Hi there,

Just wondering if this update is applicable to the Sonar 2XL native version of hypercanvas? Nothing on the cakewalk site yet ..

Anyone know?

Thanks in advance,

a.

aaron wrote:

Hi there, Just wondering if this update is applicable to the Sonar 2XL native version of hypercanvas? Nothing on the cakewalk site yet ..

I don't know for sure, but I'd assume that since the update covers both vst and dxi versions, it does.

I have Sonar 2.2 (not XL), but not Hypercanvas, so I can't tell you by experience.

Doug

aaron, there is just the Virtual Sound Canvas in Sonar, there is no Sonar version of Hypercanvas.

Since Cakewalk and Roland have formed a "strategic alliance" that could change soon though.

DOH !! Just came back to say I'd noticed my mistake *feels idiotic*

Thanks for the replies guys, I don't really use it so I'd forgotten whilst away from my machine ..

Cheers lads ,

a.

aaron:

I elevate myself to Doh! on a good day (only one octave up, too)

I've played around a little with an earlier of the Hypercanvas and was disappointed and agreed with those reviews I read a couple of years ago. But I'm not up to date.

I've finally got a pretty good little DAW, but there are a few things I need before I really consider myself serious. I'll always use soundfonts and samples because of the creativity involved, but I want a sound module that can just give me what I want when I want it.

Not that I can afford it, but I'm waiting for the Sampletank2 fallout, because even at $500 it's a lot chepaer than the really great soundfont collections way out of my range.

I'm hoping this "strategic alliance" between Cakewalk and Roland can get me on an affordable Edriol path I can believe in. So I'm really curious about the current version of Hypercanvas and HQ Orchestral units. I've heard the samples - which always sound great - but I'm searching out hearty endorsements.

Most of the I've-Got-More-Equipment-Than-God guys I know that tolerate me always admit that they're are some really good sounds in the VSC and Hypercanvas, but there are so many that aren't very good that you tend to forget about the good ones.

I always loved Roland synths, I don't know why so many Edirol sounds just sound so cheap and thin. I hope they've got some major offering planned and I can get it in Sonar3XL dirt cheap.

But in the absence of that people like EMU need to realize they can sell an 18 month old soundfont collection at $1500 to 10,000 people, but they could probably sell it at $99 to 300,000 people. And that's better because that same 300,000 are going to be there for the next release too.

Meanwhile there's still this niche markets for soundmodules. I want one and my quickest route is through Edirol. I pray Roland intends to get into the soft-synth/sampler/sound-module world bigtime and turns the market on it's ear.

Someone's going to do it eventually, and an alliance with Cakewalk with the high visibility of Sonar seems ideal for selling the idea to your stockholders.

Besides, Roland owes me a couple hours of my life (and 1000s of other Sonar users) who tried to gleam a fraction of insight as to how the VSC2 was different than the VSC.

declan wrote:

... I always loved Roland synths, I don't know why so many Edirol sounds just sound so cheap and thin. I hope they've got some major offering planned and I can get it in Sonar3XL dirt cheap. But in the absence of that people like EMU need to realize they can sell an 18 month old soundfont collection at $1500 to 10,000 people, but they could probably sell it at $99 to 300,000 people. And that's better because that same 300,000 are going to be there for the next release too. ..... Besides, Roland owes me a couple hours of my life (and 1000s of other Sonar users) who tried to gleam a fraction of insight as to how the VSC2 was different than the VSC.

My first exposure to VSC was with Band-in-a-Box (which I still use), they had a bundle that included it. It sounded so-so and had horrible latency - even more so than the M$ DirectX one (that Roland was involved with as well)... it could convert a SMF to a WAV file easily and "acceptably".

The DXI version that came with Sonar didn't sound a whole lot better, but at least it didn't have the latency problems.

I gave up on it... I got a decent soundfont player and a couple of Sonic Implant soundfonts. You can get nice set of GM/GS soundfonts and a soundfont player (Jeskola, Fruity, Livesynth, BS-1, or whatever) for noticably less than the Edirol package, and don't have to mess with the the random CD check copy protection. Besides, my keyboard's a Yamaha, so I'd prefer XG to GS.

I use soundfonts for the natural instruments (which I admit I don't use nearly enough), to balance out softsynths.


Doug