so this has been beaten into the ground already I know. I love LIVE and want to buy it tomorrow, but no AU or AUI support. Though my arsenal consists of a handful of free or sub $100 AU's, I really want to integrate them with reason and multitracking. I played with tracktion..not bad, no mixer and no AU. Intuem really got me excited but I couldn't get the thing to mske a sound, support is nill. Metro, I just discovered...I am dl'ing the demo now..i guess we shall see....

I have become aware of possible ways of using AUI's with LIVE....but has anyone done it and had it work and/or is doing it regularly? (running OSX)

sorry and thanks!

maybe you'd like to have a look at numerology
http://www.five12.com/numerology.html[/url]

Numerology is perfect with live. The way numerology is constructed fits Live perfectly. You can use it in a similar way to the session view in live. That is you set up a lot of seqences in different groups/tracks, and then you trigger them. Numerology seems a bit complex to set up at first, but if you read the manual and work with it for a while it is not that difficult. Numerology is a modular sequencer, and if you are familiar with reason, that metaphor is easy to grasp. For example, you create a gate sequence, route that to a matrix sequence, route that to a au instrument followed by a few au effects, and then you have a Group/track. program a sequence thats sounds good, take a preset snapshot, program another one, snapshot that. After a while you have a number of sequences that you can switch between like in the session view. To get this into live you can use soundflower from cycling74, jack from www.jackosx.com or wormhole vst/au. You can even have a second computer running the vsti or au instrument and route that into live with wormhole. (if you can get midisync to work between the two machines) My regular setup now is (a) live being fed by logic via soundflower, synced with midiclock (2) live being fed by numerology via jack or soundflower.

Numerology is certainly interesting, but it really is more an excercise in programming than actually playing instruments... If you use a midi keyboard to input notes, Numerology would be like converting the whole process to numbers and cc values... interesting, but not very "musical." I have Numerology, annd I've done some interesting beats with it, but I prefer to actually "play" what I hear in my head, rather than program it... and I'm not really a keyboard player... Tracktion needs AU support, and Live would kill everything if they added AU and VST support with live input, for sure... Reason is a great app, but I think it definately has some audio engine/sound quality issues.... On the Mac, Reason and Live are it for stability, and reasonable cpu usage... Beyond that it's serious cpu, (Logic) lack of support/stability (Tracktion), ie. can you say: G5??? which is sort of ridiculous considering most PC DAW apps will run very well on an average P4 machine, but THAT'S as the say... the way it is!!