big size photo
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real size
direct download
edit ... on my next post
still some to tweak , but ...
enjoy

great plug idea, shame about the huge ugly GUI, spend some time perfecting this and i might honour you with a download.

dl´ed it, thanks, but what the hell is with that gui?

lucky man I am, I´m not blind yet.



just joking


Stephan

No prob with the gui, I'm heading for a 21-screen anyway...

thanks a lot!

Jazus man, you compensating for a small [______]?!

Cool plug definately, but it can be scaled at least 50%

thanks glad you like guys
fixed version .. there was a problem on the left or right output , now fixed
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shame about the huge ugly GUI

... out of ideas at the moment , but i´ll arrange something

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No prob with the gui, I'm heading for a 21-screen anyway...

... talking serious ?
... a 60 band version ?

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it can be scaled at least 50%

i´ll resize the faders than ... for now just the fixed version ...

First off , many thanks, I have been looking for this for some time. When I insert it as a master effect in Cubase 5.2 I get extreme distortion in the right side of the EQ. Bypassing it solves . THe left channel seems fine. CPU use is very acceptable. Like the gui just smaller if you can get to it; maybe some horizontal lines across each band for relative comparisons . I hope you get this working well. Great work so far!

a smaller version now , with the horizontal and vertical lines for relative comparisons ...
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laterzzz ...

Yes, it is working now in both channels and the lines are helpful.

Two things to make this really useful. Obviously appreciating everything done to this point

It would be good to have an LED indicator for the master gain control like you have on the individual bands. The green is pretty bright, how about a muted red with a little thicker line ( one extra pixel width). I think a flatter fader design with a drop shadow would be more effective and the background black could be texturized. (These are not important but it may look more professional).

Not sure if possible with synth-edit, can the bands respond to a sweeping mouse gesture across the bands with the mouse button in You could then draw a curve with the mouse going back and forth across the interface.

Anyway, if this is as far as you take it, I truly appreciate the plug-in as it is. Great work! -Scotty.

undercore wrote:

Quote: No prob with the gui, I'm heading for a 21-screen anyway... ... talking serious ? ... a 60 band version ?

Wait!!! Might stuck to that 17-screen as the big one is second-hand and might be too old 8to display dark guis like yours...)

undercore wrote:

big size photo http://www.mindflood.net/jo/undercore/31BanEq.JPG real size direct download edit ... on my next post still some to tweak , but ... enjoy

Thank you undercore.

31 bands eh, hmm, sounds like a lot to me. Do i really need all those?

I was quite hapy with BASS/TREBLE on my stereo in 1980, now i just use SOURCE DIRECT.

31 bands of EQ on each channel, plus one on each SEND, one on EACH BUS and one on the MASTER channel. Sounds like an EQ too far for me.


Is it any good?

Kriminal wrote:

31 bands eh, hmm, sounds like a lot to me. Do i really need all those? I was quite hapy with BASS/TREBLE on my stereo in 1980, now i just use SOURCE DIRECT. 31 bands of EQ on each channel, plus one on each SEND, one on EACH BUS and one on the MASTER channel. Sounds like an EQ too far for me. Is it any good?

i was wondering the same thing. i thought 10 band was a lot, but wow!!! guess if you're a tedious tweaker then this things for you.

lates

t-willy

31 bands are often used for modelling a sound and during mastering. when working with hardware i'm still a huge fan of klark tekniks dn-300h on kicks and other drums, it's way easier to get some unordinary results as if using 3-4 bands parametric eq's - you can simply alter the source faster in a drastic way.

undercore:

60 bands? YEAH - GO FOR IT!

ronny

never had the privilege to "play" with a KlarkTekniks , but i´ve heard theire the bests ...

<messing my own thread>
...
i may start getting some inspiration for the next gui

Quote:

60 bands? YEAH - GO FOR IT!

When you move the right side controls the left channel controls don'r respond, but if you move the left channel the right channel does respond.

What a special bug.

forgot to add the "readme" file ...
when link is on , for now , it´s only possible to control with the the first line of faders , the left ones ...

Yeah, they're amazing



^ the bomb

Ronny

<sigh>
.. you making me feel nostalgic ... of an age i never lived ... !!!
... can you tell me one thing from that photo Ronny ?
wich one of the 31 faders is at the zero ?

eh, uhm - i don't know - it's (c) by google, too bad not mine

I think you need to lighten the face; the black is just too much contrast, maybe like an 85% grey would be easier on the eyes.

Also, the sliders 'stick' alot, but I notice many SE creations have that problem. Is it like a graphic update bug or something?

Why do so many SE plugs do that? It's very annoying, & one of the things that hold me back from really enjoying SE work..

I DO like this alot though, keep at it!

thanks Ronny , i would be glad to have one too ...

sickle666 ...
i´ll may start working a new appeareance , but don´t keep counting with it for a near future ...
"Also, the sliders 'stick'..."
"Why do so many SE plugs do that?"
i don´t know , maybes some problem "ununsolvable" ( ...?) for this present , or some already on Jeffs "to do" list ... or even some of mine and other developers "slip" , who couldn´t realise yet of "That" feature that allows users not to commit such mistake ...
...
glad you´re enjoying sickle666 [url][/url]

3rd fixed version
small size only
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fixes
.when in link mode , faders are now fully synced

enjoy btw

thanks dude.

cheers.

for You , anxioustly waitting for the latest version of the 31BandEq breleubeubeu ... here it is
i´m a nice and friendly guy , so don´t complain much
hope you enjoy , have fun and if turns to be usefull on your work i´ll be very glad

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tommorrow then

darkflame23 wrote:

great plug idea, shame about the huge ugly GUI, spend some time perfecting this and i might honour you with a download.

What kind of comment is that? You may honor him? Are you some type of royalty?

Take it or leave it, plain and simple.

sorry dude, was meant to be a joke, shoulda put a smiley there

crazed one thanks the attention
darkflame23 , no smilies needed ... but honestly when i read your post i thought you were talking serious
please don´t get mad you both

about the 31BandEq ... right now , it´s development is pendent

thanks for all guys

undercore wrote:

about the 31BandEq ... right now , it´s development is pendent thanks for all guys

hey, no need for that! I can't think of another plug out there that has that approach. I'd hate to see you abandon the project.

hey Sickle666 , you´ve been allways here , thanks
let me know your requirements for its next version and bout the gui too , i´ll do my best to make them available
thanks again

Thanks for that, undercore . Just downloaded it. Wanted to stay away a bit from KVR for a while (not being tempted to see what's new and sometimes expensive but it seems to be impossible thanks again

Georg

i thank you too Klemperer , hope you enjoy

well i can´t resist ... got my balls on their place again , so here it is the latest version

new in version
.Q work in link mode
.added 1 Lowpass (2k->20000hz) and 1 Highpass (o->500hz) filters to the finals of each chanel
.filters working in link mode too

direct download

now for a pray ...
<blessed avatar>

thanks

thanx undercore

undercore wrote:

direct download

what's a .rar file? I obviously need some other piece of software to unpack this... any advice?

google for,and download winrar
it unpacks rar files

A freeware program called IZArc will also do it, and has handy Explorer integration.

Greg

Hey man, I spent a couple of minutes in photoshop messing with the GUI. It's a bit choppy, but it illustrates what I meant by softening the graphics somewhat. I did this very quicky, so no points for tidiness, but you get my idea. I left one of the two fader rows kinda normal to contrast bewtween the two. I have the photoshop file if you want to see what steps I used, I'll e-mail it to you. Anyways, here's what I did:



One other thing I noticed is the knobs need more fluid movement, but I can't help there

If you have questions about what I did, just private message me.

cheers.

opiadream wrote:

google for,and download winrar it unpacks rar files

thanks...

I remembered WinRar a little bit after I posted, and immediately felt like an idiot

Nice job on the dual 31 Undercore.
Main thing I can see is no seperate main out sliders.

I'm kinda partial to my Ashley GQX-3102 Stereo 31-Band

sickle666 wrote:

Hey man, I spent a couple of minutes in photoshop messing with the GUI. It's a bit choppy, but it illustrates what I meant by softening the graphics somewhat. I did this very quicky, so no points for tidiness, but you get my idea. I left one of the two fader rows kinda normal to contrast bewtween the two. I have the photoshop file if you want to see what steps I used, I'll e-mail it to you. Anyways, here's what I did: One other thing I noticed is the knobs need more fluid movement, but I can't help there If you have questions about what I did, just private message me. cheers.

wohoo, that looks way better than undercores original.
However, instead of a "wooden" background, why not a brushed aluminum to go with those pretty lights.
And insteade of green lines, make them neon blue
and you will have one techno looking EQ!!!!!!!

undercore wrote:

3rd fixed version small size only <linkremoved> fixes .when in link mode , faders are now fully synced

Well done undercore keep it going if you can!

thanks guys
sickle666
uncadave
opia
agincourtdb
Lunch Money
MotuMan
mindless
christianmusicmaker
may i be missing someone ?

... i see there are some new requests

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MotuMan wrote : "... seperate main out sliders ."

on next version than ...

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mindless wrote : "... a brushed aluminum to go with those pretty lights. And insteade of green lines, make them neon blue ..."

seems to be nice idea mindless , consider it done

for now

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sickle666 wrote : "... the knobs need more fluid movement ..."

done , or fixed ... now with 100 frames per knob , instead the 25 on the previous versions

2 different gui versions , both with knobs fix
a sickle666 version

ermm , well this is maybe a bit more darker than what you were expecting hmm , sickle ?
... and still the white boxes to fix ...


and the old version


direct downloads
sickle666 version
old version

... both files in .zip format now
have fun

Great work man, good of you to stick to your guns.

we are thankful for your cont'd work on this.
this thing rocks!

Oh.... need to check this one out!

Kriminal wrote:

I was quite hapy with BASS/TREBLE on my stereo in 1980

Bass & treble? Bass & treble? That's LUXURY that is. You should stick pencils and your ear and be greatfull.

undercore well done mate this is great work.

One request though some presets... or have I missed them?

Actually two...any alternative skins to use? Maybe a dark or lighter blue?

Please keep it up!!!

thanks again guys ...

started on a new gui ...
mindless skin

edit :(link a few posts ahead =)

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MotuMan wrote: " ... seperate main out sliders."

already available on the next version

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christianmusicmaker wrote : One request though some presets... or have I missed them?

ermm ... nop , your not missing anything ... it was me who didn´t added any yet , but i´m planning to do it
let me know what you think about the new gui , or shoot some ideas ... working on its gui its being quite fun
later kvrrrss

ahhhhhhhhh....thats sweet looking!!!!!!


edit: perhaps the blue lines could "glow" a little more...
A lighter blue perhaps?
Also, perhaps the faders could be darker?


great work so far!

Presets will be a great addition, whenever you get around to them. I have to admit, it feels like a lot of work to tweak all those sliders from scratch!

<jeez... I must be the laziest ass ever born>

Greg

undercore wrote:

thanks again guys ... started on a new gui ... mindless skin let me know what you think about the new gui , or shoot some ideas ... working on its gui its being quite fun later kvrrrss

undercore thats great! Even better than I thought it would be!

Just Great!

Now for those presets...

Thanks for all your efforts and well done.

looks good, but the faders need a better seperation from the background. Maybe a darker drop shadow. And the brushed metal could be a bit more brushed; I have a good photshop action for that I can send you if you need it.

cheers

Yes the faders are a bit difficult to see... wow undercore you have small community developing around you already!

wow guys

resuming than ...

- a brighter/glowing blue
... was thinking on iZotopeSpectron kind of Blue ...
http://www.kvr-vst.com/i/b/spectron.jpg


- the faders darker or more "edgier" ...

Quote:

I have a good photshop action for that ...

erm , would you mind to do it sickle , as you did previously with its main skin ? ... i´m a "square" with Photoshop ... too many tools and not enough knowledge !

- and presets ...
i´m shure you all already notest , that when presets are changed all parameters are answering ok but , the "circuit" isn´t ... that´s one of the reasons why presets weren´t added yet too ... this will be the next feature to be fixed

Quote:

wow undercore you have small community developing around you already!

wow , indeed
thanks a lot guys

what I could do if you want to send me the original photoshop file with layers intakt (!) is do a better skin than what I ripped from this thread & you'll have all the layer effects that I used there for you to inspect & I can include the actions that I used for them.

That way, you have a reference to build on for further works of your own. I'm no expert, but I do think I can take it one step further for you. Once you see how someone else does it, it's much easier for you to do on your own.

ciao

PMing sickle

OK so the GUI is a trifle large, but I really
find Graphic EQs useful, so I'm very happy to see
another one.

BUT.... ( you knew that was coming )...

Giving it a quick test, something seems a little
odd.

taking the 20K slider down around half way affects
frequencies down into the 1-3Khz range. Obviously
the bands will overlap but that seems a little
extreme

The Kjaerhus EQ in contrast hardly affects the
1-3Khz range despite being only a 7 band EQ.

Has anyone else noticed this?

GA

where's your Q setting? Isn't that supposed to narrow the bands' frequency? I dunno, I'm no EQ expert

I haven't noticed that, but haven't really used it much either.

didn´t checked it yet ... but , maybe you´re pushing too high its Q ...

... or maybe a small bug
i´ll check it

undercore wrote:

didn´t checked it yet ... but , maybe you´re pushing too high its Q ... ... or maybe a small bug i´ll check it

undercore here is some feedback from Al at the Sonar forum, good interest from many but a few bugs maybe...

I found a weird bug there.. i'm using directixer to wrap it .. i doesn't take much cpu cycles and it plays (almost) well BUT the interface is very slow ..
i got to try cakewalk's adapter to see how it is there .

i said "almost" about how it plays because Sonar becomes much less responsive (and has a delay until playback starts )as soon as i load this plug , again - using directixer .

With the new version the faders are hardly moving (fine resolution now..of 100 steps.. but its very slow ) .. it made the existing problems much worse.. its time to try the other adapter now

it COULD be also a setting in the aud.ini ... maybe . could be anything like "ZeroFillMethod= " or "ExtraPluginBufs=" here .

OTHER plugs work ok.. no problems at 2.9 ms latency .


Update : no problems with the faders now ( using cake's adapter ) but Sonar still gets slow .. i takes too much time ( half a sec ) until it starts playing .
no cpu stress .. its just something with this plugin .

wow , how did the 31BandEq got into SonarForuns ???


thanks christianmusicmaker
i´ll have to check carefully what´s going on , but since i don´t use Sonar nor any vst to directx adapter , i yet don´t have a clue ...

about GiddyAunt report on a probable bug , well , it is working ok here , it may really be related to Q amount ... but let me know if still with problems .

now ...
i removed all previous versions due to a major bug , found that wasn´t mentioned until now ... so here´s a new ( and the only )version at the moment ( several versions will be added , depending on customers needs ) with the "work in progress" mindless skin ... independent main out sliders , already available
faders had already a little graphic tweak too

31BandEqSmV5mindless.zip
enjoy

I tested the 666 version with a analyzer running and found no problems with 20k.
I have encountered no delays in playback using Cakewalks vst adapter either.
It takes a little longer to intialize but other than that all is well here.

Big thanx for the "other" master slider!
Love the updates!

undercore wrote:

wow , how did the 31BandEq got into SonarForuns ???

...lets just say I put in a good word for you... http://www.cakewalk.com/forum/tm.asp?m=175350

Thanks for the updates!!!

Where is the new download? I did this one and the zip file would not open. Now it seems to be gone? I do really thank tou for the EQ Saturdays workrd fine. I seem to be getting to the download late..................JDW

Got it, Thanx! Working good with Directxer so far. Let me get radical with it I'll post back....................JDW

Great work, works perfectly for me.
I'm one of the guys who don't care a lot about colors and layout of plugins, as long as it does what it is suppose to do.

Rony

wow.. that looks good to me 31 bands are a lot and thats what i need i will try it out later this evening...

well there is another thread about removing samplerate artifacts. maybe you could think about a parametric setting at your eq? http://www.kvr-vst.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=50273&sid=8991f012aa6f3d5 f0599c61db0ccf763

hi guys
thanks ... for liking it

so it was really you cmusicmaker , on the SonarForum , thanks !

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bucodi wrotte : I'm one of the guys who don't care a lot about colors and layout of plugins

well , i am one of those that , the most great layout we can have , the better sounding will be ...
trying to work hard on its gui ,and i´m "open" for volunteers

Quote:

PHOBIE wrotte: maybe you could think about a parametric setting

... first it was commented on the possibility of having not 31 but 62 bands ... so i´ve been seriously thinking about it ... but now you´re asking for a perfect 31 bands parametric eq ?
wow , i need to check my availability for the next months ! ...

who´s going to be the funny one next , asking for the 62 bands parametric eq ?
... tho , it would be a Challenge

for now , working the layout , and fixxing it for some presets
thanks again

undercore wrote:

who´s going to be the funny one next , asking for the 62 bands parametric eq ?

Well.. a mind-controlled eq that automagically changes the sound to my liking, would that be possible?

farlukar , i like the autoMagically idea

i´ll se what i can do , but don´t keep counting with it ... i´m allways very occupied

thanks

sorry about the parametric question. I am not a developer and i don´t know how much work such thing takes. I only see frequncy values on top of the ui which i want to change

however i like the functional interface. ther don´t have to be superdupa designeffects. Design has to be clear.. btw: i still prefer atari software over pc-soft sometimes, just because it´s more intuitive.

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sorry about the parametric question.

no worries at all please , i´m open and free for any ideas , keep them coming , that´s what keeps me/us alive ok ?

Quote:

... btw: i still prefer atari software ...

Ohh no , now i´ll have to mke a layout based on the old ataris
great idea PHOBIE ... consider it done !

... next post ...

Quote:

Ohh no , now i´ll have to mke a layout based on the old ataris great idea PHOBIE ... consider it done !

should i do it mono or polychrom ... ?

undercore wrote:

31BandEqSmV5mindless.zip enjoy

Fantastic Work!!!!!!

I guess that it´s the jpeg compression, but knobs are a bit rough around the edges.
Anyways, how about a logo for your plug

something like:

"UNDERcore EQ31s" or something...I don´t know...
Just so u can get your stamp on the plug!

Keep it up

This thing is really starting to shape up undercore! Good job!

thanks mindless

Quote:

knobs are a bit rough around the edges.

... knobs = the worst part

Quote:

This thing is really starting to shape up undercore! Good job!

its indeed true , i´m already beeing contacted by some labels , as Waves ...
nop , this is not true
thanks crazed one

I'll be honest......I liked the "Black Mamba" (black gui) alot better. And,I just gave you a name for it! heh

With your Q-factor.....dont you already have a 62-band parametric?

Keep up the great work!

Well done undercore I have started a 31 band EQ thread on the Project 5 forum as well...
http://www.cakewalk.com/forum/tm.asp?m=177810

MotuMan wrote:

I'll be honest......I liked the "Black Mamba" (black gui) alot better. And,I just gave you a name for it! heh

Hmmm I actually like the silver GUI... Dont forget those presets...undercore...great work!

hi tweakers
thanks a lot for all

so MotuMan a "BlackMamba" skin ?
already in the works

wow christianmusicmaker , Project5 forum too ?
thanks a lot
the presets ...
i´m not finding where the bug is ... frustation
they are stored and are loaded , but only the skin is answering !

for now the current skin version
the knobs are looking a bit better and fat bar graphs

Yeah!!! Keep it going undercore it looks even better!

Is it me or is thing just getting bigger everytime

hey christianmusicmaker ...
comon , don´t be that kind , i get embaressed , besides i couldn´t fix the presets problem

Kriminal i´m not cient of any size changes ... give me your measures and i´ll try to do a version for you ... forget it , if thinking on kvr sig measures on faqs and rules !

undercore wrote:

hey christianmusicmaker ... comon , don´t be that kind , i get embaressed , besides i couldn´t fix the presets problem

The presets would be great but I think the ablility to save our own presets as we use it would be better if it is causing you too much trouble to include presets now.

I am sure if you have come this far already you will be able to also add presets in a later build at some stage .

No worries

undercore wrote:

give me your measures and i´ll try to do a version for you ... forget it , if thinking on kvr sig measures on faqs and rules !

I would also like a bit of a smaller version.

But only if possible without too much work.

Quote:

No worries

thanks christianmusicmaker , still doing my best to solve it ... taking advantage ... i´ll ask you to cross your fingers for me
thanks for all

give me measures rsmus7 , i´ll try to do it

ohhh! the newest skin is awesome!!!
knobs are smooth and faders are cool!

seems like a lot of empty space though...

And as ppl have allready said, it gets better every time!

wow
i´m drunk with all this compliments
...

undercore wrote:

i´m drunk with all this compliments ...

sorry...I stack another compliment...

fat thing. cheers.

r_module thanks
i have strangelly falled asleep ... the eq been stopped all noon , and i´m still sleepy <no avatar for sleepy>
what a noon ... sleeping !

... if i´m turning boring , tip me , with all this updates

want to have the 31bandEq playing nasty ?
now added an OutputLimiter

it´s working for what was thoughted , hope it turns usefull for your needs
download V6

undercore wrote:

... if i´m turning boring , tip me , with all this updates want to have the 31bandEq playing nasty ? now added an OutputLimiter it´s working for what was thoughted , hope it turns usefull for your needs download V6

Thanks...boring? No way!

you´re following me

undercore wrote:

you´re following me

KVR kindly email me when there is a reply to a thread I have an interest in..this certainly qualifies...although having a 1mb ADSL connection helps as well

hmm ... ok !

than there will be an updated version for you to download in around ... 10 minutes

took a little while
V7
the only update , is the "about" box

than , in consequence of several families requests , i decided to upload the 31BanEq with the AtariSkin

31BandEqSmV7_MonoAtariSkin.zip
hope you enjoy

all the links are broken-how can I taste this plug guys???

skank wrote:

all the links are broken-how can I taste this plug guys???

This one should give you the v7 version:
http://www.mindflood.net/jo/undercore/31BandEqSmV7.zip

This thing is really cool, but I seem to get faders and knobs jumping and jittering in the most horrible way? Anyone else experience this? They sure can be used, but their movement is far from smooth.

Thanks for the plug!

Oh, i was too slow. Can someone be so kind to send me the eq in email, please? I've been looking for it for a year. Big thank you.

Bah. I was too slow too.

Oh...

Sascha Franck wrote:

Oh...

Crap! I'm over there arguing about the KVR SE thing and I should be working on my site... Sorry guys. I'm still not ready. I'm dragging my feet for some reason. Hold on, it's going to happen. Really.. It's going to happen.... Soon. Really!

Where can anyone download this plug ?

Where can anyone download this plug ?