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AuthorTopic: Anyone got latest CM mag yet?
Deuce
Posted: 3rd June 2003 02:19
Just wondering whether the Bioroid thing that they hinted about in the last issue is on the CD? Is this Creakbox?
whyterabbyt
Posted: 3rd June 2003 02:26
This months plugin is supposed to be cm505, isnt it?
vurt
Posted: 3rd June 2003 02:32
cm-505 Very Happy
its very good btw
Deuce
Posted: 3rd June 2003 02:39
Yes, CM-505 is very good. I have this already and would recommend anyone who wouldn't normally buy the mag to go out and get it just for this Linplug gem.

I asked my question because last month CM gave away Bioroid TurnTablist Pro VSTi, but in the magazine it said that we should 'expect more plugin coolness from the Bioroid boys next month'.

This has got to be Creakbox VSTi hasn't it?

Anyone have the mag yet?

Bioroid: seeing as the mag is out now can you spill the beans. What have CM got on their CD from Bioroid this month? Is it Creakbox VSTi? Please say yes Smile
vurt
Posted: 3rd June 2003 02:42
the cm505 issue is the current issue that only hits stores this comin thursday

july 2nd for next issue
Catspad
Posted: 3rd June 2003 02:43
Could someone enlighten me as to what Creakbox is ?

I have the new CM, but can't say that I've seen this on the disc (mind you I ain't looked either Razz ...)
Like the look of CM505, but yet to dabble Sad

Thanks
CP
vurt
Posted: 3rd June 2003 02:45
well hurry up and dabble catspad
i promise you will be hooked Smile
Raven
Posted: 3rd June 2003 04:20
No there is nothing from Bioroid that I can see Confused

got my copy through the letter box Saturday Razz
whyterabbyt
Posted: 3rd June 2003 04:29
Alex quoth Yes, CM-505 is very good. I have this already and would recommend anyone who wouldn't normally buy the mag to go out and get it just for this Linplug gem.

I asked my question because last month CM gave away Bioroid TurnTablist Pro VSTi, but in the magazine it said that we should 'expect more plugin coolness from the Bioroid boys next month'.


yup - last month CM gave away TTPro. And you have another magazine with CM505 on it, which is the issue for the month after last month... ie the issue for this month? And it hasnt actually hit the shelves of shops yet. So you have the latest issue, and we dont and you're asking us what on the CD...

See why you might be confusing us a tad? Smile
Red_CM
Posted: 3rd June 2003 04:44
From the Bioroid boys:

"Unfortunately Creakbox is still not ready for public release. It is in the process of being optimized and will hopefully be ready in a few short weeks."

Will be withing the next 2 issues. I'll keep you informed as to issue numbers, dates and spec as soon as its confirmed.

Reds
Deuce
Posted: 3rd June 2003 04:59
Red_CM wrote:
From the Bioroid boys:

"Unfortunately Creakbox is still not ready for public release. It is in the process of being optimized and will hopefully be ready in a few short weeks."

Will be withing the next 2 issues. I'll keep you informed as to issue numbers, dates and spec as soon as its confirmed.

Reds


Nice one Red!!! I knew it must be Creakbox!!

A few questions though if thats OK Wink

1 - It will be the VSTi version right???

2 - Will it be available exclusively through CM magazine?

3 - Will it become part of the CM studio? (CB-303?). I see there is a gap for a 303-named VSTi in your series.

Cheers Very Happy
Deuce
Posted: 3rd June 2003 05:20
whyterabbyt wrote:
And you have another magazine with CM505 on it....so you have the latest issue, and we dont and you're asking us what on the CD...

See why you might be confusing us a tad? Smile


Sorry to confuse you Smile

I was lucky enough to help test CM-505 and have had it for some time. I have used it in several of my projects already. It is very good. Go get the mag for CM-505 alone is worth a fiver!! So no I don't have this months mag yet and I'm not sure I will until I know whats in it (was hoping to have Creakbox VSTi this month as you can probably tell!!)

So Red....what else is in this months mag and on the CD? (questions questions Laughing).
Scot Solida
Posted: 3rd June 2003 05:23
Alex wrote:


It is very good. Go get the mag for CM-505 alone is worth a fiver!


It is very good, isn't it? Very Happy I can see this becoming quite indespensible.
Muon Software Ltd
Posted: 3rd June 2003 06:45
Quote:
3 - Will it become part of the CM studio? (CB-303?). I see there is a gap for a 303-named VSTi in your series.


Ahem, cough. Red?

Dave
Jeez
Posted: 3rd June 2003 06:49
Does each CM magazine have all the plugins from previous editions too?? Like if I buy the current one (probably llcoming to Oz in three months), will I also get OHMYGOD, and the Sampler, and the Subtractive synth, as well???

Can't remember the names...

Thanks,




Kim.
Scot Solida
Posted: 3rd June 2003 06:53
Yup. Every issue's cover disc has ALL of the plug-ins (as well as others in the library folder...free Alpha, Crystal, Tau, etc), as well Computer Muzys.
cnegrad
Posted: 3rd June 2003 06:58
What exactly is a Creakbox anyway?
Deuce
Posted: 3rd June 2003 07:38
cnegrad wrote:
What exactly is a Creakbox anyway?


It's a Roland TB-303 emulation.

It has been a standalone for ages (although not realtime - you have to export the audio file after you have programmed what you want). Bioroid has been porting it over to VSTi for some time now (the kind chap that he is). This is the VSTi that every TB-303 fan wants. Creakbox is supposed to be the best emulation of the TB-303 so far....apparently that is. The MP3 examples that I have heard from Bioroid from other KvR threads have certainly made it sound sweet.

I wonder how it will sound next to Tau2 (side-by-side comparison)...

Dave: does Tau2 have a sequencer in the same vein as the original? I think this is important in a TB-303 emulation and the sequencer being so good is probably the reason why Creakbox (and dare I say ReBirth) sounds so authentic.

Red_CM: As you have just released this months magazine I am assuming you are either (a) sitting with your feet on your desk smoking a big fat spliff, or (b) down the pub drinking K cider in a Bristol pub garden.....either way, I am sure you do deserve a break Smile . What better way to relax than to come to KvR and discuss CreakBox with us some more Very Happy
Red_CM
Posted: 3rd June 2003 07:44
Rolling Eyes Oh sure, I'm lazing around on my arse - nothing to do here. hell, getting a mag out in 28 days is a breeze! I dont need to work at all for at least... ohhh... 23 of them. Wink

tisch... I'll tell you what Alex, what do you want to know? I'll spill the beans...
Muon Software Ltd
Posted: 3rd June 2003 07:47
Quote:
I wonder how it will sound next to Tau2 (side-by-side comparison)...


Seems to me so far that they've got the amp envelopes very badly wrong, worse than Rebirth. The oscillators seem to be spot on, but sadly I can definately hear serious errors in the filter envelope curves. Some of the parameters don't seem to be scaled quite right but I think I should be able to do some comparisons, maybe in another thread though.

The sequencer is also missing the tie command like Rebirth, which is kind of annoying when you want to copy patterns over. Tau2 isn't planned to feature an inbuilt sequencer, but heck I might be open to changing my mind Razz

Cheers
Dave
Scot Solida
Posted: 3rd June 2003 07:48
But you didn't answer the CRUCIAL question, Red: Is the spliff FAT?
Red_CM
Posted: 3rd June 2003 07:49
No, the spliff is long and perfectly formed - DOH! damnit I've been rumbled! Wink
Red_CM
Posted: 3rd June 2003 07:54
Alex wrote:
Nice one Red!!! I knew it must be Creakbox!!

A few questions though if thats OK Wink

1 - It will be the VSTi version right???

2 - Will it be available exclusively through CM magazine?

3 - Will it become part of the CM studio? (CB-303?). I see there is a gap for a 303-named VSTi in your series.

Cheers Very Happy


Ahhh, visiting P1 again and I spot this. i think there has been some confusion somewhere Alex. Creakbox is a Bioroid commercial release, we will be running an exclusive version of the disk, but it will be cut back or demo version however the Bio boys may have another little something to look forward to later in the summer to accompany TTP.

No, Creakbox wont be part of the CM studio, but yes, we are aware there is a gap that seems to be labelled 303... Wink mmm... I wonder what we'll do with it... Maybe we should resurect the Donkey Synth idea just to confuse people...
Red_CM
Posted: 3rd June 2003 07:59
Jeez wrote:
Does each CM magazine have all the plugins from previous editions too?? Like if I buy the current one (probably llcoming to Oz in three months), will I also get OHMYGOD, and the Sampler, and the Subtractive synth, as well???

Can't remember the names...

Thanks,
Kim.


Hey kim, yep sure does! When we release a new instrument we will feature it for a few issues to give you some good tutorials and then it gets dropped in the library for every subsequant (spell?) issue.
smart
Posted: 3rd June 2003 08:05
Red, can you PM me your mail address? I want to talk to you about something...
Red_CM
Posted: 3rd June 2003 08:07
Even better than that, I'll put it up here: kevin.redding@futurenet.co.uk

but i will point out that I'm in the studio testing some software at this moment and will be for a few more days so its probably better to do it over PM....
smart
Posted: 3rd June 2003 08:13
I'll pm you in just a minute then, right after i tell you to change your posted mail address to use [at] instead of the @ symbol so you don't get spam Smile
Red_CM
Posted: 3rd June 2003 08:15
hey dont worry about that our spam filter filters out all of our email anyway - even the legit ones.. Wink
smart
Posted: 3rd June 2003 08:27
hehe ok, well you have a PM now Smile
Jeez
Posted: 3rd June 2003 18:04
Red_CM wrote:
When we release a new instrument we will feature it for a few issues to give you some good tutorials and then it gets dropped in the library for every subsequant (spell?) issue.


"Dropped in the library?" - What does that mean?

Forever,




Kim.
Scot Solida
Posted: 3rd June 2003 18:48
Kim: On every CM disc, there is a "Library" folder that all of the CM stuff gets put into after it's served it's fifteen minutes of fame as the cover star. It's still all there, just not necessarily blazing across the cover or in the "Full Software" folder.
SRF
Posted: 3rd June 2003 23:42
Tau2 = CM303!

Go on guys... cut a deal... you know you want to really... Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
Muon Software Ltd
Posted: 4th June 2003 01:17
Quote:
Go on guys... cut a deal... you know you want to really...


I couldn't possibly comment.... Very Happy

Dave
Deuce
Posted: 4th June 2003 01:36
Muon Software Ltd wrote:
Tau2 isn't planned to feature an inbuilt sequencer, but heck I might be open to changing my mind Razz

Cheers
Dave


A TB-303 style sequencer would be great Dave Smile

Pleeeaaaseeeee!!! Very Happy
Muon Software Ltd
Posted: 4th June 2003 01:51
My idea would be to have it in a seperate product - then you could use it with Tau, Tau Pro etc. also. This could be a lot of fun.

Problem is, VST plugins can't transmit MIDI data to other VST plugins so we're still looking into exactly how it could be done in a nice, tidy cross-platform way. We might not be able to do it for a while so don't get your hopes up.

Cheers
Dave
whyterabbyt
Posted: 4th June 2003 01:55
MFX?
Muon Software Ltd
Posted: 4th June 2003 02:04
AFAIK MFX is PC-only Crying or Very sad

Dave
whyterabbyt
Posted: 4th June 2003 02:09
True. But at least its only one standard rather than the 3 (AU, VST,MAS) sitting in Macspace...
vurt
Posted: 4th June 2003 02:19
Muon Software Ltd wrote:

Problem is, VST plugins can't transmit MIDI data to other VST plugins so we're still looking into exactly how it could be done in a nice, tidy cross-platform way. We might not be able to do it for a while so don't get your hopes up.

Cheers
Dave



i know your lookin for cross platform,and also i may be wrong but isnt the recieve midi from another generator function what your after?
orion supports this,mebbe you should have a chat with them Very Happy

like i said not sure if its exactly what your after,but it sounds like it to me,but then again what do i know,sometimes i cant even remember me own thingy-wotsit you know

anyway hope this helps
if not sorry

oh sorry for goin on as well but you know how it is,its just one of them days Very Happy


yes scot the spliff is FAT Shocked possibly too FAT Rolling Eyes Wink
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