| Author | Topic: A Moog Modular as VSTi !!!!?????? | |||
| crimsonwarlock | Posted: 11th December 2002 15:59 | |||
| Angus_FX | Posted: 11th December 2002 16:26 | |||
Courtesy of the Babelfish:-
======================== " rice field Isao, the yellow magic orchestra, the Kith * エマーソン and the バンゲリス, the ハンツ * JMA -, スティービー * wander - and the like, the MOOG moduration which the big * artists regularly use the specifications of that time that way, revives as the software * synthesizer. It consists the module which is similar to genuine MOOGIII C, it is possible to pursue the sound making with the patching by the cable. Of course, quality of the oscillograph and the filter is analyzed completely the True Analogic Emulation which the art rear corporation developed (in the TAE and patent application) with by the epoch-making technology which is said, has reappeared at the precision which until now is unparalleled. When the coming out sound is heard, in excessively with the worm which the MOOG seems thick the sound the degree liver it probably is to be able to make a foolish mistake. Also the enormous timbre library by the prominent artist and the programmer is in the midst of production advancing. January of 2003, at the winter NAMM which is held in Los Angeles formal announcement is planned. Please expect please. * Schedule specifications It consists total 32 thing modules. * 9 oscillographs +1 white / pink noise * 3 filters * slot (Four filters * type selective possibility) 24dB low-pass * filter 24dB high pass * filter 24dB filter coupler 12dB multiple mode * filter * 2 output VCA (2 envelopes * generator it includes) + 1 mixer mode (16 control VCA) * 2LFO * 6 envelopes * generator + 1 dual delay * trigger * 1 step sequencer (3×8 step) * 3 effectors - (Filter * bank, stereo * chorus, dual * delay) * 1 ヴァーチャル * keyboard (real time * controller attaching) * Mono mode / poly- mode (- 64 sounds) * Corresponding format VSTi, DXi, RTAS, HTDM and MAS Even with stand * alone enabled * Corresponding OS Windows2000, XP and MaccOs 9.x, MaccOs X * Price undecided " =================== Looking at the prominence of STORM on the site, I think maybe the "art rear corporation" is "arturia"? Gotta love that Babelfish... repeat after me:- "When the coming out sound is heard, in excessively with the worm which the MOOG seems thick the sound the degree liver it probably is to be able to make a foolish mistake. Please expect please." | ||||
| otherside | Posted: 11th December 2002 16:33 | |||
Now if someone would actually come out with a MemoryMoog Plus and a EMS Synthi AKS wed be in heaven!!!!!!
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| CapnLockheed | Posted: 11th December 2002 16:35 | |||
Yummm!! So many holes, so little time...he...he... Cheers.....CL | ||||
| otherside | Posted: 11th December 2002 16:39 | |||
heeee!! | ||||
| mistertoast | Posted: 11th December 2002 16:58 | |||
>>Yummm!! So many holes, so little time...he...he...
Hey, That's my slogan! | ||||
| otherside | Posted: 11th December 2002 17:10 | |||
| Funkybot | Posted: 11th December 2002 17:46 | |||
No way that thing can sound as good as it looks. But damn does it look nice | ||||
| realmarco | Posted: 11th December 2002 19:22 | |||
darn the link that the original poster are dead or no good Mac version, good | ||||
| bluey | Posted: 11th December 2002 20:05 | |||
Hey screenshot of the VSTI shows MOOG at the lower left. Either they break the law or they actually got official Moog endorsement, since the Name Moog is back with Robert Moog I believe. | ||||
| arrakeen | Posted: 11th December 2002 20:17 | |||
Yes indeed Angus! You can see the Arturia logo bottom right of the image in the link posted by otherside. http://www.idecs.co.jp/news/list/021210.html So, perhaps this IS an official Moog licence. | ||||
| bluey | Posted: 11th December 2002 20:23 | |||
uh I feel sorry for Aturia since this is stuff that shouldnt be on the net, and has taken the light out of its winter namm suprise. | ||||
| SonicVI | Posted: 11th December 2002 20:36 | |||
WOW Epoch making technology!
Daniel | ||||
| Kajiki | Posted: 11th December 2002 20:41 | |||
This Japanese company is just a local distributor. It says this synth was developed based on Aturia's audio engine called True Analogic Emulation. On another page, it says this synth is going to be released in Spring 2003. | ||||
| Moritz Morpheus MkIII | Posted: 11th December 2002 21:00 | |||
hehe, thx for the translation, mate! looks promising.. peace, moritz | ||||
| CoreTrooper | Posted: 11th December 2002 21:10 | |||
that will take up all my screen and then some | ||||
| AD80 | Posted: 11th December 2002 23:05 | |||
Spring 2003? But I want it now! | ||||
| endonyx | Posted: 11th December 2002 23:54 | |||
hmmm weird, i read a small announcement in a audiomagazine here (interface) were like six months ago wass stated that aturia was developing a modular synthesizer | ||||
| Zmies | Posted: 11th December 2002 23:55 | |||
"Please expect please." | ||||
| Ben [KVR] | Posted: 12th December 2002 00:59 | |||
| LlunaSol | Posted: 12th December 2002 01:16 | |||
Let's see, uhmm, well, hear, if it sounds better than VAZ ... Modular and already VSTi and with a new look on the way Well, probably there's room for everybody on the VST folder of our machines Cheers. | ||||
| Midiworks | Posted: 12th December 2002 01:46 | |||
Try this in the meantime !
http://mysite.freeserve.com/kdbanglia/index.html http://home.att.net/~j.leibold/index4.html you can try also reaktor and other modular programs cu Midiworks | ||||
| deWaverley | Posted: 12th December 2002 02:10 | |||
Yes, but be careful... "When the coming out sound is heard, in excessively with the worm which the MOOG seems thick ... it probably is to be able to make a foolish mistake." Now that's a sample I need for my collection.."The coming out sound of an excessively thick worm" (..maybe give Reg a call) ![]() ..again, I apologise. deW ![]() | ||||
| etherize | Posted: 12th December 2002 13:47 | |||
well Im really looking forward to this one....so I went and listened to the demo's of Storm so I could hear their patented analog emulation technology and was not too impressed...I hope the moog sounds better and the fact that is says moog maybe means Big Bob gave permission but we shall see soon...ooh an also an HTDM version yay.... | ||||
| Midiworks | Posted: 13th December 2002 01:25 | |||
Why the hell u just simply download from the links I posted !?
And those VSTis are FREE ! mIDIWORS | ||||
| JohnVulich | Posted: 13th December 2002 01:57 | |||
| Red | Posted: 13th December 2002 02:18 | |||
Yes indeed, I spoke to our insider up the pub who mentioned that Mr Bob Moog has indeed heard the MoogIII, been extremely impressed and emblazoned his name on it! Now thats pretty cool - its gotta be good.
Red | ||||
| whyterabbyt | Posted: 13th December 2002 02:32 | |||
Midiworks 2 quoth Why the hell u just simply download from the links I posted !?
And those VSTis are FREE ! 1) Because there's a 'mystique' associated with Moog emulations which gets people interested 2) No matter how good SynthEdit gets, stuff made with it is not a replacement for everything else. 3) Because I've already tried some of them and discarded them | ||||
| Midiworks | Posted: 13th December 2002 07:04 | |||
@whyterabbyt,
Let me tell you The Mogue from http://mysite.freeserve.com/kdbanglia/shop.htm is really quite good, and I am one of the oldies who had a Mini Moog ! Sure nothing to do with a modular system, I had the Roland Modular. Give these Synthedit Synth a try ! http://www.funkelectric.com/~cockaigne/ Compare the sound quality to any of you VSTi and then tell me again what you think ! CU Wink | ||||
| whyterabbyt | Posted: 13th December 2002 07:40 | |||
Ive tried the Land of Cockaigne stuff. Nearly kept PM4 but didnt. Would have kept Satyr if I didnt already have Triangle II and FreeAlpha. | ||||
| audiomiditweaker | Posted: 13th December 2002 07:54 | |||
Nice, nice, but when are developers going to stop EMULATING old Synths!?!?!??
Why not make a new Modular Hardware EMU? I'mean emulating is cool but emulate a new concept or more develop a new software synth not based on a old one.... Looks very yummy though....: ![]() | ||||
| electro | Posted: 13th December 2002 08:01 | |||
When they finally emulate them correctly. | ||||
| audiomiditweaker | Posted: 13th December 2002 08:14 | |||
So what exactly is incorrect? Is it possible at all to totally emulate electronic hardware just virtually on a computer? | ||||
| crimsonwarlock | Posted: 13th December 2002 08:22 | |||
Because of this ........
You see, as long as you (and I and everyone else) keeps drooling over it, there is a market so someone will produce it | ||||
| Z | Posted: 13th December 2002 09:28 | |||
Hopefully never.
Well, new soft synths are made all the time. In fact, there are over literally dozens more new synths and new synthesis methods than there are emulations of old ones. Look at Z3ta+, Pentagon I, all the freebies, the Linstuff, Absynth, especially Reakor, Albino, Vaz Modular, Atmosphere, Virsyn Tera, Plex, D'coda - the list goes on and on. These and more, are new synths, not modelled after vintage gear. Many people would'nt mind an authentic Virus, Supernova or a Wave XT emulation, but since these are AFAIK still being produced, I am pretty sure that Access, Novation and Waldorf wouldn't exactly like a software product which accurately emulate their hardware products at a fraction of the price. Even if one wished to acquire a license to do it or not. Granted, Synth1 is an exception since it's more or less a Nord Lead 2 clone, but it's a freebie and the author does not make any money from it. The reason vintage gear is popular today is because it's highly desired by most of us out there. You can easily pick up a Korg Triton and have a good time, but you can't make it sound like an authentic reproduction of a D-50 or a PPG Wave 2.3. On the other hand, D-50's and the 2.3's went out of production ages ago therefore Roland and Wolfgang Palm would not exactly lose any money if someone made a software clone of it. I like to think of it as maintaining a heritage, by "converting" vintage synthesizers to software, we make sure those distinct and unique sounds lives on into the future. Every synth has it's trademark when it comes to sound, and when people even today talk about Moog and Prophet 5 filters, it's because they sound damn good and because they are highly desirable today, even if we have Andromeda A6's, Viruses, Supernovas, OB-12's and more. Never change a winning formula, and if that formula for you is a Moog but you cannot afford one or more likely, can't get one, a software counterpart is and should be, highly desireable for anyone. This will be proven, if that Moog modular soft synth becomes a big hit, we all know there's a market for it. | ||||
| nuffink | Posted: 13th December 2002 09:42 | |||
http://www.kvr-vst.com/inst.php?inst=81 err... am I missing something here? | ||||
| Z | Posted: 13th December 2002 10:09 | |||
I'm not sure, actually? Yes, the PPG Wave 2.x has been released as a VSTi, but you still can't make a Triton sound like one, which was my point. And since it went out of production since uh, well before 1987 at least, Wolfgang Palm isn't loosing any money since there's a software counterpart. | ||||
| Z | Posted: 13th December 2002 10:12 | |||
Oh, I got your point. Call it slip of the fingers. | ||||
| bluey | Posted: 13th December 2002 10:34 | |||
Your know, if Bob Moog is personally endorsing this product, then this VSTi is REALLY something. The other reason for getting the emulation bang on is that well, this kit will not be around forever.
The real test for me is whether this sounds like makes sounds that sound like works of artists by Tomita, Jarre, Vangelis, Carlos, Tangerine Dream and George Harrison (yes George actually made one of the first electronic music records which people ignore though I have not heard it because it is so rare). These are the real sounds of this synth and not dance. BLuey. | ||||
| Tarkus | Posted: 13th December 2002 19:27 | |||
Crimson, what's that link in your post in the virtualsoundstudio forum right below the Moog modular link?: http://www.shinomiya.ne.jp/polymoog/index002.htm
The link doesnt' work (now) and I wanna know is there a Polymoog VSTi in the making If so, that would be great. Any links or information about that? | ||||
| Midiworks | Posted: 13th December 2002 23:43 | |||
Here is a Free MoogModular sytem ! Happy patching. http://mysite.freeserve.com/kdbanglia/mogue/moguemodular.htm CU Midiworks | ||||
| Bruce Bartlett | Posted: 13th December 2002 23:44 | |||
A couple of points here -- - Vangelis never used modular synths (or the Mellotron!); he found them far too cumbersome for his style. This is why the sounds on his early works are so cheesy -- but his performing techniques more than make up for this, proving once again that it's not what you got, but how you use it. - All of these artists -- especially Tomita and Carlos -- poured HUGE amounts of technical work into their productions. Their patches alone are incredibly complex, and then there's the staggering amount of work that they did on the multi-track side to build their masterpieces, one note at a time. This is why, despite doing the same sort of thing with the same sort of gear, Tomita and Carlos got totally different results that nobody has been able to imitate. They didn't do the relatively simple kinds of sounds that one gets with a standard polysynth. Listen to "Snowflakes Are Dancing" or "Sonic Seasonings" and you won't hear many sounds that you can easily determine the construction of. Even if this VSTi is capable of such sounds, I think a lot of folks will be disappointed when they discover that they can't just patch a couple of VCOs to a VCF and get Tomita's haunting synth soprano sound, or Carlos' icy "snow" effect. | ||||
| crimsonwarlock | Posted: 14th December 2002 01:14 | |||
It seems they took that page down. It was just another page announcing the Moog Modular, no PolyMoog in sight anywhere I'm starting to build a MemoryMoog soon though (I had it 90% finished in SyncModular, but will move the project to SynthEdit) | ||||
| JohnVulich | Posted: 14th December 2002 02:20 | |||
Try this link... http://www.idecs.co.jp/musicsoftware/storm/magazine/material/021210.ht ml | ||||
| whyterabbyt | Posted: 14th December 2002 07:24 | |||
Midirworks2; taken your advice and looking at Mogue. Its not what I was thinking of, so I apologise. Looks like a nice idea. | ||||
| pseuodonym | Posted: 15th December 2002 15:49 | |||
Emulating a moog is nothing new, one of the first decent VSTis made was Model E - which does just that. IMHO this modular synth is too fiddly to tweak, as you have to keep switching windows... | ||||
| topaz | Posted: 15th December 2002 16:31 | |||
yep that would make sense if Model-e didnt suck big time.
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