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KVR Forum [Instruments] » Archive » Instruments » July 2002 Index | KVRFA1
AuthorTopic: Kontakt or......
StuartMac
Posted: 30th July 2002 11:21
I'm just about to buy a software sampler for a dedicated audio PC (2GHz, 512meg RAM) running Cubase SX.

I'm probably going to buy Kontakt for it, and I was wondering how well it translated Gigasampler files.

I'm specifically about to buy the Garritan Strings library, and I'm not sure whether to get the Akai or Giga compatible version.

Any comments?
splattabreakz
Posted: 30th July 2002 11:49
bloody hell garitan strings is a lot of cashino! i hear that kontakt isnt really very good at doing big files and also that its no to good at giga either but i only heard it from this forum which isn't really a good place for useful info, just amusing banter.
pHuzZ
Posted: 30th July 2002 11:56
[splatz] but i only heard it from this forum which isn't really a good place for useful info, just amusing banter

[No No] hmmnnn . . . [No No] [No No]

. . . cheers [Crazy] rob
topaz
Posted: 30th July 2002 11:57
Disk streaming is coming to Kontakt..

so far no probs reading giga files.

quote:
Originally posted by splattabreakz:
bloody hell garitan strings is a lot of cashino! i hear that kontakt isnt really very good at doing big files and also that its no to good at giga either but i only heard it from this forum which isn't really a good place for useful info, just amusing banter.
luka2807
Posted: 30th July 2002 12:05
I wouldnt suggest you do Kontakt if your main goal is to have large realistic libraries working faultless. Kontakt is mangling tool for manipulation of samples. OTOH, Halion is better choice for simple but large libraries. Its disk streaming works very good and it uses small amount of CPU when working in RAW mode (filters and mods turned off)
splattabreakz
Posted: 30th July 2002 12:27
twas a joke phuzzball
pHuzZ
Posted: 30th July 2002 12:37
oops [Embarrassed] . . . guess i mustve switched my sarcasm detector off [Razz]

. . . cheers [Crazy] rob
dyndyn
Posted: 30th July 2002 12:37
luka2807 is right... [Smile]
topaz
Posted: 30th July 2002 12:53
true for now, but for those who want to put there trust in Kontakt to add disk streaming(I have plenty of trust in NI to fullfill this) then Kontakt is the choice..

again just an opinion..

quote:
Originally posted by luka2807:
I wouldnt suggest you do Kontakt if your main goal is to have large realistic libraries working faultless. Kontakt is mangling tool for manipulation of samples. OTOH, Halion is better choice for simple but large libraries. Its disk streaming works very good and it uses small amount of CPU when working in RAW mode (filters and mods turned off)
Polyhex
Posted: 30th July 2002 13:18
Kontakt does get my vote,,,but if something is designed for gigasampler, then why not consider gettting that to ensure no problem playback of such an expensive library....
jdg
Posted: 30th July 2002 13:33
even tho i'm a huge kontakt fan.. if you want giga style patches.. get giga or halion (for the disk streaming)

kontakt isn't that great with large patches unless you have 4GB of ram. i have 1GB and i still run out sometimes! YIKES.

good luck (buy both!)
StuartMac
Posted: 30th July 2002 15:31
"Buy both" is a possibility, but will they both run happily inside Cubase SX?
Kajiki
Posted: 30th July 2002 15:47
From my understanding, the Garritan Strings library's strength is Mr. Hopkin's programming of the gigasampler specific features. Since Kontakt cannot use such features, you should get a Gigasampler.

By the way, I use Kontakt and it can read giga files well.
soupdevil
Posted: 30th July 2002 16:40
You want GigaStudio160. Any other sampler will not do justice to complex orchestral samples and arrangements.

In fact, for the Garritan library, you'll want 1-5 dedicated Gigastudio PCs if you want to really get the most out of them.

Kontakt is excellent for what it does with filters, pitch manipulation, etc.

[ 30 July 2002, 19:44: Message edited by: steven dunston ]
StuartMac
Posted: 30th July 2002 20:22
OK - I get the impression the Garritan discs (even the lite version) are going to be a bit much.

Basically at the moment I have a Proteus 2000 with the Orch 1 card added, and an Akai s3000 with 32 meg RAM. I'm kind of sold on the Kontakt idea, so is it worth looking at other String packages?

Siedlaczek, possibly, or even an audio version?
Kajiki
Posted: 31st July 2002 02:10
It depends on what kind of music you will use strings for.
e.g., if you compose for films and you can afford them, getting gigasampler and the Garritan Strings library wouldn't be a bad idea.

Many people find the Symphony Strings from Sonic Reality impressive. There are some mp3s made with the SS in the Sonic Reality forum. I have the Dan Dean Solo Strings. It's a good one but needs some programming to play with Kontakt. There are also good free SF2 strings on the net.
StuartMac
Posted: 31st July 2002 07:07
So, just out of interest, is Kontakt still OK for playing multi-samples as an instrument (strings, piano, brass etc) or is it realy for looping facilities?
Kajiki
Posted: 31st July 2002 16:30
Yes. But then again, you should choose your sampler based on the style of music you do. Kontakt is perfect for, for instance, johann's music, who commented earlier. Check his stuff in the July Contest thread in the Music Cafe forum. If you want to do serious classical music, I would get a gigastudio.
afx23
Posted: 31st July 2002 16:53
remember Kontakt is version 1.xx still , giga's been out for years AND they are owned by a bigmutha of company now (tascam?). So if you re looking for something stable with a know good track record > go for giga.
PerryParkas
Posted: 1st August 2002 04:56
quote:
Originally posted by StuartMac:
So, just out of interest, is Kontakt still OK for playing multi-samples as an instrument (strings, piano, brass etc) or is it realy for looping facilities?
If all you need is a looping device, get the phatMatic pro from Bitshift. Kontakt can do a lot more than that. It can play multisamples (allthough Giga might be even better at it) and it can mangle your (multi)samples in ways not yet possible in other softsamplers.
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