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AuthorTopic: Any news on FL3.5?
xxFT13xx
Posted: 3rd June 2002 10:29
just curious if anyones got new news on FL3.5

-Sin
emerald tablet
Posted: 3rd June 2002 10:32
why do all the funk people use fl
lets see if there is a link between music style and platform used :-)

i use any platform and i make any music Smile
Caleb
Posted: 3rd June 2002 10:39
Do all the funk people use FL??

Links between style of music and host. Hmmmmm.

It's an interesting thought, but I think people are too busy breaking stereotypical boundaries placed around hosts for it to be a topic that's going to get a uniform result.
spirit
Posted: 3rd June 2002 10:39
Perhaps most people can't afford to buy multiple platforms ?

And yes, some info on Fruity 3.5 would be good ! It seemed like it was "imminent" two weeks ago...
donkey tugger
Posted: 3rd June 2002 10:46
Yes, where art the 3.5?

On the subject of styles, I find that if I write using Cubase, Reason or another linear sequencer, i tend to come up with things which are different than what I come up with using Fruity.

My Cubase stuff always seems to be longer, more loose and not as good in my opinion. Wheras I find fruity to be excellent for writing a good pop tune as well as a whole load of Tugger nonsense! I reckon the way I write is well suited to the pattern based approach and all the endless messing around with left and right locators in Cubase and Reason just frustrates me.
emerald tablet
Posted: 3rd June 2002 11:02
platforms aren`t that expensive anymore
for talented synth freaks with production and performance going on that is.

besides that ...

everyone tried out multiple platforms i guess,
i know of plugins and platforms i used as demo or crack and when it fitted my needs i bought it

but lets not bring that subject up before it turns into a war.

but ok .. the paterned based seq with shuffle slide is simple and excelent for funk or nowadays dancemusic whilst the more accurate cubase score is good for people who are more into breathing music. but for the simpleness of effects and
vst-i use nothing beats fruity.

just wondered if there are more rock people into cubase and funk people into fl or house people into acid etc.. etc.. i know this typecasting isn`t realy free thinking Smile sorry

would like to play around with 3.5
Mirabebe
Posted: 3rd June 2002 12:01
KVR forums are not the place to ask for release dates, no? I suggest trying Fruityloops forums.

As for wars - i like them. Here's a starter: http://members.shaw.ca/stu.macQ/ - Reason Vs. Fruityloops
nuffink
Posted: 3rd June 2002 12:33
Feveria,
Interesting. I've thought for a while that Reason applies an overall something to it's sound. To me it's a kind of warmth which is, initially, seductive but ultimately annoying. Strangely this disappears on audio export or mixdown and if you rewire it into cubase. Any thoughts?
emerald tablet
Posted: 3rd June 2002 12:34
that link is not a war at all but a good test on soundquality in reason and fruityloops

however .. the subject on what is the most intuitive and creative gui to work with isn`t looked at. whilst this is the most important isue for a musician. the real musician makes originall music with any offered tool.

the soundquality is something else indeed but to me less important as originality and playing skills. To many not ... thats why you hear so much crap on the radio with artistic value -0 but soundquality value 10

but hey ! impressive stuff this test
very good example on how to do a test
nuffink
Posted: 3rd June 2002 12:52
Poweruser,
Couldn't agree more man. Whatever my doubts about Reason, it's still the first thing I reach for.
Mirabebe
Posted: 3rd June 2002 12:52
Nuffink: Well this test obviously shows that there's no "hidden EQ" or anything like that in Reason - its mixing is same as Fruityloops. At least when we are talking about rendered sound. the reason this test was done - was in reply to posts claiming that "Reason sounds phatter" . When asked to provide an example - noone ever did.

If you are talking about live playback - then the story could be different as Reason developers could have done something to conserve CPU but try to keep soundquality. Fruity for example does not do interpolation when in live playback, though it does it when rendering.

Poweruser: Interface is a subjective thing that can hardly be measured. This test is just numbers. I didn't do it - i just gave the link. The person who did it is a pretty bright man indeed. But if you missed a second page of the test - it gives a nice little revelation:

Reason doesn not have sample accurate timing.

[ 03 June 2002, 18:01: Message edited by: Feveria ]
nuffink
Posted: 3rd June 2002 22:23
Feveria,
Yeah the effect I'm talking about is on live playback. As for the timing thing the phasing is very obvious if you copy a redrum pattern to track, and keep the redrum playing.
It's still a fantastic piece of kit though. [Smile]
Mirabebe
Posted: 3rd June 2002 22:52
I always hoped for Reason to be released as a set of VSTi instruments.

Lets say, you buy Reason, but as an option - it's generators are also available as plugins (as a part of the package).

I am very interested in well designed, good looking, and full featured pack of generators like Reason has. I would buy the package without second thought. Hopefully Propheads will move in this direction - i don't see how they could loose - instead they might attract even more custoers who don't like to abandon their hosts of choice.

But then again - their agenda might be totally different. Time will tell.
ToE
Posted: 4th June 2002 01:45
quote:
Originally posted by Feveria:
KVR forums are not the place to ask for release dates, no? I suggest trying Fruityloops forums.

You must be joking. Every single time anyone asks about release dates of v3.5 on Looptalk, the best they get is the bs company line "every request pushes the release back a week/month/year/whatever... "
Mirabebe
Posted: 4th June 2002 12:04
Well then you know not to ask Smile Also known as "don't ask when" policy.
ToE
Posted: 4th June 2002 13:56
quote:
Originally posted by Feveria:
Well then you know not to ask Smile Also known as "don't ask when" policy.

Which is why kvr is the the perfect place to speculate on release dates or really anything outside the standard fruity party line.
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