Here is a little preview of our next release for our friends from KvR

http://www.kjaerhusaudio.com/gpp-1.php

/Torben

So this is a track limiter right? Not a final mastering limiter?

Will it be a part of the group buy?

ttoz wrote:

So this is a track limiter right? Not a final mastering limiter?

Yes, It is not for making square waves out of your tracks It’s made to squish a little and making the sound better. Great for sub mixes with drums and bas amongst other things.

pough wrote:

Will it be a part of the group buy?

There won't be sold any other products in the Group buy than GMO-1, GEQ-7 and GCO-1.

Torben

There's something funny about such a serious-looking piece of gear with an option called "PUMPER".

Hey - does the knee make it act a bit like a compressor - ie, reducing gain just a bit, not enough to brickwall the signal?

Forever,




Kim.

Jeez wrote:

There's something funny about such a serious-looking piece of gear with an option called "PUMPER".

Yes the "pumper" is made for modern music and the gold series have a rather conservative look, so I understand your question

Jeez wrote:

Hey - does the knee make it act a bit like a compressor - ie, reducing gain just a bit, not enough to brickwall the signal? Forever, Kim.

The GPP-1 is a mix between a limiter and a compressor with a build in brick wall limiter in the end.

Torben

Torben wrote:

Jeez wrote: There's something funny about such a serious-looking piece of gear with an option called "PUMPER". Yes the "pumper" is made for modern music and the gold series have a rather conservative look, so I understand your question

Really? I thought he was referring to the sexual connotations of the word...

is it fair to assume that this uses a look-ahead or "preview" buffer? if so, can we assume that there is a small latency?

a little while ago, you mentioned the possibility of a "GCO-1 LITE," with minimal controls and preset params. could this be the fruit of that idea? it seems to have all the same envelope shapes, with none of the advanced controls/time constants.

anyway, it looks cool. i hope you sell a bundle of 'em!

== chunk

Torben wrote:

The GPP-1 is a mix between a limiter and a compressor with a build in brick wall limiter in the end. Torben

So, is it similar to PsP Vintage Warmer?
How would you compare the two?

citizenchunk wrote:

is it fair to assume that this uses a look-ahead or "preview" buffer? if so, can we assume that there is a small latency?

Yes, but only 0.5ms which is the time it takes the sound to travel 17cm, so you wont hear any delay.

citizenchunk wrote:

a little while ago, you mentioned the possibility of a "GCO-1 LITE," with minimal controls and preset params. could this be the fruit of that idea?

No, this product has been under developmet for a long time before that. The idea with the GCO-1 Lite would be a normal compressor like the top area of the GCO-1 and maybe the knee and envelope types.

citizenchunk wrote:

it seems to have all the same envelope shapes, with none of the advanced controls/time constants.?

Yes, the envelope types are the same but besides that it's a whole new product and algorithms.

citizenchunk wrote:

anyway, it looks cool. i hope you sell a bundle of 'em! == chunk

Thank you

db wrote:

So, is it similar to PsP Vintage Warmer? How would you compare the two?

The sound is different. The GPP-1 got 5 envelope types with different sound. The VW got build in EQ, which GPP-1 doesn’t. There are lots of other differences but I am not the right one to make the comparisons.

Thanks
Torben

Torben wrote:

db wrote: So, is it similar to PsP Vintage Warmer? How would you compare the two? The sound is different. The GPP-1 got 5 envelope types with different sound. The VW got build in EQ, which GPP-1 doesn’t. There are lots of other differences but I am not the right one to make the comparisons.

I already have VW, but also have Golden Compressor, EQ and GMO. It
seems that I always reach for the Golden vsts.

In fact, I've set up several chains using Energy XT and Chainer so that they are always ready to use. Very seldom use VW
anymore!

Can you say something about the over-compression indicator ? What turns it on, why I would not like the sound or like it (either way) in other words I guess it would indicate over-squishing, is it simply that or other distortion or saturation involved...thanx

kylen wrote:

Can you say something about the over-compression indicator ? What turns it on, why I would not like the sound or like it (either way) in other words I guess it would indicate over-squishing, is it simply that or other distortion or saturation involved...thanx

The O.C. indicator tells if you are compressing the signal below its original RMS level. It's a general rule of thumb not to do that so the indicator can help you with the proper threshold adjustment.

The sound is generally soft and open. You can select between warm or more transparent types. It's not made for getting the highest RMS level like most limiters. We worked on getting the best possible sound in stead of the highest RMS output which is a huge difference between this limiter and most master limiters.


Torben

Yay!!!

Finally it's coming out. I'm very interested to find out how it can handle individual drum sounds and some other source material I'm going to throw at it

I've always had problems with sounds peaking randomly and thus causing distortion. I hope those days are over soon

Aah, me love GPP-1 long time...
Great news Torben !

Torben, have this product been inspired by classic "limiters" like the Fairchild or LA-2a? Can it provide similar subtle nuances? Also, do you have some "warmifier" kind of code under the hood, that is, does it change the frequency and phase of audio in a pleasing way? What I'm trying to pinpoint here is that is this that utopic "wunder machine" that makes everything sound better!? I'm looking forward to trying the demo!

Cheers!
bManic

Ooh GCO-lite would be tasty! Everytime I look at GCO, I keep thinking "Too many controls! Ugh!"

Forever,




Kim.

bmanic wrote:

Torben, have this product been inspired by classic "limiters" like the Fairchild or LA-2a?

Not directly. These are feedback based limiters with obviously no look ahead and the GPP-1 is a based on the feed forward method with less ringing and a little look ahead to make the sound softer.

bmanic wrote:

Can it provide similar subtle nuances?

It can be very subtle.

bmanic wrote:

Also, do you have some "warmifier" kind of code under the hood, that is, does it change the frequency and phase of audio in a pleasing way?

No, the sound is untouched if the input level is below its active compression level (threshold - knee). We added no artificial colours or flavourings

bmanic wrote:

What I'm trying to pinpoint here is that is this that utopic "wunder machine" that makes everything sound better!?

We had good results with the material we tried it on.

bmanic wrote:

I'm looking forward to trying the demo! Cheers! bManic

Thanks
Torben

Torben wrote:

ttoz wrote: So this is a track limiter right? Not a final mastering limiter? Yes, It is not for making square waves out of your tracks It’s made to squish a little and making the sound better. Great for sub mixes with drums and bas amongst other things.

So it's no competition for Kjaerhus Classic Master Limiter or Voxengo Elephant?

cptgone wrote:

Torben wrote: ttoz wrote: So this is a track limiter right? Not a final mastering limiter? Yes, It is not for making square waves out of your tracks It’s made to squish a little and making the sound better. Great for sub mixes with drums and bas amongst other things. So it's no competition for Kjaerhus Classic Master Limiter or Voxengo Elephant?

No, it is two different products.

Torben

xxxxx

Torben wrote:

No, it is two different products. Torben

Thanks for replying, I guess I'll have to stick to the Classic Master Limiter for the time being then.

I'm actually quite interested to know: NOW what's the next golden series plug?

We have the compressor, eq, limiter and modulator. The only things I can think of that fit the pattern are:

- multichannel compressor (or a regular with the sidechain)
- phaser / filter thingy
- delay
- reverb even?
(or maybe even delay + reverb kind of plugin combo!)
- analog distortion unit...?

Or maybe it's something completely different. Who says that Torben has to follow the classic series in any way when creating golden series plugins?

Please, would some kind soul reveal what we can expect next so me (and possibly the others) don't have to chew finger nails any shorter


EDIT: Hmm... just a thought. Does the next plugin actually have to be an effect...? Since Kjaerhus Audio puts out fabulous stuff that are modeled after electrical circuits, wouldn't it be perfectly possible to create a VA-synth that is modelled after true circuits of a synth that was designed only to be created as a virtual version of itself in the end? Correct me if I'm wrong, but if this should happen, it would be the first such VSTi synth on the market which had the close to real analog quality to it Yum! (The Korg Legacy Collection for example was an emulation of real life stuff, not a whole new synth package...) I believe this will be the way synths are programmed in the future.

This looks very nice Torben. I'll give it a try.

I was just curious... Ok, I'll shut up now

Mungo, we are working on some different ideas along with the classic auto-filter plugin. I can't say much more at the moment.

Torben

Hi Torben,

Now that it's been brought up, I've been wondering if you've thought about starting another plugin series?

The Classic series are free, standard effects.

The Golden series are elegant mastering processors.

Maybe the Creative series could be non-standard creative effects, stuff that doesn't yet exist, designed with musicians in mind. Would be like the ElectroHarmonix/Metasonix of plugins.

Just a thought, but I love the way the Golden series plugins work, and would love to see those design ideas extended to creative tools.

Cheers,
Steve

shamann wrote:

Maybe the Creative series could be non-standard creative effects, stuff that doesn't yet exist, designed with musicians in mind.

That piece of the market is getting crowded too: OhmForce, GRM, Audio Ease Nautilus, smartelectronix...
There's some redundancy there already.

Unless Torben has some great new idea up his sleeve of course!

I'd like to buy something Kjaerhus (because I use some of the Classic gear), but I don't need the current Gold Series plugs. A Golden Master Limiter would do perfectly, but I guess most people already have that covered... or don't they?

cptgone wrote:

That piece of the market is getting crowded too: OhmForce, GRM, Audio Ease Nautilus, smartelectronix... There's some redundancy there already.

I suppose, but following that line of thinking, are there VST effect markets that aren't saturated?

I actually think creative effects tend to be under-represented in the market. Think how many EQs exist. Now think how many unclassifiable effects exist.

I would guess PSP Nitro and Spektral Delay could be added could be added to you list, too. But take OhmForce as an example, they develop character effects. Stuff that represents their way of thinking. I don't think they've shut out every one else.

Cheers,
Steve

shamann wrote:

I actually think creative effects tend to be under-represented in the market. Think how many EQs exist. Now think how many unclassifiable effects exist.

I'm with you! I was just saying Kjaerhus Audio would be better off trying something new when taking on that market. Stuff like Doppler FX and granular FX have been done twice already IIRC.

cptgone wrote:

I'm with you! I was just saying Kjaerhus Audio would be better off trying something new when taking on that market. Stuff like Doppler FX and granular FX have been done twice already IIRC.

Hmm, all very true, and I'd guess Synthedit-made FX and other modulars like QuantumFX affect the market too.

I was thinking along the lines of going after the more creative hardware pedal FX market.

I have use for any effect, as long as it's well made and sounds very good I don't care if it's something completely new or some standard effect. I do tend to like stuff with lots of character to them, so if it's possible...

Most effects might be covered already but there is always a marked for classic effects with a new or better sound. All of Kjaerhus Audios algorithms are developed by our self so our plugins will never sound like those made by code writers using algorithms found on the internet or using synthedit.

We have been discussing a creative series with more filter effects etc. and the way the gold series is now with two dynamic processors and an EQ the Golden Modulator might seem a little alone and better placed in another series with other creative effects.

Also we are working on a brand new synthesis technology that will bring you sounds never heard before.

Torben

Torben wrote:

Also we are working on a brand new synthesis technology that will bring you sounds never heard before.

You mean a SYNTH kind of synth?!?! Whoa! This I hardly can wait Yum!

great .

are you saying you'll be entering synth market?

k

Please, god, let it be true

Yes, it will be a new kind of synth.

Torben

Torben wrote:

Yes, it will be a new kind of synth. Torben

Hey Torben! This is great news.

Torben wrote:

Yes, it will be a new kind of synth. Torben

//thud

Groet, Erik

Torben wrote:

Yes, it will be a new kind of synth. Torben

I will buy it!

Hehe, and please make a Classic Synth along the lines of the FX as well, low CPU, great sound and super simple........

OK, I'll stop now............

Torben wrote:

Also we are working on a brand new synthesis technology that will bring you sounds never heard before.

now there's a statement! oops... my credit card just left, slamming the door... i think she's really mad now. ah well, it's me that brings home the bacon, so she'll have to sweat it. bring it on!

tetraplan wrote:

//thud Groet, Erik

If that means something like fainting. I'll second that

tetraplan wrote:

Torben wrote: Yes, it will be a new kind of synth. Torben //thud

Quick! Some quicksalt!

Torben wrote:

Yes, it will be a new kind of synth. Torben

You certainly have my attention. This is something I will keep my eyes peeled for.
Looking forward...

Torben wrote:

Yes, it will be a new kind of synth. Torben

This is fantastic news! Can't wait!

- bManic

bmanic wrote:

This is fantastic news! Can't wait!

You can and will (what else could you do?)

I can bitch and moan about a release date!

.. Torben you lazy geezer! Where's that synth! Been waiting for mon.. hmm, days for it already!

Cheers!
bManic

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just got my attention too

That's quite a claim, but coming for Torben, I know I'm not going to be disappointed. I can hardly wait!
Although a Classic series filter would greatly increase my patience.

it would be cool if it came with a motorised controller robot that looks like Bender and says "Bender's great!"

Plus flameburps when the synth output clips of course.

cptgone wrote:

it would be cool if it came with a motorised controller robot that looks like Bender and says "Bender's great!"

I'd rather have a Daneel-looking robot though.

This may be slightly OT, but I've always had this sneaky feeling that Torben is ex- TC-electronics (the danish FX-gods). It's something about the clearness of the sound, and the gui's too... Am I on to something here...?

nBeat wrote:

I'd rather have a Daneel-looking robot though.

...only if we can agree on what Daneel looks like.

Forever,




Kim.

Jeez wrote:

nBeat wrote: I'd rather have a Daneel-looking robot though. ...only if we can agree on what Daneel looks like.

Yeah, way cooler.

Bumpety bump bump.. any news on this?

Torben wrote:

pough wrote: Will it be a part of the group buy? There won't be sold any other products in the Group buy than GMO-1, GEQ-7 and GCO-1. Torben

What group buy?

PT wrote:

Torben wrote: pough wrote: Will it be a part of the group buy? There won't be sold any other products in the Group buy than GMO-1, GEQ-7 and GCO-1. Torben What group buy?

Sorry mate I'm afraid you missed that one.

bmanic wrote:

Bumpety bump bump.. any news on this?

It was released January 4

Torben

Torben wrote:

It was released January 4

He'll now become angry about the 5 days of not using it )

Sascha Franck wrote:

He'll now become angry about the 5 days of not using it )

More likely, he'll still be looking for information on the synth that Kjaerhus (I just love typing that!) is working on, according to this thread.

It seems like all that weed (grrr jmh!) and beer during the christmas holidays has destroyed what little I had left in the brain..

-bManic