I have never realy got into ROMplers, having preferred up till now to use a sampler (which I feel gives more options to mangle sounds) and various synths.

I recently read the Computer Music review of Athmosphere and it said that you have to install the whole 1.5 gigs to you hard drive for it to work.

Is this true of all ROMplers such as Yellow Tools Culture (which I'm more interested in), Stylus and Sonic Synth?

I don't have the hard drive space to keep installing such large instruments - why can't they just play from the DVD or CD? I know CDs etc run slower than a harddrive but couldn't they employ some method of buffering to compensate?

yes, you have to install all the cds for stylus,triology, and atmosphere......one of the reasons you have to install all the cds is because the cds make a .dat (joiner) file in which the plug-ins use this dat file to work, also another reason is for piracy reasons.

What about the Yellow Tools ones - they are 9 gigs each that would be crazy

I think you can play these off the cd, or install.............but don't hold me to that....I thought I read that somewhere......have you checked there site?

I am the opposite. Since hard disk space is so cheap now, I'd rather have everything on hard disk

me too......just bought the new seagate baracuda 7200 rpm 80gb for 102$

Mighty_Hero wrote:

me too......just bought the new seagate baracuda 7200 rpm 80gb for 102$

You should hang out at www.techdeals.net. Along with www.pricewatch.com, I have got some great deals. I got the 80GB barracuda for $80 on one of those weekend markdown type things.

Sorry for taking this OT.

aMUSEd, these ROMplers are like 6 or 7 CDs each (and, if the Yellow Tools are really 9GB, that could be 15 CDs ). So playing them from CD would be like gaming in the latter days of the Atari or Amiga... "Please insert Disk 2 to continue..."

Angus_FX wrote:

aMUSEd, these ROMplers are like 6 or 7 CDs each (and, if the Yellow Tools are really 9GB, that could be 15 CDs ). So playing them from CD would be like gaming in the latter days of the Atari or Amiga... "Please insert Disk 2 to continue..."

They are 2 DVDs, but that would still be a PITA .....

and to think that a couple of years ago, H/W synth manufacturers were bragging about 64MB sound sets...

... and even 2 years ago or so people were concerned about N.I.s "enigma" file...

Sascha

Come on Amused. If you can afford all those ROMplers you can afford a couple of new HD's Its much better than having to keep switching cd's AND the computer also reads the files faster when they're on the HD. Switching cd's is so old-school. Reminds me of my old Akai S1000. Its 2003.

Actually I don't possess any ROMplers - I was merely considering one because Yellow Tools Culture sounds interesting (still thinking about Sonic Synth too but the Sampletank engine free demo put me off a bit).

At the moment I don't have a lot of harddrive space left so that is a serious consideration - I still can't believe you have to install 9 gigs for the YT Romplers - even with an 80 gig harddrive that's a lot of space if you had a few. As it is mines only 20 gigs and 18 of those are gone already.

Although I COULD get a larger harddrive at present I don't think its worth it because I'll still be stuck with my old 500k Athlon - it would be better for me to go the whole hog and get a new PC altogether.

I can attest to sonic synth sounds (the demo is sampletanks sounds mostly) vs yellow tools.......this is my point of view, but just ask some other ss users......WOW!
the sampletank VST is kind of subpar, but the sounds, taste like chicken

aMUSEd wrote:

Although I COULD get a larger harddrive at present I don't think its worth it because I'll still be stuck with my old 500k Athlon - it would be better for me to go the whole hog and get a new PC altogether.

Don't know - considering that you might be able to get some "outdated" (still new) HDDs smaller than, say, 60GB for a laughable price (just seen some 46GB IBM for 50 Euro, maybe that even was too expensive...) it might still be worth it. In case you only use it for samples it doesn't even have to be that fast.
At least that's what I will buy next (also thinking about updating the complete PC).

Cheers,
Sascha

hmmm...you might be right Sascha - I am getting a new soundcard in a few days (a second hand Audiophile) so maybe I should still try squeezing a bit more life out of the old PC for a bit longer by ading some more disk space too.

aMUSEd wrote:

I am getting a new soundcard in a few days (a second hand Audiophile) so maybe I should still try squeezing a bit more life out of the old PC for a bit longer by ading some more disk space too.

Did almost the same to my old PC (a pretty much rusty Celeron 466 that is) just recently - never regretted it.
IMO the thing is, HDD space will save you in moments when CPU usage is critical (you can use sampled versions of your favourite synth patches, you can mixdown things too). Almost like injecting some new life into that old CPU (for the expense of a cheap HDD and a few minutes of waiting for things to mix down...).
Also, you can NEVER have enough HDD space in general. If it doesn't suit you well in your current working environment any longer you could still use it as some intermediate backup (=mirror) medium for recent files and so on.
As said, that old Celeron does nothing but being my "mobile" (uh...) PC and serving as a cheap secondary file (copy that is) holder. Still worth having it!

Cheers,
Sascha

aMUSEd wrote:

At the moment I don't have a lot of harddrive space left so that is a serious consideration - I still can't believe you have to install 9 gigs for the YT Romplers - even with an 80 gig harddrive that's a lot of space if you had a few. As it is mines only 20 gigs and 18 of those are gone already. .

I completely agree with you on this one. 9 gigs for Culture ??! Isnt that more than Atmosphere? Culture must have 2500 patches! I dont know if i'd be willing to install 9 gigs of world percussion. SonicSynth was most definitely worth the 3.x gigs IMO.