Well while it seems quite good, I was able to produce some nice stacked sounds and splits. Since this is the first release, here are some comments:

a) You can make icons but these are too big, so should have the option of making smaller icons.

b) Cannot make the window bigger so it gets full very quickly, should make the window as big as you like and have the option of horizonal and vertical scroll bars.

c) No Mixer, would be nice to set the volume of each VSTi in a mixer instead and have the option of busses for fx on the mixer. Would also be good share the same fx like reverbs etc.

d) Chorder should have the option of looking like a keyboard.

e) When deleting some vstis had access violation error pop up.

f) Left click on icon should have presets option.

g) Had 3 Crystals defined, but suddenly I could not open them again.

Well its still great and does more than spark for setting up multiple vsti and fx environments. But it is still only a first release.

Anybody else got any comments

Regards,
Bluey.

thanks bluey, I have planned 2 new releases for this month (mid and end).

a) The code is already in there, I just need to add a % selector in the GUI (grab 25% of org size etc). Coming up.

b) eXT will have both optional scrollbars AND a resize handle. Not all host supports resizing from the plug-in side yet, but I think it's just a matter of time before they do.

c) I have already designed a dynamix ch mixer with unlimited aux's. No inserts, cause you don't really need them. The mixer can be skinned and you can make presets of it with different GUI/bitmaps. Like a 8ch/2send silver skin. Coming up.

d) Your not the first to ask for a keyboard mode. I have planed this and more (strumming!)

e) I'll check it out

f) I was thinking about making the icons (optionally) interactive, and put a preset selector in/on it or something. Presets on left/right click would be cool too. I'll see what I can do.

g) I'll check it out

Well, I got another 200 items on my todo list. What I do first realy depends on the kind of feedback I get, what ppl want...

cheers
jorgen

Hi Jorgen!

Great thing it sure is, energyXT!
Seems like I'll have to get this very soon!

As far as the adding of features is concerned a mixer would be very handy as well as preset handling!
The arpeggiator and chorder are very cool, too. Being able to use MIDI CC in some way would be another veeery nice feature... Perhaps even LFO and ENV modules for modulating those?
man that would rule!

Great work!
Cheers, Jo

I'd want this if there was a midi humanize function. I suppose it would introduce time lag only, but this would do me.

Is it possible with this plugin to define several chords and switch between them with a vst controller ? That's something i've been looking for.

Jorgen - energyXT is amazing !!
Bluey - you'll find a free mixer plugin here: http://www.subtek.info/

Eh cool thanks, this Mixer is working great !

I'm working on it now, building some madness with multiple crystals and fx, sounds like or better than Atmosphere.

Bluey.

THK: Thanks for the mixer link! I din't even know it existed, and it's something I had been looking for.

As for EnergyXT, well...When the first EnergyPro came out, I felt it was the most fun I had had with a plug-in. I still use it all the time. Now, Jorgen comes along with EnergyXT and it just blows me away! It is truly inspiring. The first time I fired it up, it inspired a new song, and that is beyond any price I could offer. Great work, as always, Jorgen, and thanks for continuing to devote your time and energies (!) to fueling the flames of our creative fires.

heh - ill tell you what - im glad i kept on pestering jorgen a while back about how the ideal sequencer would be something like a combination of massiva and bidule


fantastic stuff !!!

slainte rob

I have been waiting for this for a while. Downloaded the demo 2 minutes ago. Should be fun to try it.

prog

Oh, Progfusion, you are going to love it! You can play entire Klaus Schulze songs from a single key...

I am already discussing that. Fairly inuititive too. Is there documentation anywhere? I haven't really tried to find any yet

OMFG! EnergyXT is rocking my world!
I've long envied the patching you can do in Buzz, Bidule, Audiomulch etc. and wanted that kinda flexibility in Cubasis, Fruityloops etc., whilst still maintaining an intuitive GUI. I do like Chainer, but I find routing in a 2D space with patch cords/cables much more intuitive - build up some crazy networks!

credit card is out the wallet - great work Jorgen!
regards,
dunk

PS - Is a VST effect version possible? it would be great for experimenting with stacks/networks of effects
regards,
dunk

Oblagon wrote:

Is it possible with this plugin to define several chords and switch between them with a vst controller ? That's something i've been looking for.

Don't think you can do that (yet). What you CAN do is define 'modulator' keys which contain chord information. When you open the default Chord machine you see a horizontal grid and a number. That number corresponds to amidi key (C1) in the case of 36. Playing that key doesn't make any sound, what it does is select the corresponding chord pattern. Then playing any other key triggers that chord pattern. If you click 'new' you can add another chord pattern. This should be mapped to 37 (C#1). One note is highlighted, this is the root note. Now you can switch on notes above and below this to play whatever chord pattern you want. For exmple switch on the 4th, 7th, and 11th notes above the root note. Now play C#1. Once you've done that you should be able to trigger a major7th chord by playing any other key.

Hope that makes sense

dunk wrote:

PS - Is a VST effect version possible? it would be great for experimenting with stacks/networks of effects

I believe this has already been asked for, and Jorgen is on the case

Shif.

Okay I'm seeing slight weirdness, less with EnergyXT than with EnergyPro...

Energy works fine in Sonar via VST-DX, or Sonar via Chainer (which loads under VST-DX).
EnergyPro crashes Sonar if loaded with VST-DX, but can be loaded fine in Sonar via Chainer.
EnergyXT loads fine under VST-DX, (and Chainer), but if Energy or EnergyPro is loaded into it, it crashes Sonar.

whyterabbyt wrote:

Okay I'm seeing slight weirdness, less with EnergyXT than with EnergyPro... Energy works fine in Sonar via VST-DX, or Sonar via Chainer (which loads under VST-DX). EnergyPro crashes Sonar if loaded with VST-DX, but can be loaded fine in Sonar via Chainer. EnergyXT loads fine under VST-DX, (and Chainer), but if Energy or EnergyPro is loaded into it, it crashes Sonar.

That's odd: I've been using EnergyPro in SONAR with the FXpansion VST-DX for some time now, and have yet to have ever crashed.

Yeah, I'm sure I had one of the earlier versions of EnergyPro working fine, but more recent ones definitely havent...

Quote:

When deleting some vstis had access violation error pop up.

I get this with the Virsnth Terra

but all in all very good thing this energy.
I like to play around with it.

But the shortest notes are 16 or I´m I wrong ???

Can´t programm patterns with 32 ???

And an random function for composing patterns like in Massiva would be nice...for the lazy Dudes like me...lol

Rabbyt - I can confirm that crash (partly). I can load energy pro fine in Sonar with the adapter. I can load EnergyXT fine in Sonar with the adapter.

But, if I load EnergyXT in Sonar, then Energy Pro inside that, I get a crash, citing the adapter sysfile.

Jorgen - any ideas? I can email an XP error report if it helps, but there's quite a lot of it.

Energy Pro 1.6, FX-VST adapter 4.1 (?), Sonar 2.2, EnergyXT 1.0

Having fun with EXT ,

Steve T

Spent about 20 minutes with it. Haven't figured out the MIDI patcher yet (in terms of zones), as in I could not get a split going the way I do with crystal, but then I haven't spent much time with it either. The ARP is GREEEEEEEEEEEEEAT. XT in chainer is really cool ... talk about complexe MIDI and layers

prog

thanks

los of great suggestions too, my new todo list is taking shape. Looks like a mixer is most wanted (my personal first choise too), as well as midi lfo and some kind of envelope (in the audio chain perhaps). I have a few ideas on the chorder but that'll be a suprise. I know Shifrin knows more chords than I know english words , so when I've finished with the preset handling in v1.1, I guess we have some cool chord presets coming(shif?).

Over to the more buggy stuff, I've noticed there are some errors on deleting VST and energyPRO crashing when loaded thru energyXT and the VST adapter. I'm on it.

jorgen

Jorgen,

Is there documentation on XT around, or do I get that post registration. I haven't found any yet.

prog, I'm on top of it (the docs). Should be out in beginning of next week. I'll try to make them as tutorial-ish as I can.

jorgen

Hello Jorgen,

It looks like you can't help being such a creative guy. That's a great an unique piece.

I have tried it a few minutes in Orion. It seems to work OK in general (I was able to produce arppegio and chords) but I noticed a few things :

a - XT windows seem to be always sitting on top even if you click on a larger window below them.
b - I can't see how to get the midi patcher to do something noticable
c - I don't understand the labels on the left side of the arpeggiator, nothing seems to happen as I click on them.
d - I loaded EP-station as a VST in the chain and I could not have acces to the on board factory presets.


Cheers


PA

Oops. Never mind. I found it.

Robert

jorgen wrote:

prog, I'm on top of it (the docs). Should be out in beginning of next week. I'll try to make them as tutorial-ish as I can. jorgen

Great

Thanks.

I should be registering by tonight

prog

jorgen wrote:

so when I've finished with the preset handling in v1.1, I guess we have some cool chord presets coming(shif?).

Already got a list of 30+ common and not so common chords Just waiting for the preset loading/saving!

PA wrote:

b - I can't see how to get the midi patcher to do something noticable

OK, I'll try to explain this one! You have 8 outputs with the midi patcher. These are listed vertically. Each output can output the incoming midi data (possibly transposed) based on the settings it has to a different input (or the same if you want!). An example might clarify this, say you want midi notes that have a velocity of 0-63 to be played by one VSTi, and notes 64-127 to be played by a different VSTi. In the midi patcher window, along the first row, set the 'v.up' value to 63 (k.low,k.up and v.low,v.up = Low Key,High Key and Low Velocity,High Velocity). Now on the second row set the 'v.low' value to 64. Now connect the midi out port 1 to one VSTi and the midi out port 2 to another VSTi. So, any notes that are below 64 in velocity get played by VSTi1 and anything above gets played by VSTi2. Does that make sense?! Hope so. You can do a LOT of things with this!

PA wrote:

c - I don't understand the labels on the left side of the arpeggiator, nothing seems to happen as I click on them.

To change the labels you click and slide your mouse up and down. They work in a similar way to the labels in the midi patcher. You can create different arpeggios and have them triggered by notes of different velocities or keys. Or indeed notes on different midi channels.

Jorgens docs will hopefully clear this up

Shif.

Thanks for tips Jorgen I will try them out right away.

Cheers

PA

thanks for the explanation Shifrin ( i think i understand ) i think controllers would work better here.

Woah - Progfusion, you're right about the Chainer/EnergyXT combo. Truly an unholy communion (=good). Using the midi splitter and "chainer wrapped" synths, effects etc means you can midi control virtually any parameter on anything all at the same time. Add a couple of arps and chorders into the mix and you can play a boatload of stuff live with one finger and it sounds like an epic

With midi control on the chainer levels too means we don't have to wait for EnergyXT mixing (though that's going to be great when it comes ).

Steve T

Steve T wrote:

Woah - Progfusion, you're right about the Chainer/EnergyXT combo. Truly an unholy communion (=good). Using the midi splitter and "chainer wrapped" synths, effects etc means you can midi control virtually any parameter on anything all at the same time. Add a couple of arps and chorders into the mix and you can play a boatload of stuff live with one finger and it sounds like an epic With midi control on the chainer levels too means we don't have to wait for EnergyXT mixing (though that's going to be great when it comes ). Steve T

Yep,

Haven't had much DAW time lately, but spend about 30 minutes just building splits and chains using Chainer and XT. What a combo

Just got Massiva with EnergyPRO and EnergyXT. It's the dog bollox! I'm using it with Sonar via FXpansions adapter.

A few questions:

1. When I use a sustaining sound with the arpeggiator (say for a bass line) the first note in the arp pattern sustains and doesn't cut off like the rest of the notes in the pattern do. I'm inputting a one bar event into Sonars piano roll on different keys to make the arp play the bass line which is four bars long. Everytime a new bar starts the first note in the arp pattern sustains until the next note kicks in - it's driving me nuts. How do I control the length of the first note in the arp pattern so it doesn't sustain?

2. When will EnergyXT become DX & DXi compatible?

3. If I stop the song before the EnergyXT midi events in my sequencer have finished the sounds & patterns play on unless I replay the song from the begining and wait until it has finished. This is a bummer when trying to edit midi events in the EnergyXT midi track of Sonar. I think an 'all notes off' command is needed to be sent to EnergyXY when the sequencer stops. Is EnergyXT able to receive this?

4. I'm also unable to load EnergyPRO into EnergyXT for some reason. Sonar just exits when I try will this be fixed?

5. Is it possible to control synth parameters via midi when using them in EnergyXT? I'm using EnergyXT in Sonar so I still want to control midi parameters either in EnergyXT or in a Sonar track.

6. Separate outs for each synth would be a good but I think you're making a mixer so that would do.

This is an excellent synth and I'm really in love with it (so much I could marry it ) in such a short time. I'm sure a lot of the issues I mentioned above are fixable. So I look forward to the updates.

RE: mixer

Has anybody tried the CMX844 from Subtek?

http://www.subtek.info/

Thanks I'm writing down all suggestions and bug reports.

jorgen

Very nice and useful plugin.

I have remarked a strange behaviour testing XT in Chainer and Logic 5: When having minimized XT and reopening it, I can´t open a VST- or Midi-shortcut in it anymore.

Anyhow, now it´s time to finally purchase Massiva for only 10$ more than for EnergyXT alone.

Dont forget if you have this month's CM you can get a $20 discount on Massiva... makes it cheaper than XT on its own...

whyterabbyt wrote:

Dont forget if you have this month's CM you can get a $20 discount on Massiva...

Thanks, do you mean the US CM? If so, I don´t know when and where to get it in Germany.

No, the UK magazine Computer Music...

whyterabbyt wrote:

No, the UK magazine Computer Music...

Does someone know if it´s delivered to Gemany?
Or another question to Jorgen: What about that special offer by ordering from your site?

Quote:

Or another question to Jorgen: What about that special offer by ordering from your site?

hmm, yes..jorgen??

I believe you can get it in Germany, though you'd probably have to search it out; last I heard it was about 20DM, which is only slightly more than the UK price of £5.50

Thank you, whyterabbyt, I´ll check it, but not before I´ll have a YES or NO answer by Jorgen (but I think I already know his answer)

OMG! I didn't even notice the Midi patcher and chorder til now!
mmmm....more fun to be had

Time to get nasty with some copies of mda splitter and various effects - quicker than you can say "multi-band delay"

regards,
dunk

A couple of tutorials for starters - cheers Jorgen

http://webmassiva.com/energyXT/help/

Steve T

NB - just a quick note to Jorgen - one more feature request

Do you think you could make it possible to make connections by clicking and dragging? possibly by ctrl-click for midi connections and alt-click for audio? This'll come in useful when there's lots of plugins open and especially when there's multiple versions of the same one - e.g. when I just set up 5 mda splitter plugs

regards,
dunk

I second that.

I agree, if I add copy/paste VST's and "smart" patching with click and drag, we'd save a lot of time. Coming up!

jorgen

Hi, Jorgen! does energy support vst automation. i loaded it in orion platinum and opened synth1 inside energyXT and played with the controls but they weren't recorded by Orion.
and a bug: ZR1 organ doesn't work in energyXT.

dunk wrote:

NB - just a quick note to Jorgen - one more feature request Do you think you could make it possible to make connections by clicking and dragging? possibly by ctrl-click for midi connections and alt-click for audio? This'll come in useful when there's lots of plugins open and especially when there's multiple versions of the same one - e.g. when I just set up 5 mda splitter plugs regards, dunk

Yep,

This would be a wonderful addition