Just got FL Studio 4.5.1 but Orion Plat 5.1 is not showing up as a Rewire client and FL Studio is not showing up in Orion as a client.I've been up all night and am bone friggin tired so I'm probably missing something really simple but just in case has anyone else encountered this? I've checked the FL forums but havn't seen this addressed yet-may be too soon since the masses have the latest FL version.I did check Yes to install FL as a rewire client during install,tried moving the rewire.dll to the windows system 32 folder,rebooted,no luck.I'm going to bed now,maybe tommorow I'll be thinking more clearly.I'll check back to see if anyone else has this problem.........

when I first installed flstudio, nothing having to do with rewire worked
no outputs in cubaase or acid or orion.
after I reinstalled cubase acid and orion, everything worked fine.
well, I haven't tried rewire between fruity and orion yet.
but there's certainly something funky

Teksonik wrote:

Just got FL Studio 4.5.1 but Orion Plat 5.1 is not showing up as a Rewire client and FL Studio is not showing up in Orion as a client.I've been up all night and am bone friggin tired so I'm probably missing something really simple but just in case has anyone else encountered this? I've checked the FL forums but havn't seen this addressed yet-may be too soon since the masses have the latest FL version.I did check Yes to install FL as a rewire client during install,tried moving the rewire.dll to the windows system 32 folder,rebooted,no luck.I'm going to bed now,maybe tommorow I'll be thinking more clearly.I'll check back to see if anyone else has this problem.........

Unfortunately, after you've figured that out, it won't matter anyway because there are problems in both directions. With FL as host, Orion plays with a lot of noise and static. This has been reported by a few users so far. With Orion as host, somehow, there's no way to call up FL's interface. After you load up FL as client, you'll see the Fruity interface. Once you close it and go back to Orion, there's no way of getting back to FL's interface again. In Cubase, there's a little window with a fruit on it. Click the Fruit and it takes you back to FL. That fruit is missing from Orion and nothing will get you back to FL.

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. Once you close it and go back to Orion, there's no way of getting back to FL's interface again. In Cubase, there's a little window with a fruit on it. Click the Fruit and it takes you back to FL. That fruit is missing from Orion and nothing will get you back to FL.

good grief you're right
not that I doubted you, but I had to see for myself!
that's almost funny.
ok, it is funny

LOL. I wouldn't kid you. I told Rich about it, but he didn't respond. I also mentioned it over at the FL forums, but I haven't heard anything from that camp either. I don't know which one's to blame because they both work (more or less) when being hosted by either Sonar or Cubase.

edit (wrong). btw, my ableton live doesn't show up in
fruity as client, but fruity as client in Live.

If Orion doesn't provide a "show interface" button for Rewire clients - then simply run FL.exe right after you insert FL into Orion as a rewire slave. It will create that window just like in Cubase.

Orion not functioning properly as a slave - address this with Rich.

Mirabebe wrote:

If Orion doesn't provide a "show interface" button for Rewire clients - then simply run FL.exe right after you insert FL into Orion as a rewire slave. It will create that window just like in Cubase.

It sounded like a good idea, but it doesn't work. I just tried it. I started up Orion, then I loaded FL the regular way and Orion was not aware of it at all. No mixer channels in Orion for FL. I then attempted to launch FL as a rewire client from Orion's menu. Orion created a separate FL, unrelated to the one which was already running. The Fruit window still didn't show up. No Dice.

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Orion not functioning properly as a slave - address this with Rich.

It's been addressed with him. Right when Orion 5 came out.

You first load FL as a slave, and after that load FL.exe - it will detect that FL is already slaved to Otion - and start in special mode.

I know absolutely nothing about rewiring so could you tell me what other benefits i would have from running fruity as a slave to orion as opposed to opening it as a vst in orion.

opiadream wrote:

I know absolutely nothing about rewiring so could you tell me what other benefits i would have from running fruity as a slave to orion as opposed to opening it as a vst in orion.

at the moment, opia, I can't think of any benefit.

It was created solely to please FL users who also use Reason.

that makes a little more sense

Mirabebe wrote:

It was created solely to please FL users who also use Reason.

I don't have reason, so I reckon that's why it didn't occur to me.

I think I slightly prefer rewiring fl studio to cubase instead of loading it up as a vsti, just because i don't need to bother with the "time offset" value in the vsti which I always found kinda annoying. Besides that, I can't think of any other advantage from taking the rewire route.

uh oh, fuity rewired to acid 4.0 is fucked up as well. everything locked up while I was trying to load up a synth. Tried to use taskmanager to get out of it and it kicked into a reboot.

If you are trying to do this after messing with rewire unsuccesfully - your system is already unstable (i had a similar crash after messing with Orion's rewire). Restart your PC and try FL with Acid - works well here, no problems at all.

Edit: Just found a bug. Don't start FL.exe with Acid - instead use the little button in Acid to bring up the panel.

Mirabebe wrote:

You first load FL as a slave, and after that load FL.exe - it will detect that FL is already slaved to Otion - and start in special mode.

That worked. But why does it interact differently with Orion than with other hosts? I would have never figured it out. So is there any special setup with getting Orion to slave to FL? Currently, it's making a lot of noise during playback. As if Orion's running through a distortion plugin.

That worked. But why does it interact differently with Orion than with other hosts?

I don't use Orion, so i can't tell for sure if there's a button to show Rewire Panel app, but likely Orion doesn't implement optional part of the SDK. I remember there was another app that did it similarly but the name escapes me.

As for Orion slave producing distorted sound (which becomes less distorted if you change PPQ in Orion) - i reported it back in early beta and Frederic contacted Rich. Thats all i know and can't really tell you whos side it is on.

Thanks for the replies guys.All I really want rewire for is to use Orion's fantastic generators with FL Studio's excellent sequencer.Not that big of a deal I guess.Maybe I should just go back to begging for vsti versions of Ultran ans Wasp XT.

hey Tek, if you get Wasp from Image-Line, it's planned to be updated to WaspXT at some point soon from what I hear.

TeeLangSun wrote:

Currently, it's making a lot of noise during playback. As if Orion's running through a distortion plugin.

You sure its not a buffer problem?

ok, I've got fl working with acid. a little different step to getting there, but it gets there.
thanks for the tip.