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AuthorTopic: Demos with Virtual Guitarist
asylum
Posted: 25th June 2002 03:02
Hi!

I've just finished some tunes using Virtual Guitarist. I Think this VSTi is amazing.

If anybody is interested in hearing - go to: http://lupo.besonic.com/User/0,1391,g0r0l1t0o1i606355,FF.html

Have fun
Alex
dusted william
Posted: 25th June 2002 03:12
right on bro,

I like it to and hear is a little funky track with Virtual Guitar in action. it does not use all of it's potential, but it makes the track sizzly imo.

(oh and it is in this months contest)

http://www.olscratchrecordings.com/Sounds/short_dynamo.mp3

lates
dw
Shmoe
Posted: 25th June 2002 04:07
Hey Alex,
Nice tunes. I especially like Ich Denke An Dich.
Shmoe
iDavid
Posted: 25th June 2002 05:11
Here is another VG tune [Smile]
It is on my WEB page, so don't try that right click deal, just go to the page and download away!

http://homepage.mac.com/david_claudia/iDavid/FileSharing8.html
Caleb
Posted: 25th June 2002 06:10
I swear if they included individual notes as well as rhythms I'd look at this thing.

I would spend pretty good money on something that combined chords/rhythms with individual notes in such a way.

And then I'd spend more money on expansion packs to get different types of guitar.

Would be fantastic!

But other than that I just think this package (as great as it obviously is) just misses a small but essential element for me.
Sven Bornemark
Posted: 25th June 2002 17:20
You're not alone in saying that, Caleb. There have been numerous voices screaming for (or gently asking for) lead guitar implementation. Let me explain why VG is the way it is.

The real challenge behind VG was to crack that eternal mystery: How do you make guitar strumming sound good in a sequencer environment? There have been sampling CDs with guitar strumming recorded at certain tempos, e.g. 80, 100 and 120 BPM. Some of them sound really good, but they're not that easy/quick/intuitive to use. You'll probably have to use time stretching to make the strumming fit the tempo of your song, and we all know that how unreliable that technique can be. Also, it's hardly a real time operation working that way.

There are also other methods involving triggering of individually sampled notes, but there are reasons for why that technique doesn't sound too realistic.

I managed to crack the mystery by recording guitar strumming in a certain way and editing the audio files in a clever manner. Mind you, it's not easy to cut guitar strumming up in little pieces and make them sound sweet when played back at various BPM rates!

But once that task was solved, we had to come up with an easy playing method. It was Peter Gorges of Wizoo who suggested MIDI input and Paul Kellett who created the engine. Good job! And it all took an awful lot of time! We almost killed ourselves during that hectic half year of production, all four of us.

But finally VG was launched and we're all very happy it came out the way it did. VG does play realistic strumming, it does follow the tempo of your DAW, it does play a whole bunch of chords, it does let the user interact by changing its strumming figures slightly, adding syncopes and stuff.

Yes, I have been thinking about implementing lead work too, but I always come to the same conclusion: It can't be done. Or rather: I can't do it. I'm probably getting old...

If you've had the patience to read this far, I thank you. [Smile]
Takk
Posted: 26th June 2002 04:42
Top reply Sven - and thanks for a great product.
Caleb
Posted: 26th June 2002 21:26
quote:
Originally posted by Sven Bornemark:
Yes, I have been thinking about implementing lead work too, but I always come to the same conclusion: It can't be done. Or rather: I can't do it. I'm probably getting old...

Oh bummer. I guess that's the idea of a VSTi becoming my own personal guitar gone out the window.

I will have to just stick with the sampler and program it all the painful way.
dusted william
Posted: 26th June 2002 21:58
in Virtual Guitar on midi channel 16 you can actually play all the individual strums. depending on which note you hit with your right hand (that is how I have it set up anyway) then when you hit the strum on the ohter hand that note of strum will play. It is really very interesting how they did it. This gives you even more control on how you want it to sound. I didn't do that for my little tune, but in another song I'm working on I'm doing a little of just that.

dw
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