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AuthorTopic: A lot of synths! Now what?
Heavypop
Posted: 27th June 2002 12:29
Was thinking about the massive amount of great softsynths out there - I got some of the.
Seems to me that there will be no revolutionary new kind of VSTi's for quite some time now.
One might ask the question; what's next?
Well there's still a lot to be made on the hosts VSTi support, the computer will have to get faster - and they will. So...
I think there will be a lot of focus on synth patches. Lets face it, we're all spoiled little brats and there's a LOT of potential still to dig out of the products produced.

First of all - create great songs of course
Secondly - since I'm a sound addict - I will create great patches.

Just a thought...
/Heavy
lwg
Posted: 27th June 2002 12:57
IMO, I think we'll see the same thing that happened with hardware synths in the 90's.

The half dozen or so "must have" synths will have tons of patch support, possibly commercial. The rest will maintain cult following and have "grassroots" user patch support. The Internet certainly helps that along.

I don't see this market sustaining a need for 100 different $100 softsynths. I see the "must haves" continually upgrading or releasing new versions of theirs.

One man's opinion, anyway.
pricer
Posted: 27th June 2002 14:55
the next step will be when Yamaha release the DX7 v2, so everyone will jump out and get it and throw all their current kit out. Then ten years later; we'll all scavenge for those 'vintage VSTi's'.lol

[ 27 June 2002, 17:55: Message edited by: pricer ]
progfusion74
Posted: 27th June 2002 14:57
I think peopel have mentioned this before but soundwise VSTi's are pretty much there. Stability, and performance control are the next big steps (built in aprpeggiators), more controll over parameters, etc etc.

prog
kritikon
Posted: 28th June 2002 20:44
More functionality would certainly be welcome, but I reckon there are still some innovations to come yet.

e.g. I notice on the ReFX site they're working on Nexus (is that the right name?) and a little note at the bottom that says it will accept Korg Wavestation sysex data!!! There is so much that could be done with that kind of synthesis - after all, the Wavestation was an awful lot less than perfect - but potentially a huge synth.

I can think of a few tweaks that could be done to subtractive synthesis, and things like having a mouse able to draw in your own envelope shapes, LFO shapes etc would widen their sound palette.

Not many VSTis seem to have got into the modelling potential either - so there's a whole arena for experimentation.

FFT synthesis, surely someone could make up some synthesis based on the realtime sample manipulation idea as in the VP9000 (or whatever) all sorts of things could be done.

Merely a matter of time and some kind programmers effort.
bluey
Posted: 28th June 2002 21:03
no it wont, nexxus has been banned by the RIAA too and wavestation issued as a warning seriously damaging to refx health.
VitaminD
Posted: 28th June 2002 22:40
i'd like to see better sound quality in the future v.synths

in terms of richness though... many of the synths i've tried have seemed either really flat or really harsh.. not too many "smooth" sounding ones out there IMO..
oh and "better" filter algys would be welcome too..

hmm also.. a true virtual nord3 (or 4 [Big Grin] [Wink] ) emulation would be nice.. [Big Grin] and not some reaktor clone.. [Razz]

i realize all these are probably hard to code.. but wow [Eek!] i'd like em.. hehe

things will never be the "greatest"..

things will always progress, simply because many people are always looking for something different- and "better"...

and i use quotes over better and greatest.. because these words are entirely subjective [Wink]
kritikon
Posted: 30th June 2002 21:29
Shame to hear about ReFX and the Wavestation - I suppose Korg have the rights to it, but it seems a bit overjealous: Somehow I can't really imagine Korg ever revisiting the Wavestation again - they generally don't have the aim of going back to improve on their old ideas. (I suppose they gave the MS series a nod with the MS200 - but it doesn't sound anything like them, so it wasn't really a revisit - just coining in on the name of the old brand).

At least Roland occasionally cave in to consumer demand and rehash some oldie-but-goodies.

A real shame, as the Wavestation could be so much improved upon.
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