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AuthorTopic: Envelopes
xian
Posted: 3rd April 2004 11:16
Is there a way to trigger an evelope module with the trigger note being passed through? For example, I have the main in connected to an envelope module. The envelope is connected to a vsti. I want to trigger the envelope and do so by pressing a key on my midi keyboard. The envelope gets triggered, but the midi note is also passed to the vsti and it plays a note. I just want to trigger the envelope. Is that possible?
plastique
Posted: 3rd April 2004 11:51
yes , if you set the receiving midi channel of the vsti to something else than the midi channel you are using to trigger the envelope .
xian
Posted: 3rd April 2004 12:00
So is the envelope module set to recieve on all midi channels? Is there a way to set which midi channels it recieves? Actually, now that look, I don't see a way to set this on many of the native modules. Oh well, that solves my problem. Thanks.
plastique
Posted: 3rd April 2004 12:06
the envelope receives and sends on all midi channels , that's why this workaround is possible .
more beautiful would be surely if the midi signal could be split before going into the envelope and sending one half into the envelope , the other to the vsti .. or something like that Wink
or like you said , if there were also midi channel settings for the native comps.
xian
Posted: 3rd April 2004 12:24
Yeah. It seems odd that the moddule would sum and pass the midi generated by the module itself and the input to the module. If you want to use the input to the module downstream, you can get it from the original source (e.g. master in, sequencer modules, etc.). Combining the two automatically seems redundant.
jorgen
Posted: 3rd April 2004 12:47
I'll make a midi thru on/off option


jorgen
xian
Posted: 3rd April 2004 13:16
That's probably the best solution. I think the midi-channel-recieve on could also be useful in various situations, but a thru switch is probably more useful generally.
NicFit
Posted: 3rd April 2004 14:01
Have you tried using thr "Midi chs" component routed before your envelope to limit it's recieve channel? Also you can put a "Midi Patcher" component between your envelope and vst, and use it to filter out the notes, so only CC data is passed from the envelope component. A Midi thru ON/OFF option would be cool though Wink

nF
xian
Posted: 3rd April 2004 15:10
>Also you can put a "Midi Patcher" component between
>your envelope and vst, and use it to filter out the notes

I actually have no idea how to use the midi patcher. Could you give an example of how to do this?

>Have you tried using thr "Midi chs" component routed
>before your envelope to limit it's recieve channel?

Good point. That brings me to a second observation. I can't seem to figure out how to assign midi channels to tracks in the sequencer module. It seems that each track is transmitting in omni mode. But that's ok. You can just put a midi chs module downstream of each sequencer midi output to 'assign' each output to a different channel. As long as your tracks are sent to different outputs, it works the same.

Man I love this program.
NicFit
Posted: 3rd April 2004 17:44
xian wrote:
>Also you can put a "Midi Patcher" component between
>your envelope and vst, and use it to filter out the notes

I actually have no idea how to use the midi patcher. Could you give an example of how to do this?

>Have you tried using thr "Midi chs" component routed
>before your envelope to limit it's recieve channel?

Good point. That brings me to a second observation. I can't seem to figure out how to assign midi channels to tracks in the sequencer module. It seems that each track is transmitting in omni mode. But that's ok. You can just put a midi chs module downstream of each sequencer midi output to 'assign' each output to a different channel. As long as your tracks are sent to different outputs, it works the same.

Man I love this program.


For help with the "Midi Patcher" component read HERE

You can set each tracks midi channel in the sequencer here:

NicFit
Posted: 3rd April 2004 17:45
Quote:
Man I love this program.


me too!
xian
Posted: 3rd April 2004 22:29
Very cool. The fact that the 'Track' info in the left pane of the sequencer is context sensitive (depending on which track you have selected) was not intuitive. It seems like there could be all sorts of info over there (e.g. midi port, etc). Midi patcher looks good too. I knew that's essentially what it did, but I hadn't taken the time to explore it.
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