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KVR Forum [Hosts (Sequencers, DAWs, Audio Editors, etc.)] » Archive » Hosts (Sequencers, DAWs, Audio Editors, etc.) » January 2004 Index | KVRFA7
AuthorTopic: Dreamer : new VST host !!!
Deed
Posted: 14th January 2004 02:48
I don't think anybody here talk about this before : a reason clone that is now also a VST host ! Here is the web site :
http://www.ultrano.com/

It is cheap (49$) and it is bulgarian. There is only one developer behind this product ... I was able to load some VSTi but that's all because I'm currently at work Wink At first sight, Dreamer seems to be only an horrible clone of Reason, but it is a VST host, it is cheap and from the developer it doesn't need a very powerful CPU.
crazed one
Posted: 14th January 2004 03:09
I've heard of this before. This looks like a lawsuit waiting to happen though. Confused
CreepJoint
Posted: 15th January 2004 10:14
Yeah, some KVRs got pretty sweaty about this a couple of months back as it looked like a reason rip off, right down to the bitmaps. Anyway, Im gonna have another looky now that it hosts vsts
soma
Posted: 15th January 2004 12:43
Man if reason had vst support and audio tracks it would be my dream! Doesn't have the same flexibility with sequencing or routing. Routing being Reason's biggest strength.
ttoz
Posted: 17th January 2004 02:06
CreepJoint wrote:
Yeah, some KVRs got pretty sweaty about this a couple of months back


why, becasue they paid so much for reason?? Laughing
juanito
Posted: 17th January 2004 02:18
(off the site)
"Dreamer makes use of video accelerration, so that you can use all of your cpu for DSP."

Shit!

Is this guy truly the first to make use of the cpu off the Graphics processor??? Or am I reading this wrong?

- Juanito
gruberman
Posted: 17th January 2004 03:09
Yes, there's no DSP going on with the GPU.
AndreasE
Posted: 22nd January 2004 03:33
Does anyone have already tested Dreamer (now, that it is announced here in the News)?
bluedad
Posted: 22nd January 2004 04:01
AndreasEhrhardt wrote:
Does anyone have already tested Dreamer (now, that it is announced here in the News)?

I noticed over at their forum, spoonboiler (kyros) has posted part of a song. maybe he'll pop in here and let us know.
Phaedo
Posted: 22nd January 2004 04:07
Awww. They've taken the old Logical demo down. Anyone still got it?
jens
Posted: 22nd January 2004 12:17
Quote:
Awww. They've taken the old Logical demo down. Anyone still got it?


maybe because some KVRians were rather disrespectful
about this wonderful piece of art Sad

















HiHi
mauseoleum
Posted: 22nd January 2004 13:05
curious - how does this cpu/gpu approach work?
Ian B
Posted: 22nd January 2004 23:47
AndreasEhrhardt wrote:
Does anyone have already tested Dreamer (now, that it is announced here in the News)?
I was curious and tried the demo a few days back, it looked pretty but thats about as much in it's favour I can say. It played the default demo tune ok but each time I tried to do something 'new' it slowed to a crawl, eventually freezing my pc altogether Confused (P4, 2.0, 1gb ram, XP Home, Audiophile 2496) I didn't really spend much time trying to figure out why and uninstalled it Embarassed I doubt I'll be trying it again anytime soon.....
ttoz
Posted: 25th January 2004 20:45
Ian B wrote:
AndreasEhrhardt wrote:
Does anyone have already tested Dreamer (now, that it is announced here in the News)?
I was curious and tried the demo a few days back, it looked pretty but thats about as much in it's favour I can say. It played the default demo tune ok but each time I tried to do something 'new' it slowed to a crawl, eventually freezing my pc altogether Confused (P4, 2.0, 1gb ram, XP Home, Audiophile 2496) I didn't really spend much time trying to figure out why and uninstalled it Embarassed I doubt I'll be trying it again anytime soon.....


maybe you were having a denormal issue with a plugin and thecpu was choking? Confused
Jeez
Posted: 25th January 2004 20:55
Juanito wrote:
(off the site)
"Dreamer makes use of video accelerration, so that you can use all of your cpu for DSP."

Shit!

Is this guy truly the first to make use of the cpu off the Graphics processor??? Or am I reading this wrong?

- Juanito


From reading your quote, it sounds like Dreamer uses the graphics hardware to render the display, so there's more CPU time available for audio processing.

Forever,




Kim.
andywanders
Posted: 25th January 2004 21:05
AndreasEhrhardt wrote:
Does anyone have already tested Dreamer (now, that it is announced here in the News)?


Curiosity got me last weekend and I tried it. My P4 2.4ghz didn't like it at all. Though it played the demo okay, playing it from a keyboard was immpossible - notes hung, sounded late, broke up, distorted. This was using the on-board synth and sampler. Also, the samples are s*#t..! Very noisy.

Tried a VSTi with it and that sounded okay, but still didn't respond properly to the MIDI keyboard.

Couldn't select an audio driver, and couldn't get the latency below 11ms (I usually set it to 7ms with Logic).

Epilogue: Un-installed after approx 1 hour. Back to Reason and Logic again (Hmm.. Just realised, Reason & Logic sound good together..)
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