This i an ad! Hahahaha! I just wish I could afford more plugs, but I have to manage with the demo for now...

http://www.arturia.com/en/demos.lasso

/ea

First contact with the beast, Kontakt should I say iconwise ...
Ahem ... well if you guys don't change those knobs I see no point in purchasing it since I have no idea of the values !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'll wait for a " workable " version ...
BTW have you got plans for a real modular and not a patchable ?

But GGRRRRRREAT sounds !!

well, it looks pretty cool with the wires and all. sounds nice too, although I don't have a clue how close to the real thing it sounds. But it's a bit pricey to be monophonic. I think it'd be fun to mess with the demo simply for the education of learning how to program synths. It's all kind of laid out there.
But, it did freeze up on me in Orion, when I was playing a sequenced patch, and turned one of the filter knobs. Don't know to blame that on my computer, Orion, or the Moog, though.

Hi Bluedad I vote Orion(ooops here come the Orionauts to kick my a**).It is a bit out of my price range at the monent but it is 64 voice polyphonic.Does look like a patch tweakers dream.Going to check out the demo tommorow

Update : WOWWW !!
My KRK monitors have never spat that kind of sounds !
Please, make readable knobs !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Preset Perverter wrote:

Please, make readable knobs !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Have you tried right-clicking ?? Shows both the name of the knob + current value.

Cheers
travisdk

Heard it. Ordered it. Nuff said.

It's the value of the knobs ... not their names ... unless you tweak, I have no idea ... not even a guess ... worst case ever !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Are the values of the knobs really that important? Isn't what you hear more important?

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it is 64 voice polyphonic.Does look like a patch tweakers dream.Going to check out the demo tommorow

ok, my mistake must've been the patch I was playing.

Charlie, I will take that as a joke !!!

Shocking!

This synth is the best Moog Emu I heard until now. There are several patches that are amazingly convincing to me. I never owned a Moog but I remember certain things very well. A lot of the things that gave me goose bumps in the past when I heard Moogs are here again!
I'll check the demo more in depth but it seems as if I don't get around this thingy... Wow.

Anyone using Protools? I can't figure out how to install the synth!?!?! It asks me if I want to install the RTAS version. I click on the RTAS box, then it asks for my plugin folder, I choose the proper one. When I boot up Protools, I get a Moog Modular V error!!! I can use it in stand-alone mode. But I want to see if it's stable in PT.

BTW, this plugin sounds AMAZING!!!!!!

Readable knobs....What are you on about????There is a white dot on the outer edge of the rotaries,just look.Its exactly the same as the real thing, anyone who has used even a MiniMoog would see that. Sound.....Best Moog EMU????? not Even close to the MINIMAX the only 100% exact moog (as used by Hans Zimmer,read Sound on Sound interview a couple of months ago),however you do need the SFP to run it,it also has John Bowens 100% exact P5 ,fully endorsed by Wine Country Sequential.

Yeah, sure it's blatant ...
I don't care about original GUI design, I want a workable UI !!
I hope, they will release an alternate UI, not faithful to the original : eg replace the tiny white dot by a medium red or blue one ...
I know, I know ...

coldmachine wrote:

Readable knobs....What are you on about????There is a white dot on the outer edge of the rotaries,just look.Its exactly the same as the real thing, anyone who has used even a MiniMoog would see that. Sound.....Best Moog EMU????? not Even close to the MINIMAX the only 100% exact moog (as used by Hans Zimmer,read Sound on Sound interview a couple of months ago),however you do need the SFP to run it,it also has John Bowens 100% exact P5 ,fully endorsed by Wine Country Sequential.

Hi coldmachine,

Yes, best Moog emu I've heard. Maybe I get convinced by Minimax when I play it. The audio demos I heard so far sound good but the Moog Modular V sounds way better (also more moogish to me) than what I heard until now from the Minimax. Are you a little associated with Creamware or do you only believe in name dropping? Yes, Hans Zimmer endorses it so it can't be wrong...

Can I assume you mean "Thanks for pointing that out to me" ?

bjongo Im not involved with CW.I own a MiniMoog and MemoryMoog.How the hell can you say what is more Moog like if you dont or never have owned one?This VSTi is way short.Like NI said of thier Pro 52/53 "Its ok for the people we sell to,It'll do them as they dont know the difference" which is why JB made his own

coldmachine wrote:

bjongo Im not involved with CW.I own a MiniMoog and MemoryMoog.How the hell can you say what is more Moog like if you dont or never have owned one?This VSTi is way short.Like NI said of thier Pro 52/53 "Its ok for the people we sell to,It'll do them as they dont know the difference" which is why JB made his own

Hey coldmachine,

why shouldn't I be able to say so? I don't own a Ferrari, Porsche or Mercedes. But I'm able to distinguish them, come on... A little more estimation of my intelligence and abilities would be appreciated.

Another way: Have you ever had goose bumps because of a certain sound? Did you ever recognized this certain sound somewhere else and got goose bumps again? That's what I'm talking about.
Certain characteristics are there in the MMV that ALWAYS grabbed me when listening to certain Moog sounds. That's what is impotant to me. Not if some Moog owner says that the replica isn't close enough. Minimax didn't grab me like MMV. Simple, eh?

MiniMoogs are differing to a certain amount from one another. I heard (and played) several of them and they are very different from one another in terms of these grabbing characteristics. E.G. the one that NI owns doesn't have that much of this special growl than e.g. the one that Eberhard Schoener owned has. Maybe Creamware just copied the "wrong" Mini in terms of the things that grab me? It seems as if Arturia (to whom I'm not associated) did some of these things right.
You got my point I guess.

Hmm. Most of my experience is with software synths, so I can't say how "Moog-like" this is. It sounds good, but for me it's a bit over-priced. The bar is getting lifted all the time at a lower price bracket (Anamark, VAZ Plus etc) and while this offers a lot, I'm not quite convinced enough to buy it. Yet. But I'll keep playing with the demo and who knows?

Your sports car analogy is totally irellevant as it deals only with visuals.Regarding Minimax,you said you havent played it so how can you comment.Also regarding CW copying a specific MM,It is obvious that you have no understanding how it was created at all.It was done with a circuit modelling and analysis technique not sound comparison so the point you make could not be more wrong.Never owned a mmoog never payed the max you cannot judge.Dont get me wrong the syth sounds good but it doesnt "do what it says on the tin"
Its nothing to do with CW cards its the DSP coders.Waldorf did it with the PPG almost exact ,Mini max exact,JBs Prophet exact,FM7 does it well too.As i said of NI,the programme to a price for thier market.

coldmachine wrote:

Your sports car analogy is totally irellevant as it deals only with visuals.Regarding Minimax,you said you havent played it so how can you comment.Also regarding CW copying a specific MM,It is obvious that you have no understanding how it was created at all.It was done with a circuit modelling and analysis technique not sound comparison so the point you make could not be more wrong.Never owned a mmoog never payed the max you cannot judge.Dont get me wrong the syth sounds good but it doesnt "do what it says on the tin" Its nothing to do with CW cards its the DSP coders.Waldorf did it with the PPG almost exact ,Mini max exact,JBs Prophet exact,FM7 does it well too.As i said of NI,the programme to a price for thier market.

You're very sure of your, subjective, judgements aren't you.

Coldmachine : you could have pointed it to me ... the dots are so tiny, I could have easily missed them ...
I've sent an email to Arturia ...
Concerning the debate : is this the real thing or not ? etc .... etc ... etc
I have nothing to say !! I don't want to be involved !!!

coldmachine wrote:

Your sports car analogy is totally irellevant as it deals only with visuals.Regarding Minimax,you said you havent played it so how can you comment.Also regarding CW copying a specific MM,It is obvious that you have no understanding how it was created at all.It was done with a circuit modelling and analysis technique not sound comparison so the point you make could not be more wrong.Never owned a mmoog never payed the max you cannot judge.Dont get me wrong the syth sounds good but it doesnt "do what it says on the tin" Its nothing to do with CW cards its the DSP coders.Waldorf did it with the PPG almost exact ,Mini max exact,JBs Prophet exact,FM7 does it well too.As i said of NI,the programme to a price for thier market.

Hey coldmachine,

It's funny how you disqualify me. Actually it seems more that you want to be right because you set the rules. You didn't even try to understand my synth argumentation. The only thing you were able to "disqualify" was my "sports car" comparison. Sorry, but that's a little too low level for me.

I don't want to argue like that. In fact I don't want to argue cause it's not arguing but personal preference. If you think you're better qualified to talk about Moogs, go ahead.
One last try: I don't own a Neve console. But I used it. I'm an audio engineer. I think I qualify to talk about Neve EQs and I think that I can compare it's sound to other EQs. Same with synths.
Have fun with your Moogs.

Edited, just a typo which I try to avoid.

O.K. we'll leave it at that.No hard feelings at all i hope

coldmachine wrote:

O.K. we'll leave it at that.No hard feelings at all i hope

Hey coldmachine,

no, definitely not. It's OK for me.


All the best.

All kissed and made up......

Does the "added noise" mentioned in the Demo restrictions distract too much from the sound?, what a silly thing to do..!
Im not even going to bother downloading it with this.

coldmachine wrote:

.....Also regarding CW copying a specific MM,It is obvious that you have no understanding how it was created at all.It was done with a circuit modelling and analysis technique not sound comparison so the point you make could not be more wrong......

Now hold it right there. Do you really believe that anyone would use circit modeling to copy a synth and NOT listen to the result? Circuit modeling may be the first step, but your ears tell you how close you are, if you totaly screwed up somewhere, and if you need to continue to fine tune the model.

Robert

I've just had a play with the Arturia demo and all I can say is wow what a blast to program.I don't care if it sounds like the real thing or not-it sounds good to me and that's all I care about.Is it worth the money?Well it's more than I want to pay for a vsti at this point in time but after hearing what it can do in the hands of a patch master like Scot Solida it's hard to give a convincing argument that it's overpriced.Unfortunately it kills my old cpu and caused several crashes in Orion-all cpu lockups.If you like to patch program and you've got the cpu power this synth is for you.
I've also had a go with the VazPlus Demo.A short review-great sound,low cpu,great value,probably one of the next vsti's I will purchase.
In my humble opinion these are two different instruments although capable of creating some of the same types of sounds.It's hard to argue against either one.

IMHO the Modular-V sounds very nice, perhaps not exactly like a "real" moog (is this really soooo important?), but good enough for a VSTi-analog!
From all analog VSTi simulations it is for me still the best.
But it is not easy to program with all the knobs and cables! You have to look long in the manual for it...

The price is not too high, for such a big thing!
Fine, that the demo comes so fast! But less fine are the heavy disturbances during the play, is a demo without load and save not enough!? The Oddity demo was at this point much better!

So, anyone have the actual program yet? If now, who's first?

Robert

Rabid wrote:

So, anyone have the actual program yet? If now, who's first? Robert

It ships on March 5th. I ordered mine on March 1st at 1200 CET, so I hope to receive it on Saturday the 8th...with plenty of time to play