i downloaded the demo of this new "miracle"...

not bad neither what i was waiting for

i do not want to discuss the similarity with the original, it is not so important to me, emulation is not my goal...

simply i have these critics:

presets are a nice example of poor use of fantasy (90% are basically minimoogs)

attack is not so tight as i'd want (and as i can obtain on a real minimoog or...... rebirth!!)

there is not the choice to do "mad " things.... it would be interesting to use audio signals as modulators for example

for me there are many things also free o shareware sounding better (as analog emulators)

but the sequencer is very funny and nice



the last thing i have seen looking like that was a nord micro modular...... much, much better... for me... and really fit for experimentation

sorry for my ugly english

For my ears the sound of the MM-V is great! Until today IMHO the best "analog" VSTi! Not a 100% (perhaps 75%?) "real" moog, but much more moog sounding as all the other VSTis.

It definitely blows away the Model E, but I could not pay 329 bucks for sounds that I can already achive using freeware synths. To me, emulation is taking a step backwards- yes its nice to be able to get vintage sounds, but I think that new soundscapes are way more important to me. This synth cost more than either one of my hosts(FL 3.5 and Sonar 2.2) and personally I think that is ridiculous.

It definitely blows away the Model E, but I could not pay 329 bucks for sounds that I can already achive using freeware synths. To me, emulation is taking a step backwards- yes its nice to be able to get vintage sounds, but I think that new soundscapes are way more important to me. This synth cost more than either one of my hosts(FL 3.5 and Sonar 2.2) and personally I think that is ridiculous.

Although I think the MoogModV sounds really good, the price is absurd. They need to come out with a mini-moog for a decent price cuz I would definitely buy that. But until then I'll hold off. I guess this would be really cool if you already owned a real MoogModular but it seems very clunky to me. $Just my 0.02.

Yes I agree about the price. I really love the sound of this VSTI but in
Canadian dollars its more expensive than a fur lined igloo. I can't help but wonder if they would sell many more copies at a realistic price. Surely their is a benefit to lowering the price; basic economics dictate that as the price lowers the demand increases disproportionately. I assume that their are a lot of more people that would buy it at 1/2 the current price.

S_A_P wrote:

It definitely blows away the Model E, but I could not pay 329 bucks for sounds that I can already achive using freeware synths.

Maybe,but there's a lot of sounds that you can get out of the MMV that you AREN't going to get anywhere else besides a software modular like VAZ,Reaktor or Tassman.A patchable like the MMV is so flexible.
As for the price;FM7 lists for right around $300,does it not?After MMV's been out for a while,you'll see it at Guitar Center for $250 or so.
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After MMV's been out for a while,you'll see it at Guitar Center for $250 or so.

maybe then I would consider that instrument. But for about 200 bucks more I could buy hardware that could produce the same types of sounds plus I would be getting something tangible. I'm sorry, but this plug is way too expensive. And while I have played with it and was very impressed by the sounds it made, there are way cheaper alternatives that cost way less money. I could get anywhere from 2-10 plugins for 329 bucks and have a much broader sound pallette, so what if I don't have the emulated moog sound...

I think part of the price (though they did mention $329 a while back) is for use of Bob Moogs name, logo and endoresement. I mean for him to endorse the product is great because it add and immense amount of credability to the product, and Arturia know this.

Since Bob has his own company and own products (Voyager) then any soft synth bearing his name is sure to eat into some profits of his company, hence Arturia most likely have to offset some of this loss to Bob, hence it is all in the price.

It is still rather expensive though, but I think it is really powerfull. I was pumping out some really fat shit with just two of the demo modulars running and I have never been able to get this sound with any other VSTi, so surely that is worth something ?

Bluey.

I don't think that the ModularV is too expensive, because it has so much versatility and power that you can make so much types of sounds with it.

I've made demos for Arturia ( which was added today on their site ), and I was totally amazed by the possibilities of the instrument. Now I'll use it for all my synth basses, pad, leads, and even sometimes for keyboards and kick drums (like the minimoog does).
For the first time with a vst intrument I don't have to equalize the bass and I can do some completely crazy high equs.

fgfab
http://www.fabricegabriel.com/

Good point about the licensing fees,bluey.
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i think the price is just about right. $50 less and i would consider it cheap. another old analogue gear emulation - pro 53 costs what, $200 (?). Arturia's Modular blows it out of the water.

Pro-53 can be found for as little as $69-99 I think

I was almost going to post a whine about the price then I took it back into prospective. The FM7 is $249. The Absynth is $249. The ModularV is $249. The Pro53 is $169. So really, this is all within line. If you like the sound, then go for it. I haven't played with the demo yet, but we'll see if I like it. I liked FM7 and Absynth, but didn't like Pro53 at all. If it's worth it, then you pay the money. I think a few people are getting a bit too spoiled by Free-$100 synths. I'm sorry, but as much as I've played with the higher priced synths compared to the lower priced ones, I see exactly what I'm paying for, and that's quality.

Devon

$249 sounds about right to me - obviously it'd be great if it was less though! I've been pretty impressed with how it sounds - bit out of my price range at the moment, but maybe one day.

DevonB wrote:

If it's worth it, then you pay the money. I think a few people are getting a bit too spoiled by Free-$100 synths. I'm sorry, but as much as I've played with the higher priced synths compared to the lower priced ones, I see exactly what I'm paying for, and that's quality. Devon

Yes,

true in most cases. There are only a few "high" priced VSTis I would concider to be not worth their money. There are a few lower priced or free VSTis that would look still good with a premium price tag.
As MMV kicks the Moog button inside of me it's obviously worth the money for me.

many thanks for your opinions..... we at www.cubase.it are constantly monitorizing yourselves on this subject

and the price is a very sensible argument

Obviously, I'd be tickled pink if it was cheaper too, but hey, life goes on right. I guess I just don't get how people can whine about the price of this stuff, though? I have spent in excess of $40,000 on equipment over the last 5-6 years. Compared to when I started, having whole synths for $249? I remember I DROOLED over the Yamaha SY-99 when I first started! What was that new? Only $2800? Getting the FM7 with FM synthesis with MORE power for only $249 is just a dream come true with the quality of the plugin! I mean the cheapest synth I bought was $330ish for my Yamaha FS1r, and that's because it was a discontinued item. I usually paid anywhere from $800-$2200 for synths, or $2675 for my Emu 64 sampler, and STILL had to spend another $800 for RAM, $250ish for the CDRom drive, I forget how much for hard drives, and the case, and then CDRom's on top of that! I paid $450 for a 64 meg piano! Now I can buy a 5 GIG piano for $208 Grandioso Steinway D or Bossendorfer 290 for Gigastudio. Do you have any idea how much this wants to make me cry? I *KNOW* there are guys and gals on here that have paid even MORE for synths before my time on here.

So all's I can say is count your blessings that we're in a proliferation of GOOD VSTi's that have DRAMATICALLY reduced in price to write music with, and has GREATLY increased your flexibility! I remember when I was considering buying several hardware compressors, but now I just load them up as a seperate instance in my host app! It's amazing how far we've come in just 5 years!

So all's I'm saying is $249 is *DIRT FRICKIN' CHEAP* people! We still could all be working on little screens on some hardware workstation that is grossly inadequate for writing music still, but the plugins are plentiful, the VSTi's are plentiful, and the host apps are great! For all of you who have been in the biz of writing music on synths for years, you've got to laugh at yourself for thinking $249 is expensive for a new instrument, don't you? I know I do. We're spoiled, plain and simple.

Devon

DevonB wrote:

I was almost going to post a whine about the price then I took it back into prospective. The FM7 is $249. The Absynth is $249. The ModularV is $249. The Pro53 is $169. So really, this is all within line. If you like the sound, then go for it. I haven't played with the demo yet, but we'll see if I like it. I liked FM7 and Absynth, but didn't like Pro53 at all. If it's worth it, then you pay the money. I think a few people are getting a bit too spoiled by Free-$100 synths. I'm sorry, but as much as I've played with the higher priced synths compared to the lower priced ones, I see exactly what I'm paying for, and that's quality. Devon

Where did you see MMV for $249?

Oblagon wrote:

i think the price is just about right. $50 less and i would consider it cheap. another old analogue gear emulation - pro 53 costs what, $200 (?). Arturia's Modular blows it out of the water.

I got Pro-53 for about $120 and I dont think anything blows it out of the water.

I just spent time with it. I don't care what anyone else thinks. I absolutely, completely, totally, love it. Too bad I can't afford it, but omigosh. I was playing Synergy tunes in my head in 2 seconds. No synth, not even my beloved z3ta+ has made me go WOW like this before.

AD80 wrote:

I got Pro-53 for about $120 and I dont think anything blows it out of the water.

Do you mean that when you compare the Arturia ModularV and the Pro53, you find that the Pro53 sounds better ?
For me the Pro53 is overpriced, because none of the sounds is really usable compared to the ModularV (maybe the pro53 leads ??).
You really feel the difference when you are at mix or mastering stage of a song. For me that's the major point, and the difference between a real pro instrument and a poor emulation is amplified at these stages.
And the Modular sounds like a real pro instrument, but maybe you don't hear the difference when playing 2 minutes with presets.

fgfab
http://www.fabricegabriel.com/

AudioMIDI.com has it for $249. I'd expect most of the other shops will be carrying it for that price. $329 is MSRP. Pretty dumb if you buy it for MSRP unless it's only distributed by the comapny itself and it's not in a box on store shelves.

Devon

$329 / 329 euros, NI do the same. This is the reason why it is $249 in the usa already because some states charge zero or not much sales tax, while it is something like 18% in europe, so here is your $329.

But is is rather unfair to charge $329 as an export price, since they are not paying any VAT on this because it is an export, so keep the difference while they have to pay up VAT for european customers. NI do the same.
I may be wrong though ....

Europeans could order it for $249, but then you may get hammered by VAT + import duty + postage.

BLuey.

New MoogV demo's on Arturia siteweb. Other style, other sounds !!
http://www.arturia.com/en/modular/comingsoon.html