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AuthorTopic: Does The Grand sound as good as a Kawai MP9000 in midrange?
Jake Johnson
Posted: 1st July 2003 20:52
At a music store (with bad listening conditions), I recently played a Kawai MP9000 for the first time, and was surprised by it. The octave two octaves above middle C was not wonderful--almost sine waves. On the other hand, the octave below middle C and above it were very good, particularly on the Studio Grand patch.

Is anyone here familiar with both this instrument and The Grand? Presumably, The Grand would be much better, since it has longer samples and more samples\less interpolation. But my main concern is if it sounds as good, has the same presence and clarity, as the midrange of the MP9000. (I'm seriously considering buying a MP9000 just because of its ability to sustain chords in this area so well. Or were my ears deceiving me? I've played enough store keyboards to know how hard it is to judge a sound while other in a noisy store, so it wouldn't surprise me if the MP9000 samples sound less pristine in a quiet setting.)

A second question (or is this the third?): Is The Grand sampled from a hall perspective, so it's more suited for classical, or is it sampled from a players perspective\close mic'ed, more like the Studio Grand patch on the MP9000?
WillieJenkins
Posted: 1st July 2003 21:04
Hey, I own a Kawai MP9000, The only stuff I've noticed is that the C above middle C sometimes has an unnatural ringing to it after prolonged playing (to my ears anyway). Aside from that it sounds pretty good. Does it sound amazing? no, but it sounds damn good for what it is Very Happy. I have my mp9000 as my main controller and it works just as well triggering piano samples thru kontakt or giga160, so I'd say go for it Very Happy

My gf who's been playing piano for 18+ years now doesn't mind the Kawai sound, and she's DAMN picky Very Happy so I can't complain.

The thing about the Kawai is the FEEL, nothing else I've played (sub 5k) comes close. hehe

HTH
WillieJenkins
Posted: 1st July 2003 21:05
note: never tried the grand Very Happy
egbert
Posted: 1st July 2003 21:49
The piano sample set in the MP9000 is tiny compared to the large (1 gig + ) piano sample sets currently available so I would not expect it to be the definitive sampled piano.

As a controller it is excellent - wooden keys, great feel. Just don't plan on moving it around a lot on your own it weighs 40+ kg without a case.

The Eg
Rabid
Posted: 2nd July 2003 14:53
You might make sure that your computer will play The Grand to acceptable performance levels before buying. I have friends who bought it and cannot use it, even though their systems do not have trouble with GigaStudio or Kontakt grand pianos.

Robert
lkingston
Posted: 2nd July 2003 21:29
I have "The Grand" and I hate it. It's not even installed on my computer. I use the 76 meg "Splendid Grand" sampled piano taken of the Akia website. I have it converted to both Soundfont and Kontakt formats and it sounds WAY BETTER than Steinberg piano either way.

Another thing with "The Grand": only my external USB Sony cdr recorder will read the disk through whatever kind of copy protection Steinberg uses. I got errors trying to install it with anything else. "The Grand" is a great idea, but it wasn't that well done.

Laurence Kingston
putte
Posted: 2nd July 2003 23:59
I love The Grand. Love

I love its warmth, and for the way i play piano itīs superb to use it -
I was never a fan of these modern used bright piano-sounds ... i prefer these 60īs-pianos sounds from the likes of morricone, mancini, michel legrand etc ... and therefor The Grand does a super job here.

cheers
putte
bluey
Posted: 3rd July 2003 00:39
yeah putte is right Smile

B.
putte
Posted: 3rd July 2003 00:43
bluey, long time no see .... Wink
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