Give me a hint:

(a) Leave sound as-is
(b) Make it sound plain like most gigapianos
(c) Other (please, use form at http://www.yohng.com/vsti/)


**NOTE, I don't claim 4Front Piano to be the best, just want to figure out things myself**

Although, you obviously notice what my own preference is

Also - I'd like to know how many people out there would really like to bloat this module

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I'm planning on releasing a pro version of a piano module in the near future, and I've got some of proposals that may *change* the way piano currently sounds.

I bet on its current sound.

Options to control velocity curves, stereo width, etc - will be added for commercial version. Poll is about the sound character.

Choose the one, that you think is the most actual.

Thanks,
George.

Great way to make a poll.

Make the option you like sound nice and the others like they were crap. No need for a poll then.

NEA wrote:

Great way to make a poll. Make the option you like sound nice and the others like they were crap. No need for a poll then.

Actually, this might give Göran Persson a few pointers on how to rig the EMU referendum.

/Yoss

Yossarian wrote:

NEA wrote: Great way to make a poll. Make the option you like sound nice and the others like they were crap. No need for a poll then. Actually, this might give Göran Persson a few pointers on how to rig the EMU referendum. /Yoss

Maybe it was the other way around?

NEA wrote:

Great way to make a poll. Make the option you like sound nice and the others like they were crap. No need for a poll then.

No claim that my piano sound is better or worse than gigapianos etc... I claim it to be more efficient and more usable for live performances (and yet soft, rich and free).

I don't want the plain sound because... ...it's plain

So let people have an effort in putting their *true* opinion, not a protest against p1 or p2.

Why not make like you want it to be?

NEA wrote:

Why not make like you want it to be?

I want to sell a pro version of it, therefore I have to serve public trust

gyohng wrote:

NEA wrote: Why not make like you want it to be? I want to sell a pro version of it, therefore I have to serve public trust

In the other thread alot of people liked the free version. Just refine it in the PRO version and it will be a success

I'm going for (a), I think it's fantastic. Also I'd like some type of treble control - as it is now, I have to eq the treble up quite a bit to get the sound I want.

I think the way it is now is fine. It doesn't sound like any other piano sample.
If the pro version will have a commercial value is another thing... I think you have to deliver a much more polished thing if you want someone to pay for it.

Leave it different. There is no point in selling product similar to all others. There is already too much similar piano libraries available.

nah, to be a commercial success you have to present a certain image.. quality is only half the package. think of all those one-sound modules that came out, were $100 a piece and bug-ridden thru loads of updates.. resolve yourself to the 'pro' image (ie. present yourself as an authority from some orbiting laboratory; humble, but certain that your product is the only sensible choice) and then buy loads of ad space in u.s. magazines

you've obviously got a command of the paradigm.. as a player i'd want to tailor my responsitivity settings, as a musician i'd want some timbral flexibility (can you warp it to honkytonkicity?) and performance.. but half your market just wants to believe they're buying a 'professional' piano sound and will be near clueless as to whether a selection of velocity curves is a feature they want or not. one mark will yap "this is great!" or "awful!" and those in the chorus will adopt an opinion.

so far i've only heard it using a fixed velocity response over 3 octaves (using the synthedit keyboard..) so can't really comment.. my only input is thus to suggest that you make it a snappy $20 or therabouts; professionals and hobbyists from the right side of the tracks will snap it up w/o thinking about, and you'll be doing students a favour. spread the joy.

Hi George. I'll intentionally withhold my personal opinion but offer the following . . . Since you feel strongly about your piano, why bother why the poll? Do what you think sounds the best. Some people seem to really like it. I think xoxos may be right about the price--you may get far more buyers at $20 then $50--but I'm far from an expert in the economics of marketing VSTs.

You'll never make everyone happy.

Keep it different...make it like YOU hear it first. Those artistic differences: the way in which you hear things, are what make you uniquely you. Ignore the masses and develope for yourself *first*...the more unique the better; and if it's got "vibe", the masses will pick up on it eventually. 2cents.

Peace from Lexington, Kentucky U.S.A. - Kev

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I'd rather hear it with less ambience (reverb).

And, as already said, more in tune.

As it is it sounds very live and rich, but a problem in the mix.

Unless you have a piano-based tune, that is.

Not to be a sycophant or anything but I say leave it as-is. As others have mentioned there are plenty of other (expensive) options for those who want a pristine sampled piano set. This little VST has some character to it and I think it would be a shame to strangle it in its crib. Whether it's slightly detuned or out of tune or whatever, I don't know. What I do know is that I sat in front of my keyboard playing with it for nearly an hour. It was even inspiring me to do a more rocky/honky-tonk kind of tune (think Jerry Lee Lewis). If only I could play like that. C'est la vie.

I think a pro version with a few user-tweakable options would be successful if priced for breakthrough. Something in the $20-30 range and I think a lot of people wouldn't think twice about buying something with character.

-lbn

I'd love to answer this question but how could I say which sound I prefer when I only heard one of them? Right now I'd say use your best judgement, but as a general rule of preference I tend to think that the less processing a piano sound has the better. Less gloss usually means the piano sounds more natural and less like a digital piano (compare the free STPiano with any of the Sonic Reality pianos for an example of that, the SR ones sound like a mic'd piano in a room, the ST one sounds like a digital piano). But again, use your best judgement.

well, the whole reason I woul duse a piano plug in is to

1) avoid paying 5000 for the studio piano I currently have my eye on

2) add something that sounds like a piano to my music

3) midi sequence a piano part that would be too much of a pain to play

That being said, I want my piano to sound like a piano, I have plenty of sound fonts that sound like a honky tonk piano, so I think it would be WAY more useful to have a piano that sounded like a piano but didn't need GS or 512MB to sound somewhat realistic. I know you want your plug to have its own signiture sound, but I think it is a much bigger accomplishment to sound like a 50 Mb soundfont using 7 mb, than to have your own unique sound...

I like the sound as it is so I'd go for A. For efficiency and great piano sound nothing can beat it at the moment! I hope you can push out more similar products for other instrument types! I hate 1gig samples and I believe in future that kind of stuff will be useless for nothing than big memory waste. I'll definitely buy the final product if the price is not too high.

I think it's pretty good. The only impovement I like to see (hear) is to make it responding more to velocity - not just lowering the volume/cutting high frequency... All cheap/free pianos I'v tried doesn't emulate soft playing very well...

I like the idea, but I don't like the samples you used. Have you heard the 76meg "Splendid Grand" from the Akai web site? It's a three velocity layer piano with extremely well done loops that sounds incredible. I converted that to a compressed Jeskola XS1 file which brought it's size down to about 24meg. I've also converted it to a Kontakt file and that works extremely well too, but it takes more memory.

I would love to have a great sounding "no settings" piano VST. It does need better samples and a better decay before I'd pay for it though.

Laurence Kingston