Who's going to invent a real Voice Machine ... you know ... play some keys and a choir sound comes out.

Maybe solo voices, oohs, aaahs, doos.

I'd really love this. Instant choirs and voices. Wow.

Is there some voice algorithm around to start off the idea?

I would definitely pay for something like this.

It could be one in a line of wonderful specialist synths like Ticky Clav, daOrgan, Plucked String, Cheese Machine, ZR-1 etc.

I would love to real time play a Vowel Knob ...aaaeeeeiii ...ohhhh ...yuuuuuu - ooh!

Crazy. Gimme one

('marco ... here's your cue )

heheh

Hey Kevvvvvvvvvvvv,

You've reminded me of an idea that haunts me from time to time!!!

My idea is this:

Record my voice into SoundForge - making a selection of sounds

1) Sustained vowels - eeee oooo iiiii aaaaa, etc.
2) One shots - da ba dee dum, etc.

Then tweek them (normalize the RMS, etc. cropping & stuff)

Next stage load them into Halion or Battery and then feed the output into voice machine as an insert!

This would be such a fun thing to do!

Seeing as VoiceMachine requires midi data and vocal signals you could either put the chords in first and then play the one shots on a MIDI keyboard OR sequence the sampled self first and play the chords on the MIDI keyboard!

A great idea, even if I do say so myself! (Licks his finger, touches his own face and makes a sizzle sound! - lol)

PS: I'm gonna do this right now.

Extra PS: No Halion/Battery/VoiceMachine then use MDA Vocoder and Helios or similar!

Reg

actually I made something like that for SynC Modular last year, the patch is named "Talk shooter" and can morph from a vowel to another,
I used in a song simply called "Sync Blues"
made with SM sounds only, I used there "Talk shooter" for a Tibetan monk like voice.

My patch it's not very suitable for extended melody since the vocal spectrum is limited in a narrow range of notes, anyway quite realistic for some kind of voice.

Josep M Comajuncosas(http://www.csounds.com/jmc/) made a cool patch for SM emulating Tuva singer style.

I know that a similar ens is at the User area for
Reaktor.

OT:
I'd be glad to collaborate with with a coder to built a VST generator, but usually they "the coders" don't like this kind of collaboration (who knows? <grin>) e.g. I made a lot of Clavinet and similar PM synths for SM more than one year ago, I offered my knowledge to many C++ coders,
but... could be a merit issue?
Sorry for this OT, just let the keyboard going.

Hey that was my idea

I do plan on making one of these, but it is far off by at least a year.

dw

pleeeaasssee, let there be an Atari St version!


putte

well you could try that with AIFFplayer
( granular sampler ala kontackt)

but unfortunately it Mac only

[ 03 March 2002, 03:57: Message edited by: realmarco ]

Well a Voicemachine exists as hardware in the form of the Yamaha FS1R. It would be cool if someone would write a softsynth which was based around formant oscillators and filters, especially if you could morph between different vowels. One of the main problems is that most of the formant stuff I've heard lacks that pro-sound edge.

Kev,

I have had one in the works for a while.

'Tick

Tick,

I really hope you can get this thing accomplished. I am in NEEED of some nice Carmina Burana (probably misspelled) choir sounds.

dw

Tick,

Sounds like a godsend.

Questions popping up:

Dusted wants fast attacks. Can it be done?

What sort of price would you like to charge?

How long might it take to complete?

Questions, questions, questions ... sheesh

Kev,

Fast attacks... why not.. although choir-pad stuff usually has slow attacks.

Price would be similar to the ep-station, in the 35$ range.

How long... damn... I don't wanna rush it... I've got to make sure the formants are tuned right... and you'll want some onboard effects, of course... I'd say, a few more weeks before betatesting...

'Tick

Dont forget us Macies
(I am probably the only mac head that has bought Rainbow)

Big Tick,
I'm really glad that you have taken on this chore. I'm interested in making plugs and I wanted to make something like this, but I'm just learning how to program so I estimate at least a year to get something down the way I want it. Who knows mayby longer, maybe not.

I don't want the same old choir. What I think is needed is some realistic, scary music, intense quick staccato choirs. Of course I think that nice pads are excelellent too. But quick choir 'stabs' are what is missing from all the choir pathces that I find. One more thing is this going to be physical modeled or sampled or a combination of both.

PS
If this thing will fill the gap in my set up I will quickly buy two of them and give one away to a lucky individual.

thanks

dw

Sold again. Brill

Tick, I'll pay for a beta and help you test it if you want. No problem.

As soon as you set something up with Shareit I'll pop along and buy it

Can I mention that me and Dusted have been having a conversation about choirs, voices and scarey voices for some time. It's great that now someone's going to do something about it

OK Kev,

Expect an early beta this week. Also, if someone has a cool suggestion for a name, I'll take it !
'Tick

[ 04 March 2002, 10:01: Message edited by: Big Tick ]

Names for the new Machine!!!

C'mon, peeps.

here we go ... the first ... Scarey Voices

A few name ideas:

>PseudoVox

>Voice Box

>VirtuaChoir

>PseudoSingers

>SimulChoir

>LectroVox/LectroVoice

etc..

VirtuaVox

Virtual Voice

Breathy Bits

FormaChorus

Errr...

Vox Tickuli
Choir Riot
Bigmon Tickernacle Choir

...nyuk nyuk nyuk...

(Yeah, well...)

haha
The ideas just keep coming dont they wookie?

Hey, how about "UltraVox"....?

Whoops....nah, Billie Currie, Midge Ure and the guys might sue...

Heh....yeah, maybe it would anger them enough to reunite!!
(yeah, in my dreams only...sigh...)

[ 04 March 2002, 15:20: Message edited by: Har ]

BT,
This is a great idea ... and i'm really excited about it. Sign me up for beta too, if you need.

Are you familiar with a vst effect for choirs? CLoneEnsemble?? Just thought that might help for fx or idears or just to know what else is out there. It might be cool for the user to be able to choose his/her choir size. Just a thought.

Doug

Here's a 'Great One':

PhoneTick! (phonetic, get it??)

Hope you like it.

Thanks

Also, dare I suggest the buzz machine called 'Rectal anarchy', a synth based on vocal samples?? Not very high quality, but it may inspire you.

I'll beta for you too. That is if you need more.

(yes I'll still buy two versions)

dw

I'd be interested in beta-testing too...

The larynx

No suggestions from me. How could I possibly compete with Vowelator and Aaahsynth. Magnificent!

But I do just want to put my negligible weight behind this project.

I've already made my mind up to only purhase VSTis very rarely from here on in because I've got such a great collection. However, this one would probably be on par with Nexus as a 'must have' and at a bargain price.

It will go fantastically with Cheeze Machine which I think is one amazing piece of freeware.

Thanks Big Tick.

Caleb

OK guys, thanks for all the suggestions. I now have my name - I won't tell though, until it's released

Stay tuned,

'Tick

Check out the MTron's site: they have demo MP3's of the main MTron bank, as well as two new tape banks: the Tape Bank Vol.1 has a lot of voice/choir effects, but the original MTron has the "vintage" Mellotron choirs.
Yikes...I just saw that the new bank coming out has a lot of vintage Genesis choir sounds (like in "Entangled")...oooh, I may have to grab that too!

http://www.gmediamusic.com/

I've always been tempted to get m-tron, but for now I'm definitely holding our for whatever 'Tick comes up with

Ars Fortunae ... aha aha aha

Yep...you can never have enough weapons in your Sonic Arsonal....

Maybe the guy really does not know...

Just in case what u want is a sampler, like
HaLion, EXS24, Sampler Chan (uhhh) & Virtual Sampler !

Hope it helps u
cu

Woosh... bumping this thread back up in the hope that Mr Tick can give us all an E.T.A on when the Choir doo-dad might be released

Not that I'm impatient or anyfink

I was just thinking about this as I could really use it right now on a piece I'm working on.

Doug

Well guys,

I know I'm late. It's coming along nicely (got even a small mp3 demo if anyone is interested), but the last few days have been too busy with customer support to make any progress. Hopefully it'll cool down soon. So... some more patience and it'll be there

'Tick

The Tick will strike again....wonderful.
putte

post them baby, post them !

OK... here's a humble mp3:
http://www.chez.com/rainbowvst/audio/test.mp3

I still got to tweak the model a bit... But it's getting there... and, it's based on the same core than my other vsti's, so (mac weirdnesses aside - see the current problems with TickyClav and EP-station) it should in theory port to the Mac....

'Tick

Mr Tick
Ignore what I wrote first if you spotted it...

Sounds rather nifty good sir...

Waiting patiently now.. it sounds worth it

[ 20 March 2002, 22:02: Message edited by: Wookie ]

- try 'rightclick/save as . . .' - works here

- cheers rob [ phuzzy_logical ]

[sounds pretty cool btw]

[ 20 March 2002, 22:06: Message edited by: phuzzy ]

damn it don't work no more

Oh, that's pretty cool (the test.mp3), sounds sort of like the Ahh patch on my Kawai K1, but nicer. But I was hoping you were gonna do like VocalWriter but for the PC, that's about the craziest sequencer/synth ever, 85 voices, 79 or so based on GM patches; Cello, Clarinet, Timbale, etc. And a bunch more phonemes than available in regular Macintalk. I prefer the [[pbas 60;inpt PHON]]~dOW [[pbas 62]]~rEY [[pbas 64]]~mIY [[pbas 65]]~fAA [[inpt TEXT]] style. But the Aahsynth, on the other hand, could actually be useful, rather than just irritating.

Dear Tick,

can you make AaahSynth sound like this:
Voices of the Apocalypse

Ok, I'm kidding, but if you'd pull it off you'd probably have a winner on your hands, plus the people over at Quantum Leap will probably have you assasinated

cheers.

dear god if any coders are looking for something to do, finish flinger as a vsti! the original developer passed on, quite a shame.

(so that's what the lyric function on the score page is there for.. :)

check out my *amazing demo* on my web page no really, it's cool.