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KVR Forum [Instruments] » Archive » Instruments » October 2001 Index | KVRFA1
AuthorTopic: LM-4 Mark II ?
tesla
Posted: 19th October 2001 15:18
Hi,

I was very suprised browsing at the Thomann (http://www.thomann.de/) website (sorry for German):

150550 STEINBERG - LM-4 Mark II
STEINBERG LM-4 Mark II Drummodul für VST mit absoluten sample-genauem Timing; wird als PlugIn geladen und von Midi-Spurenangesteuert, 6 virtuelle Ausgänge, 20 Drumkits inkl. High-End Wizoo-Sets, , grafische Drum Kitr Erstellung (Drag & Drop), 20 Velocity Layer , Dru Pad ist polyphon -> kein abschneiden der Sounds (MachineGun Effekt), fast alle Parameter automatisierbar, ADSR Hüllkurve 179.00 DM 91.52 EUR
New features seems to be drag&drop drumkit creation and ADSR envelope.
Does anybody knows more about this? Is Steinberg really refreshing this outdated dinosaur? I never used it since I have DR-008...
Lotuz
Posted: 19th October 2001 19:16
quote
Quote:
STEINBERG LM-4 VST Mark II drum module, up to 128 velocityzones per pad, 20 Drum sets included; featuring ten 24-bit(:wizoo
high-class sets, 6 outputs, sample accuratesynchronisation, complete drum module and all settings can be saved with the song (Cubase VST)


More info at http://www.keyboards.de/news/0110/22f01.htm

Horse
Posted: 19th October 2001 20:12
Lotuz,

You caused so much trouble with this on cubase.net they deleted your post...full stop!

H
Lotuz
Posted: 19th October 2001 20:33
You mean the "Coming Soon" game thread? Nah, wasn't me who caused the trouble. I just wondered what that new Steinberg teaser was all about.


That thread is more or less revived with this one.
Horse
Posted: 19th October 2001 20:51
Yeah, but can you believe they're trying to launch another drum sampler...?!

H
Lotuz
Posted: 19th October 2001 20:56
The LM-4 MK III will be released early 2003.
afx23
Posted: 19th October 2001 21:28
i dont want it, lm4 sux
Lotuz
Posted: 20th October 2001 06:11
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Quote:
i dont want it, lm4 sux


What exactly is wrong with the LM-4 in your opinion? Because the LM-4 MKII seems to be a major improvement.
Ben [KVR]
Posted: 20th October 2001 11:39
Cool stuff! I've posted a news item
afx23
Posted: 20th October 2001 11:54
quote:
Originally posted by Lotuz:


What exactly is wrong with the LM-4 in your opinion? Because the LM-4 MKII seems to be a major improvement.


dunno , look at dr-008 and tell me.
Lotuz
Posted: 20th October 2001 14:35
Okay, the LM-4 MKII and DR-008 are not in the same league. If you already have the DR-008, then I can imagine why you're not interested in the new LM-4. But I think it's going to be a good VST drum sampler to start with. If Steinberg had released it when people started asking about features such as loading samples directly into the VSTi instead of making script files, then I guess a lot of the LM-4 users including me wouldn't have switched to other VST drum samplers. If it's not going to cost me too much, then I'm still interested in updating my LM-4, but I don't really need it anymore since I already have the excellent RMIII and Battery. The new LM-4 kits are more interesting...
Horse
Posted: 20th October 2001 15:06
Hmm.. but it doesn't look like an upgrade - more a 'new' product, and who would want to buy when you have the excellent battery and DR008 to contend with?

H
Lotuz
Posted: 20th October 2001 15:52
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Hmm.. but it doesn't look like an upgrade - more a 'new' product, and who would want to buy when you have the excellent battery and DR008 to contend with?


I think there are a lot of people who will stick to Steinberg software if they've bought Cubase VST as well. Especially those people who don't know much about VSTi's and are adviced by their local dealer who also doesn't know much about VSTi's.
tesla
Posted: 20th October 2001 17:14
quote:
Originally posted by Lotuz:
Especially those people who don't know much about VSTi's and are adviced by their local dealer who also doesn't know much about VSTi's.


So it is. For example, a workmate of mine who used Cubase so far only for audio editing and external MIDI gear, asked his 'regular' dealer 2 months ago for a the best virtual software drummachine for Cubase. And the dealer sold him LM-4, Version 1. Two months ago, when DR-008, RM III or Battery where available. What a rippoff...

Unfortunately he told me about this after he bought it...

Or look at the Halion hype. Halion is selling well because it's "in a box" and sold through "classic" distribution channels, regular music stores, where musicians used to buy their gear. Of course this dealer will never tell the musician that there are competitors like Virtual Sampler that have most of the features but costs much less - since this dealer will earn nothing then.
tesla
Posted: 20th October 2001 17:16
quote:
Originally posted by Lotuz:


More info at http://www.keyboards.de/news/0110/22f01.htm


News from the day after tomorrow? A look into future? Very funny... Smile
topaz
Posted: 20th October 2001 18:44
oh my thats just we need right about now

"nice one steinberg" about 3/4 months behind the times

but hey people will buy it nevertheless

of coarse what they should of done is endorsed DR-008
imho the best machine for the job.

but each to there own

DR-008 kick it to the curb....


quote:
Originally posted by tesla:
Hi,

I was very suprised browsing at the Thomann (http://www.thomann.de/) website (sorry for German):

150550 STEINBERG - LM-4 Mark II
STEINBERG LM-4 Mark II Drummodul für VST mit absoluten sample-genauem Timing; wird als PlugIn geladen und von Midi-Spurenangesteuert, 6 virtuelle Ausgänge, 20 Drumkits inkl. High-End Wizoo-Sets, , grafische Drum Kitr Erstellung (Drag & Drop), 20 Velocity Layer , Dru Pad ist polyphon -> kein abschneiden der Sounds (MachineGun Effekt), fast alle Parameter automatisierbar, ADSR Hüllkurve 179.00 DM 91.52 EUR
New features seems to be drag&drop drumkit creation and ADSR envelope.
Does anybody knows more about this? Is Steinberg really refreshing this outdated dinosaur? I never used it since I have DR-008...
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