Just tried it in Logic 6.1, and... ... my lord ... it works!!!!

(nothing against VirSyn, but most Mac users will understand my pleasant surprise...)

Don't wait - get it and put 30 minute aside, you'll need them! I love being able to play with the partials in real-time. The GUI is a blast. Presets are good, but could be in groups (based on style, like synths, acoustic, fx, etc). I couldn't load my own samples, but I suppose I should read the manual...

My first impression are good.

it remind me of D'cota a lot, ya ya same company sort of

ned, you can load you own samples into the cube

now that would be COOL

Well, there's no mention of this function in the short manual, but there's a 'load' in each of the four sources. The thing is, I suppose it won't let you load just any sample, like WAV or AIFF, but probably more resynthesized waveforms (audio that has gone through an FFT analysis) with partials ready to go...

AFAIK,you can't use your own samples,Ned-you've got Absynth 2 on the brain,I think
Even if you could,I doubt you could in the demo.
My impressions-this has jumped to the top of my must have list
ew

No, no EW, I've got resynthesis on the brain ! I want to be able to import a sample and muck around with its innards (partials). I don't believe the otherwise-superb Absynth will allow us to do that...

I can't even boot it up on the PC I try demos out on

I get a fatal error ......

"This program needs SSE support minimum requirement is
Pentium III or Athlon XP/MP ! "

I got Athlon 700 Mhz

Ned, it looks like Absynth 2 might be able to do what you want...

Quote:

ABSYNTH 2.0’s intuitive patch window makes it easy to mix sampling, granular sampling, subtractive, wavetable, FM, AM, ring modulation, and wave shaping synthesis.

Oh boy, Cube sounds freaking awesome! The demo patches are well-crafted as well. Now this is a synth that really got me drooling...

ok - anyone know yet what the retail price on this will be?

I'm itching to start saving my pennies......


my god the demo is awsome - standalone on OSX is great!

List is $249, discounted it should be anywhere from $199 - 229, maybe dealers will deep discount early though. Tis a good synth.

thanks bruce - I figured around that range

now time to keep the refresh button busy on the audiomidi site

Same as Raven on an old 1 Ghz AMD : no crash but when clicking on icon, same message !!!!!!!

Too bad : the specs just talk about pentium 600 Mhz and I just thought about " generic " speed ...

Now, you're warned !

Just tried the demo and Cube does sound damn good. If I did not already have FM7, PPG and Absynth. I would immediately rush off and buy Cube, but - except for the morphings - I think Cube's sonic spectrum is pretty much covered with FM7, PPG and Absynth. Cube does have a nice GUI, though.

endmusik wrote:

thanks bruce - I figured around that range now time to keep the refresh button busy on the audiomidi site

Hi Guys,
audioMIDI.com just added it on the site for $199
Come and get it

spmadmin wrote:

I think Cube's sonic spectrum is pretty much covered with FM7, PPG and Absynth. Cube does have a nice GUI, though.

I, too, have (and love to death) all of the above, but I would definately say that Cube will allow access into sonic territory not available to those synths...

Scot Solida wrote:

spmadmin wrote: I think Cube's sonic spectrum is pretty much covered with FM7, PPG and Absynth. Cube does have a nice GUI, though. I, too, have (and love to death) all of the above, but I would definately say that Cube will allow access into sonic territory not available to those synths...

Well, I might have overlooked some of its potential, and I know it may be hard to explain, but could you try to enlarge on this? Except for the dynamics obtained from the XY morphing, what "kind of sounds" do you think that can Cube do, that cannot be done with one of the 3 other synths?

Part of it is the synergy of being able to do multiple features within the same patch. The formants are stronger on CUBE, it is vastly easier to program than PPG Wave, FM7 or Absynth, all of which I also like a lot.

Because you can create your own designs the morph effect goes beyond the PPG Wave. For a historical sound, it's great but in terms of raw potential, not so strong. Absynth is simply more difficult and at this point harsher and dirtier than CUBE. I love Absynth but I'm being objective here. In terms of pure, clean, antialiased sound CUBE rules. The only synth that comes close is FM7 and with it's complicated matrix keeps it from being a quick and simple synth to adjust in real time unless you know how to design in it at a very high level. And still FM7 is a DX7 on steroids. It has the DX sound and a lot of good features to change that sound to something more modern, but it is still limited by being, what, two years old and having a lot of FM synths catch up or pass it in terms of creative ideas.

Those are a few things off the top of my head, but they are substantial to me, workflow is everything. I want to create sounds and create music and possibly do both on the fly. Of the three synths mentioned CUBE does it best. Abysnth does some things that are so different from anything else that it's not replaceable imo, but many people may think otherwise I suspect.

For those that don't have all these plugins CUBE is a substantial buy.

Well, Bruce beat me to the explanation and said it better than I might have. One thing I would add (!) is that becuase you have hundreds of partials to work with, each with its own attack/decay envelope, you can create sounds that go far beyond what an FM synth might produce (I'm not knocking th FM7, I love that one too). I find that Cube seems to be richer in sound to my ears than an FM synth. As Bruce said, it can sound "purer" than the harsh tonalities of other synths, yet is equally capable of being raucous and gritty. I have been able to create things that sounded like human voices (can't do that most non-sample based synths), but also was able to imitate, say, the grittier tone of the PPG choir or an analog lead. I think, though, that its best feature is its unashamed insistence that this is all very, very different than what we might be used to. This gives it a most refreshing and inspirational feeling when making patches. OF course, the best way to know for certain if it is for you is to live with the demo for a bit.

I wish I could actually try the Cube Demo. Everytime I start it, it says:

The instruction at "0x00479a96" referenced memory at "0x01b07000". The memory could not be "written".

The VSTi works though!

Well, I downloaded it and got it working great (on my new 3 Ghz P4 ) and it makes incredible sounds but even after reading thru the help file I am at a loss as to how to program sounds in additive synthesis. I can get some great "happy accidents" but still dont understand what I am doing. It is a whole different world from subtractive. Anyone have any pointers on additive synths before I buy this one???

spmadmin wrote:

I think Cube's sonic spectrum is pretty much covered with FM7, PPG and Absynth.

Cool, that means I no longer need to think about getting FM7, PPG and Absynth.

Suddenly Cube looks very cheap.

Just played around a bit. Have no idea what I'm doing.
But who cares - this is great!

I am definitely going to get this when I can get myself organised.

Glad I'm not the only one thats confused

need an upgrade- this wont work on an athlon 1ghz.

agnishvatta wrote:

The VSTi works though!

How do I get the VSTi Demo for PC?

Eg

It comes with the PC demo, just drag the dll into you vst folder

WOW! Cube is awesome!!!

Just a question: does the sustain pedal work with cube? It seems not (@my home, of course...)

Many thanks for this incredible synth!

Peace,
Cochrane

Scot Solida wrote:

One thing I would add (!) is that becuase you have hundreds of partials to work with, each with its own attack/decay envelope,

It has envelopes for every partial? I thought I read somewhere that it had four assignable envelopes (or something like that).

Ian

It has a handful of assignable, multistage, syncable envelopes (ala FM7 or Absynth), but each partial also has its own attack/decay envelope. FOrtunately, these are easy to use, as you can draw them in all at once.

There is an AD envelope per partial and 3 complex envelopes for X, Y-morphing and overall volume. In lots of cases you don't need the partial envelopes or use them as an addtional amp envelope when for instance creating a sound that morphes between a longer and short percussive version by mod-wheel. But it can also create a constant change in sound while the for example a pad is looping between two sources by slowly fading out certain partials or add certain timbre changes in the attack phase of a sound...

Has anyone got the OS9 Demo to work? it crashes both hosts i've tried it in. Logic and Cubase.

G4 required ! if you've got one then mail Harry Gohs ...

Yes, J, it works for me in OS 9, with Logic 6.1. No crashes whatsoever. but note that I'm on a G4 867.

Uh, this thing is great, and I have Absynth and FM7... I can't believe how easy it is to make great sounds just with the mod wheel and the XY controller! This thing would be scary with the new Novation controller keyboard... Gonna have to upgrade the old Mac though...

probably a stupid question - SSE is a technology that is in your processsor?(not software?) clutching at straws here.

mojogigolo wrote:

probably a stupid question - SSE is a technology that is in your processsor?(not software?) clutching at straws here.

http://www.geek.com/glossary/glossary_search.cgi?streaming

thanks summa, thats what i was after.