC with no net connection having to run back and forth from there studio.


Not to mention challenge/response is kinda overkill on a $12 plug..

That's the kind of thing that crack teams salivate over.
Space Boy
Posted: 22nd June 2004 11:27
sickle666 wrote:
topaz wrote:
is there any more comment on your
C+R protection scheme ?

this really is unsuitable to anyone running a music only PC with no net connection having to run back and forth from there studio.


Not to mention challenge/response is kinda overkill on a $12 plug..

That's the kind of thing that crack teams salivate over.


I only sell my plugs for $12... they are actually worth a lot more.... Wink Maybe I should up the price?

You can check this thread for a more complete answer.

http://www.kvr-vst.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=510072#510072

Basically, I have many user who bought multiple licenses for multiple machines. I keep the price low partly for this reason. In addition, I was able to provide 'FreEq Boy' free to my existing users and they also receive products/product updates that are not available in the public domain (I can only do this because of the internet connection).

Considering that no copy protection scheme is completely safe from crackers, I prefer not to spend too many resources, or waste too much time on it.

What I currently have enables me to best serve my customers. It seems to work well, both for me and for most of my customers - I am not dissatisfied with the response.

As for the salivating crackers - it seems that almost everyone gets some value out of my products Smile
topaz
Posted: 22nd June 2004 11:42
sorry, I don't understand.

you have C+R because the price is low ?

so your saying that if it was double the price there would be no C+R?

it's tuff enough to sell plugins in this saturated market without having C+R.

just because plugins are cheap doesnt mean C+R makes it all ok.

Wide Boy wrote:
sickle666 wrote:
topaz wrote:
is there any more comment on your
C+R protection scheme ?

this really is unsuitable to anyone running a music only PC with no net connection having to run back and forth from there studio.


Not to mention challenge/response is kinda overkill on a $12 plug..

That's the kind of thing that crack teams salivate over.


I only sell my plugs for $12... they are actually worth a lot more.... Wink Maybe I should up the price?

You can check this thread for a more complete answer.

http://www.kvr-vst.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=510072#510072

Basically, I have many user who bought multiple licenses for multiple machines. I keep the price low partly for this reason. In addition, I was able to provide 'FreEq Boy' free to my existing users and they also receive products/product updates that are not available in the public domain (I can only do this because of the internet connection).

Considering that no copy protection scheme is completely safe from crackers, I prefer not to spend too many resources, or waste too much time on it.

What I currently have enables me to best serve my customers. It seems to work well, both for me and for most of my customers - I am not dissatisfied with the response.

As for the salivating crackers - it seems that almost everyone gets some value out of my products Smile
IIRs
Posted: 22nd June 2004 11:45
topaz wrote:
having to run back and forth from there studio.


Is that really so much hassle? compared to (for example) the hassle of finding the extra $$ for a more conventionally priced plug? Wink
topaz
Posted: 22nd June 2004 11:46
when your studio is 15 miles or more away yes.

money is not the issue.

also there is one more issue not mentioned, what happens if the company every goes out of bizz.

your stuck with a plugin you can't use ?

so you still end up having to go and buy
Curve EQ Laughing

crazy stuff.

platinumears wrote:
topaz wrote:
having to run back and forth from there studio.


Is that really so much hassle? compared to (for example) the hassle of finding the extra $$ for a more conventionally priced plug? Wink
Sicklecell666
Posted: 22nd June 2004 12:00
Wide Boy wrote:
As for the salivating crackers - it seems that almost everyone gets some value out of my products Smile


Hey, at least you have a good sense of humor about it Very Happy

Personally, I'm rather sick of challenge/response. I've often purchased plugs I hardly use at all to help enable a developer to work on things I DO want, but having to go through that c/r crap really makes that an irritation.

Install, run, copy, paste, send, wait, wait, wait, recieve, copy, run, paste, & finally, use.

But if you feel this is what works best for you, have at it Smile
Space Boy
Posted: 22nd June 2004 12:00
topaz wrote:
sorry, I don't understand.

you have C+R because the price is low ?

so your saying that if it was double the price there would be no C+R?

it's tuff enough to sell plugins in this saturated market without having C+R.

just because plugins are cheap doesnt mean C+R makes it all ok.

Wide Boy wrote:
sickle666 wrote:
topaz wrote:
is there any more comment on your
C+R protection scheme ?

this really is unsuitable to anyone running a music only PC with no net connection having to run back and forth from there studio.


Not to mention challenge/response is kinda overkill on a $12 plug..

That's the kind of thing that crack teams salivate over.


I only sell my plugs for $12... they are actually worth a lot more.... Wink Maybe I should up the price?

You can check this thread for a more complete answer.

http://www.kvr-vst.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=510072#510072

Basically, I have many user who bought multiple licenses for multiple machines. I keep the price low partly for this reason. In addition, I was able to provide 'FreEq Boy' free to my existing users and they also receive products/product updates that are not available in the public domain (I can only do this because of the internet connection).

Considering that no copy protection scheme is completely safe from crackers, I prefer not to spend too many resources, or waste too much time on it.

What I currently have enables me to best serve my customers. It seems to work well, both for me and for most of my customers - I am not dissatisfied with the response.

As for the salivating crackers - it seems that almost everyone gets some value out of my products Smile


The kind of copy protection I choose to use is a choice I make for reasons which I don't need to describe here. The way I provide my products to the market is also my choice.

I am happy with the copy protection I use. Those that don't have a problem with it buy my products and enjoy them, those that do have a problem with it don't buy my products - I'm fine with that.
topaz
Posted: 22nd June 2004 12:06
that's enough info for me and many
potential customers no doubt.

Confused

Wide Boy wrote:
[those that do have a problem with it don't buy my products - I'm fine with that.
Space Boy
Posted: 22nd June 2004 12:14
sickle666 wrote:
Wide Boy wrote:
As for the salivating crackers - it seems that almost everyone gets some value out of my products Smile


Hey, at least you have a good sense of humor about it Very Happy

Personally, I'm rather sick of challenge/response. I've often purchased plugs I hardly use at all to help enable a developer to work on things I DO want, but having to go through that c/r crap really makes that an irritation.

Install, run, copy, paste, send, wait, wait, wait, recieve, copy, run, paste, & finally, use.

But if you feel this is what works best for you, have at it Smile


I'm not sure my copy protection works exaclty as you say. In my case you copy the plugin to your plugins folder and use it as normal (that's the installation).

When it's time to register, you connect to the site, type in an install code, buy the license with credit card etc. and the key is displayed & emailed almost instantly. Type in the key, reload the plugin and away you go.

Some people had problems typing in the key inside some hosts, but an email to me sorted that out in a very short time.
Sicklecell666
Posted: 22nd June 2004 12:19
To your credit, my c/r simulation is not based on an install of your products.

Also to your credit, I think your attitude is a good one, & I would really like to use some of your stuff, but I have no idea what will happen to the products I use from you when you move on to the next big thing in your career or hobby & I'm left with a dead plug that I can't authorize unless I break the law & use a crack.

Making customers feel slimy about wanting a guarantee for tommorrow is no good in my book.

Salude'
Alive In Chernobyl
Posted: 22nd June 2004 12:22
I see this now. Does the key change if my computer changes? Or is my key good forever? If the key is good forever this is not called C+R. You scare customers calling a simple serial protection by the name C+R. At such low price many only resist before you name protection C+R.

I cannot resist cloneboy if the protection is reasonable!
topaz
Posted: 22nd June 2004 12:24
already stated it's hardware reliant.

so you change your hard-drive. you have a song to finish, the mail server is down, even worse the author stops bizz.

goodnight plugin.


Alive In Chernobyl wrote:
I see this now. Does the key change if my computer changes? Or is my key good forever? If the key is good forever this is not called C+R. You scare customers calling a simple serial protection by the name C+R. At such low price many only resist before you name protection C+R.

I cannot resist cloneboy if the protection is reasonable!
Space Boy
Posted: 22nd June 2004 12:36
Alive In Chernobyl wrote:
I see this now. Does the key change if my computer changes? Or is my key good forever? If the key is good forever this is not called C+R. You scare customers calling a simple serial protection by the name C+R. At such low price many only resist before you name protection C+R.

I cannot resist cloneboy if the protection is reasonable!


I think somebody else called it C+R.

I'm afraid that the key is hardware specific. If the computer changes, the key changes. I have had just a few instances where a customer had computer changes. They emailed me and I mailed them a new key.

If I stop developing then I will endevour to make a fairwell (open) release available to my customers. I cannot promise more than this.

Note that the licensing process requires the buyer to acknowledge that they understand that the license is hardware specific - specifically to avoid misunderstandings.
jens
Posted: 22nd June 2004 12:39
topaz wrote:
that's enough info for me and many
potential customers no doubt.

Confused

Wide Boy wrote:
[those that do have a problem with it don't buy my products - I'm fine with that.


he wrote that it's o.k. for him if you don't buy his products if you don't like his kind of copy-protection and you still try to argue? Confused

(Or to be more exact you try to threaten him with 'many potential customers' who might not buy his products - for the long-time-tracktioneers: Montana and his thirty others - does anyone remember it? Laughing)
topaz
Posted: 22nd June 2004 12:56
hey Jens

i'm not arguing, just making a point that he is losing possible customers by using this kind of hardware tied challange and response protection.

i'm sure im not the only one am I ?


jens wrote:
topaz wrote:
that's enough info for me and many
potential customers no doubt.

Confused

Wide Boy wrote:
[those that do have a problem with it don't buy my products - I'm fine with that.


he wrote that it's o.k. for him if you don't buy his products if you don't like his kind of copy-protection and you still try to argue? Confused

(Or to be more exact you try to threaten him with 'many potential customers' who might not buy his products - for the long-time-tracktioneers: Montana and his thirty others - does anyone remember it? Laughing)
Sicklecell666
Posted: 22nd June 2004 12:57
Wide Boy wrote:
If I stop developing then I will endevour to make a fairwell (open) release available to my customers. I cannot promise more than this.


That's fair enough. Good luck to you!
Sicklecell666
Posted: 22nd June 2004 13:05
Topaz said:

i'm not arguing, just making a point that he is losing possible customers by using this kind of hardware tied challange and response protection.

i'm sure im not the only one am I ?

Nope, you're not alone. But if he released a farewell, I guess you can't complain much. Unless you consider Sudden Death & the like..

Hey, I just had an idea..what if you had a collective insurance policy you offered your user base in the case of accidental death? That way, they could make back thier $12 & enough dough to get some new plugs in the case of your unfortunate & untimely demise..

Very Happy

Ok, I'll shut up now.
Space Boy
Posted: 22nd June 2004 13:19
sickle666 wrote:
Topaz said:

i'm not arguing, just making a point that he is losing possible customers by using this kind of hardware tied challange and response protection.

i'm sure im not the only one am I ?

Nope, you're not alone. But if he released a farewell, I guess you can't complain much. Unless you consider Sudden Death & the like..

Hey, I just had an idea..what if you had a collective insurance policy you offered your user base in the case of accidental death? That way, they could make back thier $12 & enough dough to get some new plugs in the case of your unfortunate & untimely demise..

Very Happy

Ok, I'll shut up now.


Laughing Laughing

Not a bad idea - I'll give it some thought.
Space Boy
Posted: 24th June 2004 23:36
'FreEq Boy' V1.08 has now been distributed to all Elevayta customers.

Please check your email for the download link.
damstraversaz
Posted: 24th June 2004 23:39
thanks a lot
I ll try it tonight. the manual is very good Smile
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