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AuthorTopic: Any free plugins that shows overall RMS and dB peak?
Armadillo
Posted: 7th October 2004 05:52
RMS buddy and Inspector are helpful, but they only show a current RMS value, not the overall for the whole wav file. A peak value would be nice as well.

Maybe I need a Wav editor. Free ones would be preferable.
DevonB
Posted: 7th October 2004 05:57
Isn't there one built in to your host? There is one in Cubase that does exactly that.

Devon
Armadillo
Posted: 7th October 2004 06:00
How do you know I'm using Cubase? Are you spying on me Surprised Laughing

Well, I WAS using cubase SX 1 which correctly, as you say, does have that option. But due to lack of cash, and figuring out I don't need the extra functions (apart from that one Crying or Very sad ) I have downgraded to Cubase SE which....tada doesn't have that option.
DevonB
Posted: 7th October 2004 06:03
Armadillo wrote:
How do you know I'm using Cubase? Are you spying on me Surprised Laughing

Well, I WAS using cubase SX 1 which correctly, as you say, does have that option. But due to lack of cash, and figuring out I don't need the extra functions (apart from that one Crying or Very sad ) I have downgraded to Cubase SE which....tada doesn't have that option.


What did you do with SX 1 then? Wink Or you sold it? Crying or Very sad SE is very capable for writing music, esp for its price though!

Devon
Armadillo
Posted: 7th October 2004 06:07
well, not 100% sold yet, but I got 2 guys who wants to pay £160 for SX. I paid £40 for SE 2nd hand. Very capable.
Aleksey Vaneev
Posted: 7th October 2004 10:39
Voxengo SPAN can help here - it displays an accumulated RMS value, however it can be unconvenient at times as it requires real-time monitoring.
Aktion
Posted: 7th October 2004 23:57
http://destroyfx.smartelectronix.com have RMS buddy plug-in you defenitely want check it Smile
Also, inspector by Elemental Audio maybe do something like that.

I have another question:
http://www.tllabs.com/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=8
Here is nice pro oversampling mastermeter. Im sure it havn't any advantages on PC yet or im mistaken?
Does it really problem have use oversampling meter in home production?
Armadillo
Posted: 8th October 2004 02:34
Aktion wrote:
http://destroyfx.smartelectronix.com have RMS buddy plug-in you defenitely want check it Smile
Also, inspector by Elemental Audio maybe do something like that.

I have another question:
http://www.tllabs.com/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=8
Here is nice pro oversampling mastermeter. Im sure it havn't any advantages on PC yet or im mistaken?
Does it really problem have use oversampling meter in home production?


Man you totally didn't read my post did you?
I already mentioned RMS buddy and Inspector.
And that TL Mastermeter is only for Poor Tools.
But thanks anyway.

Aleksey: I have SPAN, but in order for me to see the accumulated RMS value, I need to run the whole tune in realtime, right? It would be nice with a 3 seconds scan of the wav file to check RMS and peak value, instead of waiting 5 min. til your track has finished playing. Maybe you wanna put that in a future version Wink
Aleksey Vaneev
Posted: 8th October 2004 05:01
Armadillo, I'm not sure why you need to process the whole file? Such information is hardly usable. Checking RMS power of 10-15 second chorus/verse parts is probably much more useful? In either case, SPAN is a plug-in and it just cannot process the audio on its own.
Armadillo
Posted: 8th October 2004 05:19
Yeah, I suppose I could just do that on the loudest parts. I'm just used to the other way Embarassed
Thanks.
nool
Posted: 8th October 2004 05:35
Hmm no one mentioned it, so i'll do it, not freeware, but P.A.S. Spectrum Analyzer pro can do what u wish (i believe). - but its advantage is that its not VST, its standalone, and monitors all sounds ins
Aktion
Posted: 8th October 2004 09:29
[quote="Armadillo]
Man you totally didn't read my post did you?
[/quote]

oops sorry, woke up too early today.
Well, i about that MasterMeter - if it really required, maybe someone could code that?)
Aleksey Vaneev
Posted: 8th October 2004 11:04
If I'm not mistaken, oversampled meters give only an approximation of the 'intersample overs'. Nobody knows what kind of electronics will be used on the actual playback stage (what kind of cutoff filter used, its phase/frequency/step response characteristics), and so while such oversampled meter may show 'no overs' in the actual situation overs may appear.
Aktion
Posted: 9th October 2004 00:24
Yeah i assumed so but if they sell it thats mean somebody is buying it - so it might be important.
Anyway, i like their peak format.

Armadillo, RMS buddy show accumulative RMS value - it have a reset knob, so i think it should done the trick:

I just tested with voice sample in sound forge:
RMS buddy show: -18.52dB
Sound Forge statistics -18.48dB
cbenci
Posted: 10th October 2004 16:08
I think Harbal does something like what you are after.
Armadillo
Posted: 10th October 2004 16:18
Harbal is not a VST plugin and it's not free either Confused

Don't worry, I'll get by using span and RMS buddy.
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