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AuthorTopic: Atmosphere, interesting facts
Z
Posted: 5th December 2002 07:44
I just ordered my copy of Atmosphere today from Time+Space in UK, and I found the equpiment list used for Atmosphere.

Take a look at the software instruments list, and hey Eric, we'd love for you to upload all the soundbanks for the soft synths you used to create Atmosphere to Kvr... Very Happy

ATMOSPHERE EQUIPMENT LIST


Respect and admiration to all the designers who created the amazing array of instruments, processors, software and plug-ins that we used (and abused) in the creation of the sounds and development of our Atmosphere -Dream Synth Module™.

Hardware Synths:
Yamaha CS-80
Access Virus Indigo
Access Virus A
Access Virus B
Access Virus C
Studio Electronics modified Minimoog
Waldorf Q
Korg Z1 EVL
Korg Prophecy
Kawai K-5000 additive synth
Oberheim 4-voice SEM style analog synth
Roland Jupiter 8
Roland MKS-80 Super Jupiter
Roland MKS-70 Super JX-10
Roland S-760 samplers
Roland S-770 sampler
Roland JD-800
Roland JD-990
Roland D-550
Roland JP-8000
Roland JV-90
Roland JV-1080
Roland JV-2080
Roland XV-5080
Sequential Circuits Prophet 5
Sequential Circuits Prophet VS
Waldorf Wave
Waldorf Microwave
Waldorf Microwave XT
PPG Wave 2.2
ARP String Ensemble
Mellotron

Soft Synths:
Propellerheads Maelstrom
U&I Metasynth
Emagic EXS24
Emagic ES-2
Audioease thOnk
Cycling '74 PGS-1
Cycling '74 Shape Synth
Rhizomatic ABsynth
Native Instruments ABsynth
Native Instruments B-4
Native Instruments Pro-52
Native Instruments Reaktor
Waldorf Attack
Waldorf PPG 2.V
reFX JunoX2
Rumpelrausch Taips ZR1
Steinberg Model E
Antares Kantos


Hardware FX:
AMS RMX reverb
API 5502 equaliser
TC Electronics Fireworx multi-effects
Eventide DSP-4000
Lexicon PCM70/80/480 reverbs
Modified Boss Dimension C Chorus
Boss SE-70 multi-effects
Roland Dimension D
Roland RSP550 multi-effets
Roland SDE330 delay
Roland SDX330 chorus
Roland SRV330 reverbs
Roland SVC330 vocoder
Boss GL100 guitar driver
Innovonics compressors
Langevin passive equalizers
Quest custom analog mixers
Summit tube mic preamps

Plugins:
Audioease Altiverb
Audioease River Run
Arboretum Ionizer
Arboretum Hyperprism
Arboretum Hyperverb
Arboretum Vocoder
Arboretum Granulator
Emagic Phaser
Emagic Ensemble
Emagic Tape Delay
Smart Electronix Supaphaser
Smart Electronix Cyanide
Bias SFX Machine
Big Tick Hexaline
Big Tick Mabento
Big Tick Nasty Shaper
Bomb Factory Moogerfooger Lowpass Filter
Bomb Factory Moogerfooger Ring Modulator
Bomb Factory Voce™ Spin
Bubu Ztyle
Bubu Warper
Cycling '74 Average Injector
Cycling '74 Degrader
Cycling '74 Feedback Network
Cycling '74 Filter Taps
Cycling '74 Fragulator
Cycling '74 Frequency Shift
Cycling '74 Granular-to-Go
Cycling '74 Mangle Filter
Cycling '74 Monstercrunch
Cycling '74 Moving Filters
Cycling '74 Nebula
Cycling '74 Noizckippr
Cycling '74 Pendulum
Cycling '74 Ring Modulator
Cycling '74 Space Echo
Cycling '74 Spectral Filter
Cycling '74 Swirl
Cycling '74 Swish
Cycling '74 TapNet
Cycling '74 Warble
Cycling '74 Waveshaper
Digidesign Lo-Fi
Digidesign Recti-fi
Digidesign Sci-fi
Digidesign Vari-fi
GRM BandPass
GRM Comb
GRM Comb 5
GRM Delay
GRM Delay 24
GRM Doppler
GRM Freeze
GRM Pitch Accum
GRM Reson
GRM Shuffling
GRM ST Contrast
GRM ST Freq Warp
GRM ST Shift
IK Multimedia Amplitube
IK Multimedia T-RackS 24
Intelligent Devices FireoBall
Line 6 AmpFarm
Line 6 Echo Farm
MDA Combo
MDA Degrade
MDA Overdrive
MDA SubSynth
MDA Tracker
Motu PureDSP Spectral Effects
Ohm Force Ohmboys delay
Ohm Force Frohmage
Ohm Force Mobilohm
Ohmforce Hematohm
Opcode Vinyl
Opcode Vocode
Opcode Filter
Prosoniq North Pole
Prosoniq Orange Vocoder
Prosoniq Pi Warp
Serato Pitch 'N Time 2
Shiny-FX Spectral Monkeyage
Steinberg Grungelizer
Steinberg Metalizer
Waldorf D-Pole
Wave Mechanics SoundBlender
Waves +L1 Ultra Maximizer
Waves C1 Compressor
Waves C4 Multiband Compressor
Waves Doppler
Waves Enigma
Waves MaxxBass
Waves MetaFlanger
Waves MondoMod
Waves Paz
Waves Q10
Waves Renaissance EQ
Waves Renaissance Reverb
Waves Super Tap
Waves TrueVerb

Software:
Blank Software Alchemy
Arboretum HyperEngine
Antares Infinity
BIAS Peak audio editor
Digidesign Pro Tools 5.1 Free and TDM
Emagic Logic Audio Platinum 5
Metasynth
Emagic Sound Diver synth editor/librarian
Interval Music Transfer Station
MOTU Unisyn synth editor
Samplifier sample transfer software


Acoustic sources:
Glass Harmonica
Prepared Piano
Tibetan Bowls
Fender Rhodes
Electric Guitar
South American flutes
Orchestral String Section
Numerous Vocalists and Choral Groups
The sea and the waves
Some rays of sun and shadows of the moon
Teksonik
Posted: 5th December 2002 09:01
A legitimate question here.not starting an argument.Is it legal to sample a softsynth say Absynth and then use that sample in a "Rompler" if that is the correct term? Did royalties have to be paid to all the developers? I really want to know because this opens up some interesting creative possibilites.Thanks in advance. Very Happy
Rabid
Posted: 5th December 2002 09:31
I know there are legalities in sampling a ROMpler in an attempt to resale those samples but I think the borderline there is if you record the ROMpler in such a way as to recreate the sample set and remarket those, or if you sample a processed sound which is only based on that sample. Another issue is did the company making the ROMpler copyright those samples. This is the case with some older hardware units that depend on samples. From what I understand...

If you sample a pad on the Korg Triton and sell that sample you are ok. In some cases I believe the company asks that you get a waiver and credit the source of the sound.

If you sample each wave in the Triton sample set to either remarket those samples, or to produce and sell a machine or VSTi that uses those samples then you are breaking the law.

Some one may be able to clear this up a bit more.

Robert
spectrum
Posted: 5th December 2002 11:47
Sampling a hardware "ROMpler" or sample-based synth is not actually legal, without a license from the original manufacturer. Legally, this is considered a "derivitive work created from a sound recording copyright".

In the case of Spectrasonics and Atmosphere, we are in a unique situation, as Spectrasonics owns many of the copyrights used in Roland's hardware sample-based instruments. Spectrasonics licenses these samples to Roland.

Any other samples in Atmosphere created with instruments that are based on samples in a hardware device with copyrighted sound recordings (sample wavetable) on the list were either used with permission or we arranged a license. You'll notice for example that there is no Korg sample-based instruments used such as Trinity, or Triton.

Beyond the legal issues, there's the ethical issue of sampling someone else's patches. I feel really strongly about this, that it's totally uncool to sample someone else's work and sell it as your own. I have had this happen to me hundreds fo times and it's really lame. So I am very careful -even with DSP-based synths that are legal to sample and resell- to create my own unique works with them. Everything on Atmosphere is originally created, using the listed gear in our own individual way. That way even though we are legally clear, we are also being ethical too. This is particularly important, since we don't allow people to sample Atmosphere and sell or distribute the samples. It all comes down to two things:

• The Law -which is that it is not legal to sample "samples" (everything else is OK)

• Doing the right thing - don't sample someone else's work and sell it as your own, or give it away for free.

It's not really more complicated than that.

Best,

spectrum

PS. Most of the time, I create sounds on the fly and record them...I don't usually save them or keep patch banks on synths. I find that this approach keeps me fresh and inspired to keep creating new things.
Magpel
Posted: 5th December 2002 11:57
Hey Spectrum, what's the Korg Z1 EVL? I have and love a Z1 but know nothing of the EVL part... Is it, perchance, "EVIL"?
JohnVulich
Posted: 5th December 2002 12:15
spectrum wrote:
PS. Most of the time, I create sounds on the fly and record them...I don't usually save them or keep patch banks on synths. I find that this approach keeps me fresh and inspired to keep creating new things.


Interesting. How do you approach multi-sampling. Do you sample at every octave, fifth or more? Also do you find that synths require less multi-sampling than "real wolrd" instruments?

JV
spectrum
Posted: 5th December 2002 12:33
Ah...but that would be giving away my secrets now wouldn't it!

We have a pretty cool system, but that falls under the "secret sauce" area Cool Razz Very Happy

spectrum
jdg
Posted: 5th December 2002 12:49
most secret sauce is just ketchup and mayonase. Razz
. . . - - - . . .
Posted: 5th December 2002 12:58
jdg wrote:
most secret sauce is just ketchup and mayonase. Razz


Dont you have some QA work to do Razz Razz Razz Wink
e-modic
Posted: 5th December 2002 13:17
Magpel wrote:
Hey Spectrum, what's the Korg Z1 EVL? I have and love a Z1 but know nothing of the EVL part... Is it, perchance, "EVIL"?


HiHi

My Z-1 also doesn´t have an Evil fader or knob Sad

Why Spectrum´s ?


b.
dandridge
Posted: 5th December 2002 13:19
If you are into sampling keyboards there's an interesting utility developed just for this purpose. This prog (SampleMove) is supposed to automate the whole sampling process. Take a look at info for example at http://www.harmony-central.com/Newp/2002/SampleMove.html.
Has someone used this utility? Is it any good?
JohnVulich
Posted: 5th December 2002 13:34
dandridge wrote:
If you are into sampling keyboards there's an interesting utility developed just for this purpose. This prog (SampleMove) is supposed to automate the whole sampling process.


Thank's for the tip.
jdg
Posted: 5th December 2002 16:04
ner0z wrote:
jdg wrote:
most secret sauce is just ketchup and mayonase. Razz


Dont you have some QA work to do Razz Razz Razz Wink


ooooh that hurts....

Crying or Very sad
Mighty_Hero
Posted: 5th December 2002 16:41
QA work for triology???.............hmmm, I keep telling myself I will NOT get this, but I know as soon as the demos come out......... Crying or Very sad
jdg
Posted: 5th December 2002 16:51
i wish i worked doing QA for a soundware company..

but no.. i've been 'crossgraded' to QA from systems.. better than being jobless Smile
Mighty_Hero
Posted: 5th December 2002 16:57
Yeah I am hoping eric will want me to test triology...................OH BILLY would I piss myself!

I would also make a crap load of demos Cool ....eric eric.......... Wink
bluey
Posted: 6th December 2002 10:28
spectrum wrote:
Sampling a hardware "ROMpler" or sample-based synth is not actually legal, without a license from the original manufacturer. Legally, this is considered a "derivitive work created from a sound recording copyright".

Beyond the legal issues, there's the ethical issue of sampling someone else's patches. I feel really strongly about this, that it's totally uncool to sample someone else's work and sell it as your own. • The Law -which is that it is not legal to sample "samples" (everything else is OK)

• Doing the right thing - don't sample someone else's work and sell it as your own, or give it away for free.

It's not really more complicated than that.

Best,

spectrum



Unlike Dash who rip pure waveforms and samples and resell them, even with a claim to the name. A claim to a name which is misleading and deriderative of the orininal products. Good job William is in Brazil.
Hypertone
Posted: 6th December 2002 10:47
As long as a waveform is generated by synthesis it's legal. If it's a sampled waveform then it is not. That's my understanding of it.
Mr. Tunes
Posted: 6th December 2002 11:22
wow! I enjoyed reading that list

makes you realize just how important it is to use every synth and effect that is within your reach... never leave a stone unturned
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