I haven't heard it yet, but Junglist looks an awful lot like Scorpion 3, only without the upgrade path.

So Scorpion owners now have to buy Junglist at $59, rather than pay a smaller Scorpion upgrade price.

Is this true, or am I reading too much into it?

Richy has been boiling a frog since he released OrionPro!!!

Here's reply from Richard "boiling-like-a-frog" Hoffman :

Junglist "has a completely different engine (to Scorpion). We just
left some controls at the same place for convenience.

Maybe we'll extent the Scorpion in a similar way, while
maintaining its unique sound - depends on how much people
like the Junglist. Of course that update would be free, even
if the price increases to $59 there too."

Thanks. Nice to know

I can verify that JUNGLIST is indeed a very different beast to SCORPION. It has a much harder edge to it and is capable of some very DXish type sounds as well as the ANALogue stuff that you would expect. I've actually used it in place of some QuadraSID patches that i just couldn't get to do what i wanted them to. It took only a few minutes of tweaking to get JUNGLIST roaring in QS's place.

Is Junglist going to be incorporated as part of the Orion Platinum release?

Yeah, just what exactly will be in the Orion Platinun release and how much will it be.

What synths?

What effects?

I'd love to know, I am really looking forward to it, and is there a demo or some details/screenshots of the Ultran.....?

Full respect to Sonic Syndicate, but you don't need Junglist to create jungle or drum n' bass basses. All you need is a sawtooth wave (any VSTi synth will do) into a combination of distortion->phase-shifter->compression. The key here is to go overboard with the effects: full distortion, full phase shift, heavy compression (high ratio + high output + low treshold). Now go and wake up the neighbourhood!

Junglist sounds good 'tho...

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"Yeah, just what exactly will be in the Orion Platinun release and how much will it be. "

I don't know about price but i can tell you what will be in it:

ORION 2.7 or whatever the current version is by then

SCORPION V1.5

Master section for the MIXER with Mixer Strips for each Send Effect as well as access to the Master Effects.

ULTRAN Wave Morphing Sampler. A new generator that is the best softsynth i have ever used. Put simply, it is a 4-osc cross between a wavetable synth and a sampler [kinda like a KORG WaveStation] with one of the best filters around.

Around 600Mb of high-quality soundfonts, drum samples, presets, etc

I would say that it is still several weeks away as there is still a bit of work to be done on the samples [but don't quote me].

Hey bones will the new orion have db meters for all the channels in the mixer for monitoring?,currently there is no accurate way of monitoring the channels in orion,so are they planning to add db meters?
thanks.

As it is not possible to overdrive an individual channel in ORION there is absolutely no reason at all to meter each channel. It would just make teh MIXER even more impossibly huge than it is now and would sserve no purpose.