Just tried it. Very usable, simple to use, and its VST, so i can record automation (unlike the DX one in Orion) if i want.

I don't suppose it is available to FLS owners?

Kriminal wrote:

Just tried it. Very usable, simple to use, and its VST, so i can record automation (unlike the DX one in Orion) if i want.

you are praising an Imageline product?

morelia wrote:

I don't suppose it is available to FLS owners?

Its free on Computer Music mag this month.

(dont FL user already have this included?)

jens wrote:

you are praising an Imageline product?

Erm, yes...no...its crap

Exactly which issue of Computer Music does this come with? They don't mention this on their website at all.

I'm in the USA, and all the issues arrive a month late here. This coupled with the fact that magazines never seem to actually deliver an issue right at the beginning of the month for which they're named, makes keeping track of the "current issue" a minor nag.


thanks,
McLilith

Issue#76

I must go search out somewhere that sells CM here- usually I just manage to get the odd copy when I fly over for a holiday to Aus etc. There most definitely aren't enough vocoders around.

And although they're sometimes basic, I quite like most of what they give away with CM - I still often go to their sampler for occasions when sfz isn't enough - I figure, why pay through the nose for a flashy sampler that usually just ends up being an overspecced drum machine anyway?

A pity CM isn't a popular mag over here - we can get FM, but I find it's too crinkly and too non-stick to be a good arse-wiper. Whereas CM I'd actually read.

Quote:

(dont FL user already have this included?)

Not the vst

My wife was in London yesterday and the day before...
She arrived yesterday night with this issue...
Didn't try it yet but this vocoder is a nice surprise !

morelia wrote:

Quote: (dont FL user already have this included?) Not the vst

eh? Isn't this Fruity Vocoder with a (not so) different skin?

deSelby wrote:

morelia wrote: Quote: (dont FL user already have this included?) Not the vst eh? Isn't this Fruity Vocoder with a (not so) different skin?

I think he means it's native to FL but not a vst.

Tempest wrote:

deSelby wrote: morelia wrote: Quote: (dont FL user already have this included?) Not the vst eh? Isn't this Fruity Vocoder with a (not so) different skin? I think he means it's native to FL but not a vst.

In CM it´s said: it is the same as the one in FL only difference : the CM vocoder has only 64 bands and the FL has 128.

It is really easy to use via bus send and it sounds great. You can use every sound material you want.

Is there an MP3 audio demo file online somewhere?

it's native to FL

do you have two route to audio signals into this like most vocoders? If so, with my naff host I can't use it

morelia wrote:

it's native to FL

Never been to Florida. Is it nice?

Quote:

do you have two route to audio signals into this like most vocoders?

Yes, but like the mda one it uses the left and right channels so you should be OK. A reasonable vovoder was something I was missing so this seemed like a real bonus.

Steve

deSelby wrote:

morelia wrote: it's native to FL Never been to Florida. Is it nice?

CypherOne wrote:

do you have two route to audio signals into this like most vocoders? If so, with my naff host I can't use it

Yes you route two audio streams together, the carrier and the modulator.
I tried it with a drumloop and a padsound, nice modulation.

btw. wich host do you use?

cubasis...

don´t need to duck,

you make great music, and that is what is important.

maybe you would like to try energyXT it is such a great host and tool.
I´m just starting to explore it and to start to make it my main host/sequenzer.

thanks mate

I do think it's time for a change, I was thinking of upgrading to Cubase SE (next step along etc.), 'cos it's pretty cheap and I like the cubase way of working...

I use Cubase 5.1 along with energyXT.

Still cann´t get myself to buy SX2. It would be pretty cheap as update, but I´m also thinking of tracktion.

But as long as I´m not sure I go with 5.1 and eXT.

I've tried Tracktion twice and deleted very shortly afterwards. looks nice, but complete pile of shit. just my opinion everyone....

Must...

resist...

urge...

to YELL!...


Bah, you're entitled to your own opinions. Just seems like a harsh (and untrue) way of putting it.


Back on topic--

I'm always amazed at the demand and conversation that revolves around vocoders. It's a very simple and distinctive effect, so it makes me boggle that it gets so much attention. Furthermore, it's not basic ENOUGH to be considered a "bread and butter" plug like distortion or Flanging. I don't get it!

Now, don't get me too wrong here-- I'm looking forward to trying out the CM Vocoder if I can ever find issue #76 here (though I imagine it'll be in every new issue afterwards, as per usual), but I'm amazed that they didn't comission something more useful.

Greg

kritikon wrote:

I must go search out somewhere that sells CM here- usually I just manage to get the odd copy when I fly over for a holiday to Aus etc. There most definitely aren't enough vocoders around. And although they're sometimes basic, I quite like most of what they give away with CM - I still often go to their sampler for occasions when sfz isn't enough - I figure, why pay through the nose for a flashy sampler that usually just ends up being an overspecced drum machine anyway? A pity CM isn't a popular mag over here - we can get FM, but I find it's too crinkly and too non-stick to be a good arse-wiper. Whereas CM I'd actually read.

Well, I got my A4000 for about $600 and it´s the most powerfull piece of gear in my studio.
A good sampler is never a bad investment.

Lunch Money wrote:

Now, don't get me too wrong here-- I'm looking forward to trying out the CM Vocoder if I can ever find issue #76 here (though I imagine it'll be in every new issue afterwards, as per usual), but I'm amazed that they didn't comission something more useful.

Like what, contact Antares and commission a special "CM Oughta-Tune" plugin?

Personally, I think the vocoder is a nice item to add to their lineup. I'm sure there will be more things added in the future. Perhaps the next plugin will be more to your liking. For now, a cheap vocoder suits me just fine.

Just for the record, I actually would like to have a cheap auto-tune style plugin. I have some obscure synthesis applications it might help with. Heck, I might even use it on vocals.


later,
McLilith

Heh! Now THAT's the way to deliver a bit of sarcasm and a bit of a barb while maintaining dignity and good humour. Some of the members here could take a note.

Yeah, a cheap auto-tuner would have been way handier than a vocoder. <laff>

Also, commissioning Muon to update DS-404 would be great. To be honest, you might have a point. There aren't a lot of plugin ideas that aren't already well-covered for free by other companies. Of course, I'm not one to argue with more delays and compressors. <chuckle> Still, now that you've got me thinking about it, a Vocoder at least fills in a fairly sparsely occupied niche.

Greg

Lunch Money wrote:

Heh! Now THAT's the way to deliver a bit of sarcasm and a bit of a barb while maintaining dignity and good humour. Some of the members here could take a note.

presuming that's directed at me, yeah whatever like I give a fuck.

CypherOne wrote:

Lunch Money wrote: Heh! Now THAT's the way to deliver a bit of sarcasm and a bit of a barb while maintaining dignity and good humour. Some of the members here could take a note. presuming that's directed at me, yeah whatever like I give a fuck.

What the hell? It wasn't directed at ANYONE in particular. I was just pleased to discover that amidst some of the recent negative energy, there was someone who actually understood how to be a bit sarcastic while maintaining a sense of humour and grace.

I DO consider your post to be ironic to the extreme, though, considering that I don't even know you from Adam and wasn't directing the post at you whatsoever.



I won't take it personally.

oh okay, please accept my apologies, shit day...

Hey! No worries! No apology necessary, though it's certainly appreciated. I know how it is when you think someone's taking a dig, and I certainly know what shit days feel like.

Greg

Quote:

Well, I got my A4000 for about $600 and it´s the most powerfull piece of gear in my studio. A good sampler is never a bad investment.

Yeah, but you can't wipe your arse with an A4000 either. a) the shit would clag up the air vents and it would overheat and blow up. b) the corners would rip yer ring to shreds c) while your doing the business that needs wiping, there's bugger all to read on an A4000 - I refuse to sit there for half an hour reading "attention, do not open cover with unit attached to the mains. CE103576675y7646340445456. No animals injured in testing this product. Output1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 stereo in1 in2 mic midi in midi out midi thru"
I mean....it's not a rivetting read is it?

McLilith wrote:

Just for the record, I actually would like to have a cheap auto-tune style plugin. I have some obscure synthesis applications it might help with. Heck, I might even use it on vocals.

Aren't the Akai plugins ridiculously cheap somewhere right now? You could get PitchRight. I got it for cheap and might just use it to correct my oohs and ahhs before trying to create patches in Cameleon.

Ixox wrote:

My wife was in London yesterday and the day before... She arrived yesterday night with this issue...

Pictures! Your wife's a fox!

I wish they'd commission Rene' to do a zeta lite with maybe 4 oscillators and half everything else with no possibility to install more waveforms but the included.. (but keep the 2x oversampling, a 4-voice chorus, and the dual filters )

I'd also like to see a small beat-slicing tool ala recycle.. I like the way it chops and smooths things off.. then they could release a group of loops to slice on every disk.

actually I think NI could have released the xpress products one at a time for free on CM.. and just released new presets for it on every coverdisk afterwards

and maybeee get refx to release that filterbank plugin with a gui..

but what I'm really waiting for is the Decembuary issue when they have a free Nord Lead 3 Keyboard strapped to each issue of CM.

kritikon wrote:

Quote: Well, I got my A4000 for about $600 and it´s the most powerfull piece of gear in my studio. A good sampler is never a bad investment. Yeah, but you can't wipe your arse with an A4000 either. a) the shit would clag up the air vents and it would overheat and blow up. b) the corners would rip yer ring to shreds c) while your doing the business that needs wiping, there's bugger all to read on an A4000 - I refuse to sit there for half an hour reading "attention, do not open cover with unit attached to the mains. CE103576675y7646340445456. No animals injured in testing this product. Output1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 stereo in1 in2 mic midi in midi out midi thru" I mean....it's not a rivetting read is it?

What???

So you won´t by an instrument if you can´t wipe your ass with it..

strange world indeed!

mindless wrote:

What??? So you won´t by an instrument if you can´t wipe your ass with it.. strange world indeed!

I suppose sandpaper blocks (as used for rhythmic accents) are totally out of the question in tbat case?

Please, let's not even discuss the musical saw.


later,
McLilith