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KVR Forum [Instruments] » Archive » Instruments » April 2002 Index | KVRFA1
AuthorTopic: Absynth for PC?!? Released?!?
vectron
Posted: 22nd April 2002 17:21
I know that NI website says that its coming soon. But, I did a search on the web and came across this page <<--->>
where they stating it was released as a warez already?!?!? I was waiting to buy this instrument for a very long time, and now its cracked version is released even before the official release. Is that possible or it's some kind of a prank?

[ 23 April 2002, 22:09: Message edited by: Ben@KvR ]
Darbyclash3
Posted: 22nd April 2002 18:04
Absynth is shipping to the distributors. All I can think is that someone from a distribution house gave a copy to Paradox. But it is real.

Darb
duckwit
Posted: 22nd April 2002 18:04
It is probably a beta version. I saw the new sampler thingy posted on a newsgroup 4 or 5 weeks ago. This happens all the time, a less than trustworthy beta tester passes it to one of the warez groups.

Its a shame, but there you go,

chris
realmarco
Posted: 22nd April 2002 18:40
(still..no..new..keyboard)

I..doubt..that..its..gonn..be..Stable
Absynth..is..such..a..complicated
beast...much...like..reaktor....meaning
that..there...is...code...in...there..that..knows..if
the...copy...has..beeen..cracked..and..then..becomes..unstable...and.. actually..does..damgage

to...your..computer

try...reaktor
make..an...ensemble.
give..the..ensembleto
.someoone...who..has..bought..reaktor

they..will..get..a..message..saying
that..it..was..made..on..a.cracked..copy

who...knows..what..else..its..gonna..do

comon..and..anyways..NI..programmers..gotta..eat..and..have...shelter

buy...it!!
afx23
Posted: 22nd April 2002 18:40
Im affraid it s the real thing...

NI > no pc demo yet?

Did anyone get their Absynth pre-order yet?
vectron
Posted: 22nd April 2002 18:41
I saw a listing for Kontact beta as well, but that one said "beta". This one sounds like a real deal. I wonder if NI is behind all that. They like to create a big hype behind their releases.
Toro Rojo
Posted: 22nd April 2002 18:54
Hmmm... its little hypocrite how many of you are against software piracy, but you know this information already... this hasnt come to you by itself, i guess you did a websearch on absynth, and stumbled across this info. BTW absynth is amazing.

Regards Congo
Darbyclash3
Posted: 22nd April 2002 19:11
its no beta, its Absynth 1.3. And about the threat of it becoming unstable, Reaktor uses a dongle, a Wibu Key systems one at that. Thats a much differnt beasts from Absynth's CD+ Serial protection. My Reaktor dongle has some issues, but runs well now. However, I would feel much more confident without it. Anyway, see ya

Darb
Toro Rojo
Posted: 22nd April 2002 19:17
I would like to add that Cubase SX is amazing too... When will it come to the shops, packed in a box u think??
Michael Kleps from reFX
Posted: 22nd April 2002 19:26
I would say end of june...
Darbyclash3
Posted: 22nd April 2002 19:27
Cubase SX will be available for those who are upgrading in Late May.
afx23
Posted: 22nd April 2002 19:27
quote:
Originally posted by Darbyclash3:
Cubase SX will be available for those who are upgrading in Late May.
will it work on 98???
Toro Rojo
Posted: 22nd April 2002 19:32
quote:
Originally posted by afx23:
quote:
Originally posted by Darbyclash3:
Cubase SX will be available for those who are upgrading in Late May.
will it work on 98???
Yep, it does..
jdg
Posted: 22nd April 2002 20:04
quote:
Originally posted by Congo Natty:
quote:
Originally posted by afx23:
quote:
Originally posted by Darbyclash3:
Cubase SX will be available for those who are upgrading in Late May.
will it work on 98???
Yep, it does..
huh?
cubase SX is macOSX or win2k/XP only
http://www.steinberg.net/products/up/cubasesx/sys_req.phtml?id=100103& sid=01126134

lots a peeple are freeking out about this.. as they don't wont to get winXP (as they cant just get a free copy from a friend ... and don't wanna pay for the upgrade for thier OS too)

winXP is expensive.. i wish they'd drop the price on it...
Funkybot
Posted: 22nd April 2002 20:27
Johann I only paid like a hundred bucks for Win XP home, there's nothing in proffesional to benefit DAW use from what I heard, to me that's a fairly reasonable price. I mean it costs as much as Pentagon and when you think of all the things an OS does as opposed to a soft synth I think it's totally a fair price. Anyway I'm usually not one to defend Microsoft, but as far as XP's functionality/stability goes I think MS has finally got out a decent OS. Besides if you can afford to dish out for Cubase I don't think buying XP will kill you.
Darbyclash3
Posted: 22nd April 2002 20:30
Those who say that SX will work on 98 say this after trying the beta warez version. The actual installer for the full SX will be coded so that it wont install in 98/ME etc. Just as Pro Tools Free won't install on XP. Hope this helps.

Darby
afx23
Posted: 22nd April 2002 20:38
quote:
Originally posted by Darbyclash3:
Those who say that SX will work on 98 say this after trying the beta warez version. The actual installer for the full SX will be coded so that it wont install in 98/ME etc. Just as Pro Tools Free won't install on XP. Hope this helps.

Darby
ahhh but that can be "fixed" with the right tools
Darbyclash3
Posted: 22nd April 2002 20:49
im sure it can, not easily but it can be. much easier to make something 98/ME only work with 2000 or XP than the opther way around. seems like a huge waste of time to me. XP kills 98, no compeition. I hope your DOS revival goes well.

Darby
afx23
Posted: 22nd April 2002 21:05
quote:
Originally posted by Darbyclash3:
im sure it can, not easily but it can be. much easier to make something 98/ME only work with 2000 or XP than the opther way around. seems like a huge waste of time to me. XP kills 98, no compeition. I hope your DOS revival goes well.

Darby
i hate dos , i just thinking economics : my fancy soundcard will never have XP or 2k drivers. So yeah im not gonna drop half a grand on a new inferior audio card just so i can run XP.

and XP doesn t kill 98 , you just dont know how to tweak yo' DAW
Darbyclash3
Posted: 22nd April 2002 21:11
A trained ape can tweak XP, and could produce a faster result than 98. Ask anyone who has upgraded, they will say the same thing. More plugins, more VSTi's, etc. etc.

Darby
afx23
Posted: 22nd April 2002 21:18
quote:
Originally posted by Darbyclash3:
A trained ape can tweak XP, and could produce a faster result than 98. Ask anyone who has upgraded, they will say the same thing. More plugins, more VSTi's, etc. etc.

Darby
sorry i forgot to specify i use 98 lite with the 95 shell . it s the browser integration that kills 98.
also i do not run games , internet , or productivity apps on my music WS.

what use would more of everything be if my soundcard doesnt run????
Funkybot
Posted: 22nd April 2002 23:22
quote:
what use would more of everything be if my soundcard doesnt run????
You have a valid point, and you're right you shouldn't upgrade if your DAW is stable and especially not if your soundcard doesn't have XP drivers. But aside from that XP certainly does kick the crap out of 98 as far as performance goes, plus WDM drivers are the bomb, especially for us Sonar peeps.
mateo
Posted: 23rd April 2002 03:03
quote:
Originally posted by afx23:
what use would more of everything be if my soundcard doesnt run????
why wouldn't your soundcard run? Microsoft is going to kill off win98, so any company that doesn't offer XP compatible drivers is shooting itself in the foot, unless they're no longer supporting the product...
blacky
Posted: 23rd April 2002 03:03
It's really not a joke. Absynth was cracked before the selling starts.

I would claim, there are thousands of downloads from start to this moment.

I am very interested in copy protection techniques and so I am not very surprised. I think there is not even one functionally protection mechanism to prevent software for piracy.

Only a few days after the releases (sometimes before the releases) each software (especially audio software) can be found in the warez szene.

Megabyte wise.

Developers: you have to implement some really hidden techniques to prevent your software!
Piracy is not so much the danger for the big companies (they can compense this) but probably the death for some of the litle ones.

[ 23 April 2002, 06:45: Message edited by: blacky ]
pornstar
Posted: 23rd April 2002 03:38
Actually I don't know why anyone is suprised. When FM7 was supposed to be released I checked with Guitar Center every week to buy the genuine release and it showed up more than a month after the crack and the crack already had the extra sounds that still haven't been released as far as I know at an extra charge. I'm going to Guitar Center tomorrow to see if I can buy Absynth but I have a feeling it won't be there for another week or two. BTW, that argument abount Reaktor crack slowing down/crashing a computer or what not is such a load of crap. It's really annoying when people try to scare people for no reason, that's what parents do to 6 year olds. I have the real copy with the pain in the ass dongle and the crack and honestly I just use the crack because the dongle is such a pain in my butt. However I want NI to keep making there wonderful products so I buy the real version to support them. Also, for a bunch of people so adamant about being anti-piracy the info on Absynth sure showed up quick here but that's a whole other topic... [Smile]
M_W_N_P
Posted: 23rd April 2002 05:13
I'm sure many of you will have seen this interview with Brian Clevinger, Absynth's creator.

For those that haven't, here's a short quote from it:

"When I was selling Absynth myself the copy protection scheme was light, and pretty easy to crack. My attitude was that it would get cracked anyway, so rather than bother with a complex CP scheme, just make a program that was so inspiring that people would pay for it anyway. That's what lots of people think, and it seems to make sense. And I prefer to trust people.

Sales were ok at first, I was very happy, and I'd get several letters a day from people saying how much they loved the program... and then one day sales just stopped. It took nearly a week before I sold one copy. My web site had gotten hundreds of hits from a crack site that was distributing a patch. I patched the patch, and eventually things picked up a bit, but never like it was before. It was very depressing, I wouldn't have been able to continue developing Absynth full time if things had gone on that way."

If you want to use Absynth, please buy it. It's worth every penny - and by supporting this product, you can ensure its future development.

(No, I don't work for Native Instruments.)
blacky
Posted: 23rd April 2002 05:56
I am shocked.

Thanks for this piece of interview.

This showes very drastically the charackter of us "consumers".
(but also the mistaken shipping strategy of NI. They have forced the warezising process with their long attitude of endless preview promotion and waiting!)
kevvvvv
Posted: 23rd April 2002 06:43
blacky ... if you want to discuss warez then please do it at another site.

This is not a warez forum, and if you try to make it such then your posts will be deleted.

'kay
Caleb
Posted: 23rd April 2002 07:13
quote:
Originally posted by Funkybot:
Johann I only paid like a hundred bucks for Win XP home, there's nothing in proffesional to benefit DAW use from what I heard, to me that's a fairly reasonable price. I mean it costs as much as Pentagon and when you think of all the things an OS does as opposed to a soft synth I think it's totally a fair price. Anyway I'm usually not one to defend Microsoft, but as far as XP's functionality/stability goes I think MS has finally got out a decent OS. Besides if you can afford to dish out for Cubase I don't think buying XP will kill you.
At the moment my soundcard specialist who maintains my machine has advised against XP, but only for the moment.

I'm looking forward to the change.
blacky
Posted: 23rd April 2002 07:32
Ohh this site wana be "absolutely clean"!!!

Let me only say this: SILENCE is not the right weapon against WAREZ! And if this site is deleting all messages, trying to fight against WAREZ, so it supports warez!!!
JohnVulich
Posted: 23rd April 2002 07:36
quote:
Originally posted by blacky:
Ohh this site wana be "absolutely clean"!!!

Let me only say this: SILENCE is not the right weapon against WAREZ! And if this site is deleting all messages, trying to fight against WAREZ, so it supports warez!!!
Hey, take it elsewhere Dude! You seem like you have some kind of "Axe to grind". This is not the place for it! And if you're under the impression that somehow you are gonna mount a "One Man" campaign against Warez and solve a problem that major corporations around the world haven't been able to solve... well you my friend are delusional!

JV

[ 23 April 2002, 10:41: Message edited by: John Vulich ]
Daniel Richter
Posted: 23rd April 2002 10:02
quote:
Originally posted by afx23:
Im affraid it s the real thing...

NI > no pc demo yet?

Did anyone get their Absynth pre-order yet?
Absynth PC Demo will be up in about two weeks,

cheers,

daniel (ni)
Ben [KVR]
Posted: 23rd April 2002 10:31
Thanks for the confirmation Daniel!

And now I'm closing this thread [Big Grin]
whyterabbyt
Posted: 23rd April 2002 21:15
blacky quoth Ohh this site wana be "absolutely clean"!!!

Yes. Do you have an issue with that, or is it just too hard for your tiny mind to understand?

Let me only say this: SILENCE is not the right weapon against WAREZ!

The users of this site are generally not silent about warez. Claiming that they do just makes you look a fool. However they do so in context, not just ill-advised, pointless ranting. Trolling turn you on does it?

And if this site is deleting all messages, trying to fight against WAREZ, so it supports warez!!

You're NOT trying to fight warez. You're pontificating.
And KVR-VST has a very simple policy, one even a fool like you can follow; don't discuss warez. Not 'only discuss your plans for a Holy Crusade against warez'. Dont discuss warez. Three words. Covers all permutations and situations.

And once more, since it seems you're having difficulty understanding it ; we DONT support warez, or warez users. I despise software piracy, and its use. Imply that I condone it again, and there'll be a wealth of trouble, understand?
duckwit
Posted: 23rd April 2002 21:22
Oh God please not this thread again.

chris
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