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AuthorTopic: EnergyXT_Tutorial. :)
NicFit
Posted: 29th February 2004 08:45
With the new version coming today, I thought I'd share a tutorial I've been working on.

Tutorial 1
http://members.cox.net/rld23/XT_tutorial_01/XT%20tutorial%2001.htm


Tutorial 2
http://members.cox.net/rld23/XT_tutorial_01/XT%20tutorial%2002.htm


peace,
nF
AD80
Posted: 29th February 2004 08:57
Shit! Good Work NicFit. EXT rocks! Cool
pHz
Posted: 29th February 2004 09:00
nice work nF

slainte Cool rob
drez
Posted: 29th February 2004 09:09
Bless you, NF! I have been struggling with XT as of late (I haven't been keeping up with the updates), and this tutorial is helping me tremendously. Thank you very very much for putting the effort into it, because I'm getting alot out of it Very Happy
AndreasE
Posted: 29th February 2004 09:17
Very good work, thanks very much NicFit Smile Cool
AD80
Posted: 29th February 2004 09:48
Thanks again for the heads up Smile.
pough
Posted: 29th February 2004 10:14
I am SO loving all the latest updates. This sequencer works so well already and it's brand new. Hell, I just finished making a suggestion that jorgen had already implemented. That guy really is only half human...
ModuLR
Posted: 29th February 2004 10:48
I said this over at the xt-hq forums, but that tutorial rocks! and yeah eXT really is developing into something special (really fast!). Another full blown sequencer with great ideas! Seems like it'd be great for performing live as well.. the price is unbeatable too! Love
cold c
Posted: 29th February 2004 11:52
Thanks NicFit, I didn't know multi-out vsts could be used within the sequencer module. I originally only bought it for the arpeggiator but the new features are very nice Very Happy
Shifrin
Posted: 29th February 2004 14:17
Thanks again NicFit, great tutorial - gave me one or two new ideas Smile eXT certainly is one fantastic and extremely versatile piece of software.

Thanks to Jorgen too Very Happy

Shif.
AD80
Posted: 29th February 2004 14:29
Laughing Yeah I guess we should thank Jorgen too. He may have something to do with EXT.
ageis
Posted: 29th February 2004 17:37
1. Thank you for the tutorial. Without it I'd be somewhat lost as to how ext can be a full fledged sequencer.

2. As for world domination, it still has a little ways to go. I had two instruments (EVE, Devine Machine) set up. Inserting Ambience as a send effect brought everything to it's knees, irrespective of how much (or how little) audio I routed to it through the sequencer. I've certainly done a heck of a lot more in various hosts without issue, and I'm not exactly sure how to trace down the problem (other than it seems to be effect related.)

3. The newer skin is very very well done.
wrench45us
Posted: 29th February 2004 17:39
well I hate to put a damper on the enthusiasm, but my vesion of 1.24 doesn't want to display the 'VCR' controls in the sequencer -- just a few black blocks. This in FLStudio and Project 5.

and then mircoTera or Tera 2 both crash standalone or vsts apps in Project 5 -- this doesn't happen in FLStudio.

so I'm not getting far with the tutorial, but someday soon I'm sure.
ageis
Posted: 29th February 2004 20:59
eXT standalone is pretty neat, but I don't think it's quite there. I'm having some odd performance issues that I don't have with the myriad of other hosts I use. I haven't tested ext as a plugin much yet though.

I'll certainly be keeping an eye on this one since it's certainly very different and very neat.
Hypertone
Posted: 29th February 2004 21:58
Is there any way to view your audio and midi track arrangement together?
Muff Wiggler
Posted: 29th February 2004 22:32
wow, huge and very nice tutorial, thanks NicFit! Nice work Very Happy
jorgen
Posted: 1st March 2004 00:52
NicFit, awesome tutorial!!!

wrench45us

Quote:
well I hate to put a damper on the enthusiasm, but my vesion of 1.24 doesn't want to display the 'VCR' controls in the sequencer -- just a few black blocks. This in FLStudio and Project 5.


Make sure you unzip the latest skin file as well. It's inside the same zip file as energyXT. The old skin doesn't have the new transporter buttons.

I'll check out mircoTera or Tera 2.

ageis, let me know if you find out anything about performance issues that I may use to fix it.

Hypertone,

Quote:
Is there any way to view your audio and midi track arrangement together?


The sequencer will have audio tracks in march, hope to have the first beta available next week.

cheers
jorgen
quincy
Posted: 1st March 2004 01:53
In the last few months i've bought an Evolution MK-449C, an Evolution X-Session, FLStudio XXL, and an M-Audio Audiophile. Must have spent about £300-400.

Everyone seems to rave about the EnergyXT thing, so maybe for 39euro i should get with the program and buy the fucker! Very Happy

Just a quicky - can any FLStudio users tell me if this thing works well with it? It sounds like it could inject something extra into my tune-making.
skybax
Posted: 1st March 2004 01:59
hmmm

does EXT have any live performance related features/capabilities?
vurt
Posted: 1st March 2004 02:46
quincy get with the fuckin programme Mad
get your bloody wallet out now you stingy git Mad
you need energyXT Mad its fuckin great now just buy the fuckin thing or ill kick your head in Mad Mad


Laughing seriously,have i lied to you yet?
i think not,just get it from what i remember of our last conversation in a eXT thread it suits your needs well,and this update made it closer in my eyes to what you were after Very Happy

works fine in orion so i cant see any probs in fruity,and i know a lot of people here use it so some of them are bound to be fruity users too Cool

just try the demo,if that runs fine then your in Cool
quincy
Posted: 1st March 2004 02:50
Aye, your a good lad john, you've never let me down. Although i trust your judgment less since you shagged kathy bates!

I just got paid too so no excuse really, i'll give it a spin soon. Smile
vurt
Posted: 1st March 2004 02:57
quincy wrote:


I just got paid too so no excuse really, i'll give it a spin soon. Smile



to be honest even if it was 99euros i would still be pushing you
it is that good a program Cool
quincy
Posted: 1st March 2004 03:09
Stop changing the subject, you shagged kathy bates! Didn't you see her saggy boobs in "about schmidt"?!

Oh hang on, that was me changing the subject Very Happy

Ok i guess i better try this EnergyXT bugger, i am intrigued cos everyone seems to thinks its the most amazing thing.

What cool stuff can i do with it then john? Eh? Eh?
vurt
Posted: 1st March 2004 03:14
too much for me to explain at the moment
but the fact it turns all my vsts in to one big modular synth is what got me hooked Very Happy

nowadays its becoming a host within itself

jorgen deserves big time cred and respect for this Cool
jorgen
Posted: 1st March 2004 04:31
new energyXT forum

http://www.kvr-vst.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=36

Very Happy

thank you Ben/Muse We're not worthy....
spaceman
Posted: 1st March 2004 04:42
if EXT were a synth it would scream like ...


Very Happy
vurt
Posted: 1st March 2004 04:44
spaceman wrote:
if EXT were a synth it would scream like ...


Very Happy



an alien bursting from john hurts abdomen?
spaceman
Posted: 1st March 2004 04:45
vurt wrote:

an alien bursting from john hurts abdomen?


yeah.. close enough
mooter
Posted: 1st March 2004 05:24
It's stable up in here and a fucking delight to have. I still have to make space in my hed for new structures of thinking in what I can do with this thing. Being able to trigger midi patterns with a key is a Godsend. CC map practically everything. Hook up 3 envelopes with 3 different waveforms modulating 3 different cc's, plug in into a couple effects with the envelopes running in some of there cd's as well, add an arpeggiator and chord module if you want. You can trigger different arpeg patterns with a key. Floating windows, a kickass chifrin skin, constant updates, $40, registered in 20 minutes. 3 different versions. Ive used it for a couple months and Im scratching the surface, I cant keep up with update features!
quincy
Posted: 1st March 2004 05:27
I think i'm sold on this one! It sounds like it can do some amazing stuff, and in combination with FLStudio in live mode, and my X-Session, i reckon we could get some very cool progressive live stuff going on. Sweet Cool
wrench45us
Posted: 1st March 2004 06:03
Jorgen,
yes the lack of VCR button icons was completely my fault. I'd become lazy and just copied the dll and exe's into the old, established folders.

I pulled the new default and shifrin gui in and they showed up and I was able to make a little more sense out of things.

The microTera, Tera crashing may be some interaction between Cakewalk(vst/DXi adapter ?) VirSyn and energyXT. They worked fine in FLStudio and now I can't recall if it blew up in standalone or not.

Congratulations on the energyXT forum on kvr. It's about time. And I'll use it next time.
NicFit
Posted: 1st March 2004 06:22
Hope I didn't rub anybody the wrong way with the "World Domination" in the Subject of this thread...I've changed it.

Yes EXT has a ways to go, but it's getting there steadily. What it does REALLY well right now, is integrate into your present working environment, and give you a host of exciting new possibilities.

It's not gonna replace the tools you already paid for and spent countless hours mastering, it's gonna improve them. Smile

Sorry again, but I AM excitied by this thing.

Jorgen is a very responsive developer, and take users request for features seriously, and turn around for bug fixes is excellent.

BTW...I just did a test song with the demos for VirsynTERA2, DevineMachine(multi), EVE, and Ambience. And everything was stable and working...I even had some auatomation thrown in for good measure. The CPU was a bit high, but hovered around 50% on my system...with 10-15% spikes whenever the "beep"(quite annoying) from the DM demo came on.
So maybe the crashes you guys were having are only in the Full versions of these plugins?.

If you get ahold of Jorgen and report a repeatable crash, perhaps he can fix it...It's hard for him to know every bug since he doesn't have every plugin.

enthusiastically,
nF
ageis
Posted: 1st March 2004 07:08
NicFit wrote:

Yes EXT has a ways to go, but it's getting there steadily. What it does REALLY well right now, is integrate into your present working environment, and give you a host of exciting new possibilities.


Agreed. I've owned the massiva stuff for a while now, so I know what Jorgen is capable of. Smile

NicFit wrote:

Sorry again, but I AM excitied by this thing.


No reason to be sorry at all Smile

NicFit wrote:

BTW...I just did a test song with the demos for VirsynTERA2, DevineMachine(multi), EVE, and Ambience. And everything was stable and working...I even had some auatomation thrown in for good measure. The CPU was a bit high, but hovered around 50% on my system...


Out of curiosity, what kind of system are you running?

I have an Athlon XP 2400+, and the spikes I'm getting with the full versions of these programs break up my audio horribly... I'll see if I can't get a grip as to what the issue might be and post to the new newsgroup.
mistertoast
Posted: 1st March 2004 07:25
Is there a "swing" in the sequencer? By that I mean something that changes the internal timing of the beats to...uh...swing. If there is, I'm not seeing it.
NicFit
Posted: 1st March 2004 09:25
ageis wrote:
Out of curiosity, what kind of system are you running?

I have an Athlon XP 2400+, and the spikes I'm getting with the full versions of these programs break up my audio horribly... I'll see if I can't get a grip as to what the issue might be and post to the new newsgroup.


Well I was testing on an AthlonXP 2400 also(512MB, NForce2, MAudioDelta@256samples)... What I found was with DM loaded the usage was considerably higher...but not exactly bringing my system to it's knees.

Idle the system was hovering between 35-45%...and 45-60 when playing, but you can definately see the meter jump 10-15% everytime the demo beep plays in DM.

Here is a pic.
http://members.cox.net/rld23/XT_tutorial_01/1.gif

But as soon as I removed DM the load drops to just under 20%...with TERA, EVE, Ambience, and an AudioPart component.

Here's another pic:
http://members.cox.net/rld23/XT_tutorial_01/2.gif


So now without DM the project is idleing between 15% and 20%
http://members.cox.net/rld23/XT_tutorial_01/3.gif




And jumps to 35-40% when playing.
another pic:
http://members.cox.net/rld23/XT_tutorial_01/4.gif


http://members.cox.net/rld23/XT_tutorial_01/kvrtest.rar
Here is the EXT file so you can try it to see how your system copes. I tried to save the project with DM, but it doesn't load any sounds when it reloads(Demo)...EVE and Tera demos at least load up with a default sound loaded, so I was forced to use default sounds, and just replaced DM with an audio part so there would be a beat(I just used the demos Tutorial1.wav)... Notice you can still change the tempo and the loop follows...You can also see I've automated some Channels and Pan...and even Ambience Time setting. I routed the midi out of the sequencer component to the instruments so Freezing is not possible.


You have to have demos of VirsynTERA, Dash EVE, and Ambience to load the file...(not sure if full versions would work)

And oh yeah...EnergyXT full version of course(Demo doesn't load)



peace,

nF
Shifrin
Posted: 1st March 2004 11:26
mistertoast wrote:
Is there a "swing" in the sequencer? By that I mean something that changes the internal timing of the beats to...uh...swing. If there is, I'm not seeing it.


I'm pretty sure Jorgen is adding user definable groove quantise to all of the eXT midi components Smile

No 'swing' at the moment tho.
Shif.
AD80
Posted: 1st March 2004 11:55
NicFit wrote:
Hope I didn't rub anybody the wrong way with the "World Domination" in the Subject of this thread...I've changed it.

Yes EXT has a ways to go, but it's getting there steadily. What it does REALLY well right now, is integrate into your present working environment, and give you a host of exciting new possibilities.

nF


Hay no need to apologize! You should change the title back to world domination Cool Very Happy .
gizmo
Posted: 1st March 2004 19:36
I'm a little late but great tutorial NicFit, wow. Have been awaiting the XT update... Your enthusiasm is COMPLETELY UNDERSTANDABLE, this is already loads of fun and it hasn't even started.
NicFit
Posted: 2nd March 2004 16:16
Ok I made another small tutorial on automation workarounds.

http://members.cox.net/rld23/XT_tutorial_01/XT%20tutorial%2002.htm

peace,
nF
mooter
Posted: 2nd March 2004 19:17
word
Deed
Posted: 3rd March 2004 01:04
NicFit, your tutorial is so fine, I finally began to understand all this hype around EnergyXT !
But it seems your last tutorial about automation is not working properly, there is broken links instead of pictures Crying or Very sad
NicFit
Posted: 3rd March 2004 02:31
Yes thank you Deeds!...the links to the pictures were screwed up. I think it's fixed now. Embarassed

nF
Rozzer
Posted: 3rd March 2004 02:39
Just wanted to say Thanks NicFit Very Happy

I haven't had a chance to read through the tutorials yet. I've been away for 3 weeks and am trying desparately to get rid of this backlog of work that's built up. However, one of the first things to do is go through your tutorial....

Nice one Very Happy
Mighty_Hero
Posted: 3rd March 2004 07:59
NicFit. I am in Tulsa as well, and would really like to hook up sometime!
NicFit
Posted: 3rd March 2004 08:16
Mighty_Hero wrote:
NicFit. I am in Tulsa as well, and would really like to hook up sometime!


Hey Brice that would be great. Drop me an email sometime, if you don't mind hanging around a fat old hippy who chain smokes...and listens only to 80's musik, and thinks everything else is shit(present company excluded) Wink

nF
Mighty_Hero
Posted: 3rd March 2004 08:28
Laughing
no, I think it would be cool. It is VERY very hard to find folks here, who use vst's and actually know what they are talking about (I checked out your tutorials and other posts you have made Cool )

You live in South side? I'll drop you some mail Wink
NicFit
Posted: 3rd March 2004 08:41
Mighty_Hero wrote:
Laughing
no, I think it would be cool. It is VERY very hard to find folks here, who use vst's and actually know what they are talking about (I checked out your tutorials and other posts you have made Cool )

You live in South side? I'll drop you some mail Wink


Yeah I'm a computer guy too, so I try to tell my musician friends about getting into computers, they are afraid of mice I think. And I'm so far south some folks call it Bixby Laughing

nF
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