I bought Tau Pro after hearing Tau. I must admit, I was disappointed. I know Tau Pro has a lot of options, but it doesn't sound as good as Tau to me. Bought it months ago in fact, but only starting to use it now. What I want is tau with midi controllers.

Has anyone else managed to make Tau pro sound like Tau ?

Thanks

Eric

To be honest, I haven't really tried...

I know Tau Pro is marketed as a bass synth, but it does some excellent sweeps and leads as well. (Shame it doesn't have a polyphonic mode.)

In fact, I've managed to do a whole track (other than drums of course) using nothing but the Tau Pro. I didn't intentionally start out to do that, but I just kept coming up with great sounds.

Eric,

To get Tau Pro to sound like Tau, just use the "Empty" patch that it defaults to when you load it. This has roughly the same settings as the original Tau. Then, turn Accent Level to min, Accent Threshold to Max and turn Drive off.

Now, if you tweak the cutoff, resonance, decay and envmod just like before then it will respond pretty much the same as the original Tau. However, you will notice that the sound is much stronger and bassier so maybe a little EQ to thin the sound out a bit. Maybe also use a bit of M-Drive rather than the built-in Drive as they use different algorithmns.

Hope this helps
Dave
Muon Software Ltd
www.muon-software.com

Thanks Dave, very kind of you to reply. I'll try that when I gt back to my music partition.

I hadn't thought of the eq thing, to my ears, the filter sounds muted compared to the original which incidentally I love.

for some reason the tau sounds better then the tau pro, it just needs midi control on the cut off filter then it`ll be perfect.

it is the best 303 sound around, just so phat!!

The filter in Tau and the 18dB setting in Tau Pro are identical, it's the same code.

The difference in sound is down to the oscillator. Tau uses a BLIT-SWS oscillator just like Atom Pro and Electron, this is very bright sounding and generates really pure waveforms. The downside is that the possible wave shapes are limited, and difficult to modulate in realtime.

Tau Pro on the other hand uses digital waveform oscillators with 2x oversampling. They don't sound as bright because the source material is a sample taken from an analogue synth rather than a mathematically generated wave. The oversampling ensures there is no loss of bandwidth (unlike most other wavetable-type VSTi's). It also means that we can do very smooth sync, ring mod, modulation etc. without causing any unpleasant aliasing. If you try Ring Mod in a few other synths around you'll soon hear what I mean.

Future Muon synths like Positron will use a hybrid of the two methods to get the best possible sound in all circumstances. Watch this space!

Dave

Back from my experiment.

Thanks again, Dave, as a non-programmer, that's exactly what I thought you were doing. Making the sound more flexible to accomodate the range of extra possiblities ( if that makes sense ). The problem is that it isn't nearly as close to the magical 303 sound anymore

I really believe if you added simple vcf and volume modulation to the tau ( assuming it's possible ) and sold it commercially, it would be very successful. Well, two customers at least !!

No criticism intended, I couldn't program a 303 filter to save my life.

Absolutely right dietmar, nobody wants them anymore, outdated cliches.

The people buying the nasty little things for just under $1000 dollars are totally kidding themselves on.

You can hear a lot of 303's in current dance music. They might not be doing classic sweeps all the time, but they are still there and they still sound fantastic.

so right. people s`type the 303 sound but theres a lot more to it then just acid riffs.

i use the tau for single bass sounds in dance music and it fits like a jem.

not dishing the pro its also very very good.

i love tha tau's saw osc with Steinbergs Distortion

The tau pro is my Favorite bass/lead VSTi

the electron is the best for pads and drones

the Cm-101 is a really good for analogue meat and potatoes sounds

and the SR-202 is THE best drums sampler for the price(its got a filter)

Newbies: download the demos and the banks here www.kvr-vst.com/bank.php

you won't regret it...though you might 'cause you won't be able to resist buying them

and they are all Pc/Mac plus dual processor friendly

dave I love your products