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AuthorTopic: anyone useing Csound?
fitch
Posted: 26th March 2002 06:18
what do you think of it?

I think it's a brilliant idea...except i'm not quite getting there just yet!

Did you have any trouble setting it up?

I can get to the point where the .orc and .sco files are selected...have selected 3 files for the defaults...selected claris for the text files(and can see them) ...selected cubase as output for resulting .aif...press render ...

nothing...

just VERY quick view of transport before it disappears never to return...no sound

anybody?
fitch
Posted: 26th March 2002 21:54
sorted it out by downloading a new beta version

this thing is great...it's free...

go try it yourself

web page
jdg
Posted: 27th March 2002 15:09
haha YES CSOUND! i got my BFA in Digital Audio/Video and it was all we used in my computer music courses was CSOUND and Common Lisp. Talk about a pain in the ass!!!!! We ran it on SGI's and it was all command line and programming... damn i was an art major, not a CS major!.. it was good tho, i learned to program my own reverbs, filters, etc... CSOUND is very powerful, there are some most wonderful time stretching and sound morphing algorithms out there for CSOUND that sound so much better than anything out there under $1000. So if you got a year of free time read these books and you'll be in the world of "computer music" (aka modern composion with computer/algorhythmic based synthesis and arrangement).

This Book

This Book

and this book

I could go on forever about this as it was 4 years of my life, but... i wont.. needless to say i perfer gui tools and good a VSTi.
Collusion
Posted: 27th March 2002 15:43
If I remember right there used to be a .ORC generator called Patchwork. It was a similar editing environment to Reaktor. Don't know if it was ever available for Mac though Fitch. [Confused]
paradiddle
Posted: 27th March 2002 16:19
Visual orchestra is another prog ala patchwork.

THere's another version of csound called csound av which is more realtime. It use to be called directcsound. It now incorporates, knobs, and support video effects. Very nice if your day job is a secretery or a novel writer.

Pat
fitch
Posted: 27th March 2002 16:25
thanks johann [Big Grin]

I picked up the 3rd book...and am absorbing it this very holiday.

the 2nd one i know about....mmmm...maybe anohter purchase later

but I hadn't even come across the 1st one...

so thanks a million.

i haven't enjoyed learning about a new sphere in music since the degree i did in the Birmingham crotchet factory....and that really was a while ago!

Thanks too collusion...

I've looked for patchwork?...but no success yet

won't give up just yet though

[Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
jdg
Posted: 27th March 2002 16:29
i've you didn't live so far away from me, i'd lend you my books!
fitch
Posted: 27th March 2002 17:11
cor...

what an offer [Wink]

thanks mate
Raven
Posted: 27th March 2002 17:35
quote:
i haven't enjoyed learning about a new sphere in music since the degree i did in the Birmingham crotchet factory....and that really was a while ago!


"the Birmingham crotchet factory" I am a Brumie
that has never heard it called that before [Big Grin]

I asume you meen that building at the top of
New street , just below the library ? [Smile]
bluey
Posted: 27th March 2002 17:42
Its hard to believe Fitch is a woman ! Where can I find more like these.
Lazlo Minimart
Posted: 27th March 2002 17:44
As a long-time Reaktor user, I've been wanting to get into something more like C Sound, MAX/MSP, or SuperCollider for some time now. Being that my DAW is a PC and not a Mac, C Sound seemed like the only option in terms of sound programming languages.

But just today, I downloaded PD, by the original designer of MSP:

PD by Miller Puckette

It's hardly plug-and-play, but after walking through the program's helpful tutorials, I must say, I'm mightily impressed. Using this tool, you could easily build something quite comparable to a complex Reaktor synth (though with a great deal more effort and far less ease-of-use). There are granular synthesis capabilities that are quite remarkable given that this thing is free!

I do feel that VST-compatible plugins with GUIs are endlessly valuable in that they help us to concentrate on making music rather than thinking about how the sound is being created. However, these music languages are great for learning how synthesis techniques actually work. If you like to geek out (and I do), they are something else! I only wish you could compile plugins from the things you create in them (maybe you can?)!

I will be investigating C Sound soon. Those books look very interesting.... Can't wait til MAX/MSP is available for the PC!
Big Tick
Posted: 27th March 2002 19:16
Well, I often use CSound to try out new synth ideas. It's one of the most powerful tools out there.

'Tick
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