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AuthorTopic: Battery question ( Battery vs. MPC 2000 )
pheeleep
Posted: 7th September 2003 21:02
Hello,

With the Akai MPC 2000, when hitting a pad, you can choose whether you want the to sample to play until the end once you hit the pad, or, you can choose to have the note play the sound as long as you are hitting the pad. When you let go of the pad, the sample stops playing.

So you could have a sample that says "check it out".

1) You hit the pad and let go of the pad, the sample plays "check this out", regardless of how long you had your finger on the pad.

2) You hit the pad and let go several times in a row, holding the pad for a longer period of time plays more of the sample: Che--check- check this out.

Is this possible in Battery? Also, is there a "note repeat" button similar to the mpc 2000 where if you hit this "note repeat" button and then hit a pad, you get a machine gun like effect for the sound being triggered? every 1/16th, 1/4, 1/32.. whatever you set it to ). I really need to know if Battery can do these two things. These are very cool features of the MPC 2000 and I am looking for a VST drum sampler at this time to link to my MPC. If Battery does not do this, do you know of a cool drum sampler plug in that does?

Thanks in advance!!!
AD80
Posted: 7th September 2003 22:36
1)Battery has a volume envelope that can control Attack, Hold, Decay, Sustain, Release, on each cell separately so you can adjust exactly where the sample starts, ends and how long it takes to get there.

2)Yeah there is a loop feature that works like the note repeat on the MPC.


You might want to check out the Akai MPD-16. The editing speed and sound of Battery put the MPC to shame. Battery is just plain faster and better. One click to reverse a sample, one click to adjust volume, pitch etc blah blah. the list goes on.
AD80
Posted: 7th September 2003 22:38
Oh other drum machines to check out....... FXpansion DR008, LinPlug RMIV, FruityLoops, Reason Re-drum.
mojogigolo
Posted: 8th September 2003 02:36
there is a 'mode' button on the battery amp envelope -when its off, you have an ad envelope,and when its on it also has a sustain level and release time, so this should do the trick.

you can snap loop points to time, right down to divisions of a single sixteenth, so your mechanical rolls are easy too.
Aff
Posted: 8th September 2003 08:05
hmm, mpc1000 due very soon (A4 size). sell your mpc2000 now! in any case, the fact that battery is 'faster' to use will not persuade the army of mpc users to up and sell their mpcs.

they have them for a reason. fluid, intuitive and creative sequencing. you just can't get that from any computer software. i don't know why, it just is.

if your worried about leaving your pc the mpc1000 will be able to connect via usb.
pheeleep
Posted: 8th September 2003 09:13
Thanks guys for your help!

You might want to check out the Akai MPD-16. The editing speed and sound of Battery put the MPC to shame. Battery is just plain faster and better. One click to reverse a sample, one click to adjust volume, pitch etc blah blah. the list goes on.

I agree with the editing speed. A vst plugin on a computer will always be easier to edit than a hardware unit. There is no doubt about that.

I haven’t heard the “sound” of Battery, but the MPC 2000 sound is far from being average. Actually, the “sound” at the outputs is great. It sounds VERY good. I have heard in some circles that the MPC 3000 sounds even better, but I can assure that the MPC 2000 sound has nothing to envy from other units. The sound is "hot"!

On My Mpc 2000, it also takes one click to do the same things you mention above.

hmm, mpc1000 due very soon (A4 size). sell your mpc2000 now! in any case, the fact that battery is 'faster' to use will not persuade the army of mpc users to up and sell their mpcs.

Now why would I sell my MPC 2000 ( the original MPC 2000, not the xl version ) for an MPC 1000? You guys do realize that the MPC 1000 is most likely a cheaper, stripped down version of the MPC 2000. I guess we'll find out when more info is made available. My guess is that Akai wanted to make a cheaper MPC and that is what the 1000 is. If I was to change, I would get an MPC 3000 or 4000.

Anyway, I won’t sell my MPC. Not in a million years. I have a lot of sentimental value attached to it Smile. I used it exclusively for years until I got my FL Studio set up. I know it inside out and it's still pretty quick to get things done in it. I have to admit though, that now that I have a cool computer with FL Studio, I find myself using that most of the time.

I pretty much just want to just use the MPC 2000 primarily as a controller now ( to use the pads ) in FL Studio and am looking for a cool drum sampler VST to link it up to, because setting up layers in Fl Studio is a B*tch! Smile That's why I was asking about Battery.

I appreciate you guys taking the time to answer my questions. Take care.
AD80
Posted: 8th September 2003 10:51
pheeleep wrote:


I pretty much just want to just use the MPC 2000 primarily as a controller now ( to use the pads ) in FL Studio and am looking for a cool drum sampler VST to link it up to, because setting up layers in Fl Studio is a B*tch! Smile That's why I was asking about Battery.

I appreciate you guys taking the time to answer my questions. Take care.


Hay wassup. Thats exactly why I mentioned the MPD-16. Its better to use that as a controller that feels like the MPC. Its a lot cheaper, you could sell your MPC and get the MPD, Battery, and a new computer probably Smile. Unless you're sequencing on the MPC theres really no point of it being there. Thats why I got rid of mine. I dont give my tools any seniority. If there is something faster and easier I'll get that. Out with the old. But I can see you're pretty attached to your 2000xl. A lot of people use it as a controller with diffrent drum machines, it should be no problem. Good luck with whatever you get. Smile
pheeleep
Posted: 8th September 2003 12:51
Hi AD80,

I am indeed attached to my MPC 2000 ( not xl!!!! ).

I can't sell it because I have hundreds of old beat on ZIP disks that use the optional effects card that I bought for the MPC.

Plus, I need to keep it if I have clients that come in with MPC disks.

Take it easy!
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