Hi guys,
a friend of mine have just heavily modified a user library ensemble for reaktor, making a good UI and modifing the sequencer.
A good TB303 Emu in my opinion.
Have a look to the user library newest synth and put some feedback please!
Kokko

why don't you put it in the Reaktor area of sectionz.com ?

help us get the Reaktor area going!

Fair enough, but isnt the TB probably the most over-emulated synth on the planet?

I mean I'll try it out, but its not exactly an MS-20 now, is it

I must admit this sounds pretty fucking good indeed. Oh yes.

...and it looks like the real thing too

Here's a screeny:

IMO, there's no such thing as too many 303 emulations!

This thing looks great. Can't wait to try it out...how did you make the GUI?

AK toppa

wow that is one of the best GUI's I've seen in a Reaktor synth. Nice work

Yes...a great GUI. But one things bugs me. Why have authentic knobs for some parameters but then use the default reaktor knobs for other parameters?

variOS

http://www.roland.com/VariOS/features/images/VariOS303-1.jpg

jinx wrote:

variOS http://www.roland.com/VariOS/features/images/VariOS303-1.jpg

Yeah,but Reaktor's a LOT cheaper
ew

wow, I've never even heard of VariOS before and it does look pretty cool. Seems like it's similar to a DSP Card that will run plugins and whatnot..

OK...I just noticed that 90% of this ensemble looks like the VariOS plug. I'm not at my Reaktor computer now, so I'm really curious about this: Do the knobs for Tempo, Pattern, and Mode function (the knobs that don't look like Reaktor stock ones), or are they only there for looks?

AK toppa

toppa wrote:

OK...I just noticed that 90% of this ensemble looks like the VariOS plug. I'm not at my Reaktor computer now, so I'm really curious about this: Do the knobs for Tempo, Pattern, and Mode function (the knobs that don't look like Reaktor stock ones), or are they only there for looks? AK toppa

Every knob, button and switch works as it should

I was wondering myself whether the GUI was ripped from VariOS screenshot

Thanx Alex...I'm gearin' up for an acid-drenched weekend here!

AK toppa

actually the graphic was made with screen captures from varios...
was impossible to make knobs continuos knobs (127 grabbing...): too tiring and too much heavy.
Actually the tempo knob does not work.
The synth is synched with the reaktor tempo in standalone, and in the host tempo in vsti.
I like it a lot!
66 downloads, 9.33 as rating (3 votes only.)
ciao
Kokko

toppa wrote:

Thanx Alex...I'm gearin' up for an acid-drenched weekend here! AK toppa

Yeah...me too Toppa

Just check this out to wet your appetite

www.artistcollaboration.com/~alex/Reaktor_bass_line.mp3

This is one of the better TB-303 emulations I've heard

That was niiiice! Love that acid sound.

AK Toppa

Great one!
really acid!
)
Kokko

Hi There,
I'm the guy that did it!
Thanks for the positive reaction, but again I think that all the credits need to go to Benjamin Suthers that did the original TB303 emulation for Reaktor.
I have always been fascinated by the TB303 sound.I used to play a lot with a real one from 1983 to 1984.Then Acid House came out in 1987/88 and again TB303 was responsable for the sound.Than rebirth came out and the same feeling was almost back!
In march I have seen at the Frankfurt Music Messe the Vari OS TB303 emulation.The sound of it was very good.The only problem with it is that when You use the TB emulation You can't do anything else with the machine and just to do this is very expensive(maybe 1300 Euros!).So when I bought Reaktor 4 I downloaded the Benjamin Suthers TB303.The sound was great(very acid) but the interface was really poor (version 0.5).So I decided to creat a new version.As You can see the background image is very similar to the variOS but I had to do a lot of work with Photoshop to adapt it to Reaktor.When in use, the interface it's really live and not just a background.In play mode all the step leds light up and in Write You get a lot of feedback from all the led indicators just like the real one.That's why the structure got really complicated.More or less it took me more than 2 weeks to finish it!!.
I think that one of the best features is the pattern switching with midi notes 36 to 41.In this way it's very easy to automate the bassline on any midi sequencer!

to Alex
1) You made a great sequence already!
2)The knobs had to be Reaktor ones because otherwise using Multi picture it would be very difficult.Also I think response to midi controllers would be affected.

to Toppa:
Everything you see on the screenshot is working.For Mode and pattern select just click and drag on them.The only knob not working is the tempo(try clicking on it!) because it's much easier to use Reaktor or the Host program tempo.
I'm open to any suggestion to improve it even more!

Ciao!

pinaxa wrote:

I think that one of the best features is the pattern switching with midi notes 36 to 41.In this way it's very easy to automate the bassline on any midi sequencer!!

Ah, great I'll have to try this

pinaxa wrote:

to Alex 1) You made a great sequence already

You should hear whats coming out of my speakers right now....I just hope this thing doesn't cause the old flashbacks to start coming back

pinaxa wrote:

I'm open to any suggestion to improve it even more!

How about a pitch entry mode/option on the sequencer so we can click in a sequence very quickly without having to hit the "note" button each time.

Also I see an Accent knob is missing??

Otherwise, all is good. I am very happy indeed (as you can probably tell).

Thankyou very much

Hi,

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How about a pitch entry mode/option on the sequencer so we can click in a sequence very quickly without having to hit the "note" button each time.

I think about this! good idea

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Also I see an Accent knob is missing??

I have tried to put the accent knob where it was and move the dist knob but i think the setting of the default accent is very good and the dist knob is more useful!!

also if You switch to the B view on the instrument panel You will find a Help box!

Ciao!

I think you should put it on Smart's website too - it sounds like a good place to bounce and try out ideas like this - a sort of scratch pad before uploading the final version to the user library.

aMUSEd wrote:

I think you should put it on Smart's website too - it sounds like a good place to bounce and try out ideas like this - a sort of scratch pad before uploading the final version to the user library.

That's a good idea for lots of us.whyterabbyt uploaded something,and i just uploaded my newest there as well.
ew

Here's that loop again but with the Junatik delay wired up to the bassline....nice

www.artistcollaboration.com/~alex/Reaktor_bass_line_with_delay.mp3

Thanks again pinaxa....you made my day

toppa wrote:

Thanx Alex...I'm gearin' up for an acid-drenched weekend here! AK toppa

toppa: how was the weekend...did your brain survive

So...did any good tunes or loops come out of it??

Gotta wonder how happy Roland will be when they see those graphics though

Dave

Muon Software Ltd wrote:

Gotta wonder how happy Roland will be when they see those graphics though Dave

Yeah, I did wonder that myself. I suppose you could say that the GUI has been warez'd

Are GUI copyrighted? For example if you saw that someone 'borrowed' the knobs from Tau Pro could you/would you take legal action?

Also, are the UI's of the original hardware units copyrighted. Is there anything stopping anyone using a reproduced image of an original hardware unit (e.g. the TB-303 knobs)?

Alex wrote:

toppa wrote: Thanx Alex...I'm gearin' up for an acid-drenched weekend here! AK toppa toppa: how was the weekend...did your brain survive So...did any good tunes or loops come out of it??

It nearly survived! My ears, on the other hand...

Some tunes are in the making, and they will be acid-enhanced!

Great ensemble! Won't be looking into VariOS anymore.

AK toppa

Muon Software Ltd wrote:

Gotta wonder how happy Roland will be when they see those graphics though Dave

I'm not an expert in this area.I hope doing this kind of customization is not a legal problem.Also because there is not commercial use of it.But if it is and someone argue about it,I have not problem of taking it away from Reaktor user library.

Ciao!

As suggested by Alex,a new version of bassline is out with "Auto Step".
As soon as You hit NOTE,TIE,REST the step indicator will automatically select the next step.

pinaxa wrote:

Muon Software Ltd wrote: Gotta wonder how happy Roland will be when they see those graphics though Dave I'm not an expert in this area.I hope doing this kind of customization is not a legal problem.Also because there is not commercial use of it.But if it is and someone argue about it,I have not problem of taking it away from Reaktor user library. Ciao!

After thinking for a while since I made this for fun and I don't want to have any problem I decided to remove the ensemble from Reaktor user library.

Ciao!

did you totally take it down, or did you just replace it? 'cause I'm getting some weird error saying that it was done on Reaktor 3.39 and I need to upgrade, but I have R4?

dw

dusted william wrote:

did you totally take it down, or did you just replace it? 'cause I'm getting some weird error saying that it was done on Reaktor 3.39 and I need to upgrade, but I have R4? dw

3.39 is the 4.02 update.3.37 was the 4.01.005.It's because a lot of the underlying code was done for the stillborn R3.3 update.
ew

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After thinking for a while since I made this for fun and I don't want to have any problem I decided to remove the ensemble from Reaktor user library. Ciao!

do you have it available where any of us late comers can have at it?

thanks

-K-

Woah...glad I got it while it was available! This is a true Reaktor collector's item.

AK toppa

I'm in love with Aceeeeeiiiiiiid again.


This brings me back to my youth!

thanks

dw

Could someone please post a dry (no disto) sequence from this reaktor 303 ?
From what i can hear, it doesnt sound at all like the real one...(as usual)
Grafix is great, anyway.

It certainly sounded great until Reaktor crashed. AGAIN! Even after the 4.2 update!

easymode wrote:

Could someone please post a dry (no disto) sequence from this reaktor 303 ? From what i can hear, it doesnt sound at all like the real one...(as usual) Grafix is great, anyway.

What...so you can tell us how terrible you think it sounds next to some samples that you have?

Synthpopkid wrote:

It certainly sounded great until Reaktor crashed. AGAIN! Even after the 4.2 update!

I find that all user library ensembles crash with the new updates....just did a roll back and all is fine now. Guess I'll skip this version

It's crazy isn't it? I had no problems at all with Reaktor 3.0. I can't even save some of my songs running 4.0 as a VST in Cubasis. I get an unknown error. Guess I'll also go back a version and update when the dust settles around this one. Glad i didn't buy it in this state though.

Anyway, looking at the NI forum I'm not alone so I'm not gonna harp on about Reaktor 4 crashing anymore. It was a free upgrade from 3 for me anyway

wahhhhhhhhh

no ones gonna post it before i go home.....

-K-

Where can I get this incredible one?

Was it a figure of our imaginations?

Pinaxa,

Want me to have some new knobs made for you? That way you won't have to worry about getting into trouble, change the name & you should be fine. The auto step feature was a good thing to add.

Alex,

It'd be nice if your examples didn't use distortion, this has been the first indication of a cheap digital replica ever since Rebirth. It's not like the real one had a distortion knob, after all. Nice one on the auto step suggestion.

Just to clarify: the VariOS GUI is legally (and, for that matter, morally) an artwork. Put it another way, people like BitPlant wouldn't have a business model if they couldn't copyright their UIs. Think pinaxa's done the right thing, but I hope he goes back and comes back with a infringement-free version.

Uncle E wrote:

It'd be nice if your examples didn't use distortion, this has been the first indication of a cheap digital replica ever since Rebirth. It's not like the real one had a distortion knob, after all. Nice one on the auto step suggestion.

I did upload one yesterday actually....can't remeber the url right now though so will give you it tonight.

id still rather have my own modded 303 .ism than this.

MRT1212 wrote:

id still rather have my own modded 303 .ism than this.

Is that available in the user library?

If not, could you email me it so that I can try it.

Alex wrote:

Uncle E wrote: It'd be nice if your examples didn't use distortion, this has been the first indication of a cheap digital replica ever since Rebirth. It's not like the real one had a distortion knob, after all. Nice one on the auto step suggestion. I did upload one yesterday actually....can't remeber the url right now though so will give you it tonight.

Here is the dry mp3:

http://www.artistcollaboration.com/~alex/Reaktor_bass_line_dry.mp3

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, I waited all summer for this one and you guys have take it down , pleas PM if one of you have it and I'll give you my mail so that you can send it to me, PLEAS

I know that it was in NI user library but now there is not, why???????

can any1 mail me the modified 303 ens ? pn me for email address ...

jocoltrane wrote:

Hi guys, a friend of mine have just heavily modified a user library ensemble for reaktor, making a good UI and modifing the sequencer. A good TB303 Emu in my opinion. Have a look to the user library newest synth and put some feedback please! Kokko

Right.
Where is it? I can't find it anywhere