never heard such a perfect guitar sound from a synth

is there any vsti (not sample player) which can emulate a guitar in this quality ?

http://www.clavia.se/G2/G2Guitar.mp3

This demo was created by keyboard player, composer and sound designer Åke Danielson. The patch utilizes physical modeling to simulate the sound of plucked strings - in this case the sound of an acoustic guitar. A StringOscillator module is used to generate pitched notes out of very short noise bursts. A Reverb module is also used to give the sound a nice ambience.

Note that the sound is synthesized and that no samples are used!

It's very impressive but I still don't find it convincing on its own. There's something about the way each note sustains that gives it away to my ears. Maybe it needs more vibrato or something as the sustain dies? Perhaps in a mix it would work very well.

Excuse if this is a dumb question, but is the G2 hardware or a VSTi?

Impressive indeed. However, I'm pretty sure the quality of the sequencing plays a major role in this very example. Both the dynamics and velocity ranges are surprising.

I have been waiting a long time for this instrument and finally spent the money I set aside for it to get the Spectrasonics trio. I hope it makes the November release. I know what to ask for whe Christmas comes.

Robert

kevvvv, the Nord G2 is a computer controlled (ie. build the systems using a computer) hardware modular. And it will probably cost a fair shitload of money.

http://www.clavia.se/G2/index.htm

And yes, pretty damn impressive! That is the best example of physical modelling I have ever heard!

Wish I had the money for a G2 and a Nord Electro. (been drooling over these in the stores since they first came).

But it doesn't have much to do with plugin instruments, does it?

hm, is there any vsti which can do guitars in this quality ?

This is what samples can do. Still leaves physical modelling in the dark.

http://www.yellowtools.de/download/mp3s/nylon.mp3

Not my piece. Wish it was.

borealoid wrote:

kevvvv, the Nord G2 is a computer controlled (ie. build the systems using a computer) hardware modular. And it will probably cost a fair shitload of money. http://www.clavia.se/G2/index.htm

The rack version is supposed to sell for $1000US. Not bad at all. The keyboaard version is around $1800-1900. I love the system on the current Nord Modular and wish there was a VSTi with the same elegant module builder. It is the closest thing I have seen to really draging individual modules into a rack and connecting them with patch cords. Much easier to program than Reaktor, Tassman or Vaz. The G2 rack will not have the knob bank that the current version has, but I don't think I will miss it. Not at that price.

Robert

$899 from novamusik. Shit.. im getting one.

best acoustic guitar sound Ever produced by a synth(no samples)

nothing I heard can beat that g2 thing

i think steam pipe from reaktor comes close.. still sounds not real.

http://www.panicnow.com/steam.mp3 <-me trying to sound like the G2 demo

moroe wrote:

hm, is there any vsti which can do guitars in this quality ?

Try ReFX's SLAYER. I have been told that it is pretty amazing, too, although I don't know how good it is at emulating an accoustic guitar.

And there's of course Virtual Guitarist by Steinberg. It's based on samples, but gives you quite a lot of control over the sound.

Impressive emulation. Not a VSTi, but I think the Korg Oasys physical modeling is up there as well. Couldn’t find the particular mp3 demo I was looking for (I think it was made by Michael McInnis) but this one is pretty good, too:

http://www.korg.com/audio/synths/a_guitar_3_(small_pluck).mp3

/Yoss

Yeah, Korg's plucked string models are quite good...I use the one on my Prophecy a lot (great brass model, too). But I'm still gettin' me a Nord G2.

the best guitars I've ever heard were some of the classic transwave superwavetable samples for the Ensoniq EPS/ASR-10-

it still amazes me- especially now with VSTis that advanced forms of wavetables and modulatable loops-within-samples haven't become the dominant form of digital synthesis- wavetables are just superior for complex sounds and accurately evolving sounds-

by now due to large memory sizes I thought we would have "multi-dimentional" wavetables- where instead of simply moving back and forth through wave tranformations in a linear wavetable- you would have a digital matrix of several different axes of timbral evolution that you could freely move through-

kevvvvv wrote:

This is what samples can do. Still leaves physical modelling in the dark. http://www.yellowtools.de/download/mp3s/nylon.mp3 Not my piece. Wish it was.

Speaking as a classical guitarist, I'd have to say that while the Yellow Tools demo sounds quite good for that style of music, I have yet to hear a "nylon guitar" sample library -- and I own the Yellow Tools nylon guitar for both Giga and Kontakt, the XSample nylon guitar, and a few others -- that offers the variety of attacks and colors that classical guitarists spend years learning to achieve. For that reason, I get more fun out of messing around with the PM emulations. The problem with PM emulations is that they invariably have a "sweet" range in which they sound right on, and then other ranges that don't sound so good, unless you twiddle all the knobs. I've been thinking about sampling one or two of my favorite PM soft guitars to Giga or Kontakt, just to put together a pseudo-classical guitar that sounds good throughout its range.

Greg

Another modelled one from the Oasys:

http://www.hvsynthdesign.com/audio/eleguitar2.mp3

Done with Harm Vissers electric guitar plugin.

LOL, if I played/sounded like that I'd get fired

Hehe, thousands of pounds spent on research and development, and they model......cheesy widdling! errrr, sounds like what I do when I get back from the pub.

Well, I haven't heard anything like that from a VSTi.

Don't know about the realism but the expressiveness is the point for me as a synthesist.

BTW, Harm is an independent developer who has made over 200 PM plugins by himself.

Hehe, just ignore me, its just guitarist snobbery - we have to sneer at keyboard players geetar emulations- comes with the job. Actually it sound quite convincing for what it was, just not a fan of solo widdling meself, unless its Kerry King or Markleford!

Point taken and understood