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AuthorTopic: Frequency Domain FX
tee boy
Posted: 11th July 2004 17:13
Anyone know of some really good spectral fx for PC? All the ones i try seem pretty shit, with Vertigo probably being the most impressive. I really want to experiment with some things but cant find the software to do it. For example, a friend of mine played me these crazy chime sounds which had be processed in Kyma i think. Anyway, the guy had done a time stretch on the formant only and then pitchshifted it and mixed it with the original. It sound reet proper too!

I want to do crazy shit like that! Unfortunately no kyma, or mac Crying or Very sad

Any recommendations? Can Spectrumworx do that kind of stuff? Or mabe CDP?
whyterabbyt
Posted: 11th July 2004 17:23
Yeah try spectrumworx. Another option would be the Spectral Transformer thats part of Project5, which is actually based on Richard Dobson's/CDP's work

All the CDP is offline, AFAIK, but Wishart's been doing this stuff longer than almost anybody...
dburgan
Posted: 11th July 2004 20:36
Any convolution engine is capable of doing frequency-domain stuff to your signal. The trick is to design the IR to do whatever it is you're looking for. Trial and error is the easiest way to learn some techniques.
tl
Posted: 11th July 2004 23:42
There are some vst plugins by Richard Dobson online:
Pvoc Plugs.
... unfortunately there's no timestretch.

...Mdsp from Smartelectronix made the FFT tools.
Some other spectral plugs can be found here: mp3some.

Can't say much about the sound quality of these plugs,
but they're free.

You could also check out Plogue Bidule.
It's a modular vst host with some serious FFT features...
... you can build yr own effects.
Bram from Smartelectronix has built two impressive examples on the Bidule platform.

tl.
Space Boy
Posted: 12th July 2004 03:19
Did you try 'Clone Boy'?

http://www.kvr-vst.com/get/964.html

It works entirely in the frequency domain and is very easy to use.

For pitchshifting tricks, see

http://www.kvr-vst.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=49379
Aktion
Posted: 13th July 2004 00:18
SpectrumWorx use Richard Dobson's PVOC plug-ins under license.

Now we have SpectrumWorx2 in progress.
Featuring LFO and multibus IO (i got an idea yesterday!)

With that multibus technique you can extract for example formant or dominants, sent it to aux bus, proceed somehow and use as carrier for vocoder or morph or whatever you wanty.
Once i done with core i have 2 paper piles with new effects ideas Smile - mostly based on spectral envelopes.

I still thinking about multisample inputs but one more FFT can destoy your perfomance completely.

Alex
delaydots
VariKusBrainZ
Posted: 13th July 2004 01:15
also check out this thread

too many specs
meister eder
Posted: 13th July 2004 02:42

http://www.soundhack.com/shapers.php

Soarer
Posted: 13th July 2004 04:53
WN DoppelMangler of course. Interesting discussion here. I've thought of posting a topic like this too.
Spectrumworx2 sounds good.

Can anyone tell us more about CDP i.e. the quality and possibilities. Its mostly offline but that gives other possibilities. Its highly recommended by Richard Devine.
Would it be possible to do what tee boy is asking for with the spectrum stretching? Have a look at the Interview with Devine here: http://www.audiohead.net/techtips/mayhemist/

It's not possible to do frequency domain mangling/resynthesis in Reaktor yet is it? Can You build it yourself from the present modules? Rolling Eyes
Aktion
Posted: 13th July 2004 05:00
Richard Devine is our proud customer nowadays
Good - we covered almost everything >B)

You can use Bonnesville's CPS - its have reaktor alike interface and fft inside.

Alex
delaydots.com
Soarer
Posted: 13th July 2004 06:29
Thanks Alex. It looks interesting. Almost like a finished Bidule. I'll have a look at it.

Oh its more like Max/Msp.

I took a look at it and I still find Max/Msp more interesting and thourough. Max/Msp has fft too.
You can get all the fft/spectral mangling you want in these programs but you have to take your time and...Aaaargghhh
VariKusBrainZ
Posted: 14th July 2004 03:51
ABox2 does fft too

http://www.andyware.com/abox2/
Space Boy
Posted: 14th July 2004 05:25
CreepJoint wrote:
ABox2 does fft too

http://www.andyware.com/abox2/


Wow! - What a find - Thanks for this link.
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