Remember that VSTi that looked like a Nord Modular, is that still real, dead or just a hoax of some fancy work with photoshop ?

Bluey.

I was thinking about that the other day.. it was called Tempest, and it is a real program, I played around with the beta version which was standalone but it still needed alot of work.. haven't heard anything about it since though.

are you talking about this one?



The Tempest software modular synthesizer is a rich environment for sound synthesis which uses a model of a traditional analogue modular synthesizer to support a number of synthesis paradigms. More than an emulation of an analog modular synth, it will support sampling, additive synthesis, physical modeling synthesis, granular synthesis, as well as a full complement of effects modules.

http://www.vlabs-online.com/index.html

I understood that the alpha version is standalone and the commercial product will be available as VSTi and maybe DXi.

Wasn't that fuzz all about Klangformer?

Sascha

Well good luck to him, its taking the author rather longer than he expected.

From tempest's download page:

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A major new version of Tempest is in development. This version is expected in early 2003. Until the new version is ready, Tempest will not be available for download. We understand that users of Tempest will be disappointed. The new version of Tempest, however, will feature a number of important new modules, a redesigned user interface, and most importantly, vast improved sounds.

Klangformer appears to be available and yet not available. I'm not sure what's going on. I got grief over this before but it seems a tad expensive for a player that can't be programmed, 1024 patches in the synth engine for $120. The actual synth is substantially more expensive.

Considering there's no demo it's hard to get enthusiastic and I like jason's stuff. Rebel was one of the first plugins I purchased.

x_bruce wrote:

Klangformer appears to be available and yet not available. I'm not sure what's going on. I got grief over this before but it seems a tad expensive for a player that can't be programmed, 1024 patches in the synth engine for $120. The actual synth is substantially more expensive. Considering there's no demo it's hard to get enthusiastic and I like jason's stuff. Rebel was one of the first plugins I purchased.

I cannot see the player anymore...
Seems to be, that they have changed their distribution politics.
Beta testing was finished in November last year.

Perhaps it will be freeware anywhen, like their other stuff?

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Wow - for a "hoax" this sure looks nice - pity I can't dl the alpha test version

reminds me a bit of that Creamware modular synth I read about somewhere - what's it called - is it Luna or something?

The site says its being writen in assembly language - like Synth 1 I believe - that should make it very efficient in terms of memory and CPU

I was looking forward to this coming out - no news on the site yet - anyone know anything, it looks nice

I also had the alpha version a while back, and it showed quite alot of promise. It seems the download wasn't available fr a great length of time, so maybe I was just in the right place at the right time.

I contacted Vlabs with some thoughts on the alpha version - and it seems they didn't get alot of feedback (sounds like not that many d/led it, or did, but didn't respond, which is a shame)

It wasn't a CPU hog, was very flexible - I seem to remember there being some facility to use your separate VST FX plugins within the Tempest modular synth itself (or at least that was the next step in their implementation). The user interface I thought was quite lovely, and very intuitive - nothing too flashy, but obvious what you were doing in terms of patching - it was a tad fiddly in that you had to set up your midi inputs etc (instead of Tempest doing it automatically) but I suppose that might have been to give you more flexibility for using it mono, poly, multichannel or whatever.

The actual filters and oscillators weren't overtly fat or analogue though, which from the reply they gave me was something they were working on. I think they were testing the water with their interface and useability maybe more than the sound itself. Obviously it was an alpha, so it wasn't perfect, but it showed an awful lot of promise - very similar to the Nord Modular in terms of how you patch thing together and call up modules etc, and already a good set of modules - esoteric things like slew rate limiters etc (never was 100% sure what they are actually... but there you go). And they had plans for full specs - sampling, FM modules etc...etc.

I think I might still have it on my PC actually- I've not used it recently, but I don't think I deleted it ( it was only stand alone, so not too much use as it was... but as mentioned, it was planned to be VST etc when finished.)

It wasn't a hoax.....it could turn out to be a very good modular indeed if they improve the basic DCOs and DCFs. I should go over there and see how it's going really.

aMUSEd wrote:

Wow - for a "hoax" this sure looks nice - pity I can't dl the alpha test version reminds me a bit of that Creamware modular synth I read about somewhere - what's it called - is it Luna or something?

Nah not Luna.

Do you mean the card that came complete with a modular? That was Elektron or something.

It was basically the Modular synth from the Creamware platform which is now at version 3. The concept of Elektron was similar to PowerSampler. A card dedicated to one thing - the modular synth. However, the Modular synth is available for purchase for all Creamware cards running the SFP Platform.

Take it from me - Modular III is yummy.

The Luna is a card by Creamware. The Electra was also a card by Creamware. The Modular II or III is a modular synth that works on the Creamware platform, be it Luna, Pulsar II, or PowerPulsar. Granted, I wouldn't want to try to run the Modular III on a 3 DSP card though. What polyphony? Anyway, the filters were very tasty and smooth compared to anything else I've used. I never played much with it, because it was such a pain in the arse to load in patches and new modules in it. I use the Lightwave much more often.

Devon

Re Klangformer ...

As it happens I wrote to ijdevelopments recently to let ijason know there was some good chat here about his new synth.

This is the reply I received:

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Klangformer is NOT available for the public. Also there is no commercial or public release planned. For various reasons we have frozen our investigations into the plugin scene, ESPECIALLY TO THE KVR COMMUNITY.

ijason then goes on to say that Klangformer is a private development, with only beta tester communications.

So, KvRers ... I wouldn't get too excited about getting hold of Klangformer yet

That Tempest Alpha looks If I had the Alpha I'd give plenty of feedback, but I guess the guy's moved on from there.
The Klangformer thing is really at rest, why bring it up again people? I enjoyed the synths too mind.

I have it somewhere on a cd. It looked very promising with tons of modules but it crashed a lot. I totally forgot about this one but I'd sure like to see it finished one day.

kevvvvv - i also emailed !j recently trying to scrounge a klangformer for a contest prize - no response - and from what you say doesnt look like there ever will be


slainte rob

Caleb wrote:

Do you mean the card that came complete with a modular? That was Elektron or something. It was basically the Modular synth from the Creamware platform which is now at version 3. The concept of Elektron was similar to PowerSampler. A card dedicated to one thing - the modular synth. However, the Modular synth is available for purchase for all Creamware cards running the SFP Platform. Take it from me - Modular III is yummy.

yeah that's the one i meant - i read a review of it ages ago in computer music - semed like a good idea to have a synth with a dedicated card.

i do hope they get it together with that Tempest synth - can't wait to try out the next beta or alpha - whatever

btw - why are those klangformer people being so bitchy? don't they want to make money/customers/friends? they were also developing some really amazing looking synths a while back

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btw - why are those klangformer people being so bitchy? don't they want to make money/customers/friends? they were also developing some really amazing looking synths a while back

I believe they got involved in a particularily nasty thread here with lot's of unpleasantnesses.
Heard about it a while back but have'nt seen it.

Kind of when the "Ganymed/Vivaldi" guy took a lot of heat over loosings his job because of pirating. If you remeber that one.

the Tempest alpha was a time limited demo. So, If somebody still have it, it won't work anymore, because of the time limitation.