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AuthorTopic: access virus c
Aeros
Posted: 6th December 2003 10:04
Ok, i've been saving up, and with christmas around the corner i'm going to be getting an access virus c very soon. However, I've heard that there are latency issues with fl studio. Obviously, I can't have that in a 2000$ synth keyboard. Some people say that it is fl studio's fault, other people blame the soundcard. I want to know if it's going to screw up for me too, or if there is any way around it? I desperately want an access, and i must find a way to make it work!
T-CM11
Posted: 6th December 2003 10:30
Latency:
Fault=
1. non-ASIO2 cards e.g. soundblaster and lookalikes (even Audigy ASIO is not that great (48khz,..)
2. combination windows-computerhardware (choose xp, install fresh and finetune a bit!) - Do NOT use a preinstalled OS and do NOT install 2000 programs and utils..

I have: XP1700+, 512RAM, Asus A7V266E, 60GB Maxtor 7200 HD, Terratec DMXfire,... works perfectly, 2-5 ms latency (great!), no crashes, FLStudio 4.12, etc.. Smile

So stop blaming the software and don't buy a soundblaster Evil or Very Mad (which is great for games, btw)
danielmm
Posted: 6th December 2003 10:43
Agreed, and by the way.....good choice of synths....you won't be disappointed.
dano
Aeros
Posted: 6th December 2003 16:57
is the m-audio delta series good? i like the 1010 lt right now
danielmm
Posted: 6th December 2003 17:44
I have an M-Audio Delta 44. 4 ins, 4 outs. Latency is excellent as it uses ASIO drivers and sound quality is excellent. I have heard that there were problems with the 1010 a while back but surely it must be cleared up by now....usually driver or compatibility problems can make or break a piece of hardware but I would say overall M-Audio is good value for the dollar. Wink

dano
TennesseeVic
Posted: 6th December 2003 18:40
You know you've been programming too much when you see this topic and think "access virus.c"? Someone has found the source?

And on a saturday night, no less.

Victor.
genghis
Posted: 6th December 2003 22:42
danielmm wrote:
I have heard that there were problems with the 1010 a while back but surely it must be cleared up by now....usually driver or compatibility problems can make or break a piece of hardware but I would say overall M-Audio is good value for the dollar. Wink

The biggest problem with the 1010 had to do with faulty capacitors in the first generation of cards that went out. They have long since fixed that with a more robust part and most of us who had cards with the old capacitors have had them replaced under warantee.

On that topic, they also have a lifetime warantee, and I've had great results with getting service. Besides having my Delta 1010 fixed, I had to get an updated EPROM for my Midisport 8x8. I live close enough that I was able to pick up the chip the same day that I called. With the Delta, I dropped it off on a Monday and picked it up on either Tuesday or Wednesday.
VeXKoN
Posted: 7th December 2003 02:39
i have the virus c and love it. also have an rme card, and you can't go wrong there Razz
MarkM
Posted: 7th December 2003 08:25
Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 12:57 am

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is the m-audio delta series good? i like the 1010 lt right now


I have the Delta 66 and it has been great.
stu.macQ
Posted: 7th December 2003 23:27
VeXKoN wrote:
i have the virus c and love it. also have an rme card, and you can't go wrong there Razz


Same here. Virus C and an RME Hammerfall, although for what it's worth ...

You'll only notice latency if you're monitoring the signal THROUGH your soundcard, and even then, a lot of soundcards have direct 0-latency monitoring options. When you record with ASIO input in FL Studio, you'll have to manually compensate for the ASIO delay induced by the recording process. This is a limitation of FL Studio (for the time being), as MOST sequencer packages will automatically compensate for it. All this means really is that you'll have to move the recorded audio over a few milliseconds, which is trivial to do, and not much more than the trimming you'd be doing for MIDI timing slur as well.

I'd recommend that you invest in a good MIDI interface for your machine to minimize the timing inaccuracies inherent to MIDI. I use a Steinberg MIDEX 8, and it was absolutely worth the money!

(stu.macQ)
Mighty_Hero
Posted: 8th December 2003 21:01
I own a virus kc, an audiophile 2496, and compose solely with fl studio. The latency issue is only a "problem" when recording LIVE live audio into fl studio. I put problem in " "'s because it is the audiophile drivers give little clicks in the audio recording around 528 samples. What I do is this:
I load a midi out channel and play the virus how I want it. Hit record, then once recorded the MIDI side (won't obviously put clicks in the audio), I change the latency to like 1344 (still VERY low ms) and then hit record the actual audio the MIDI notes are playing from the virus. (the cool thing about this is fl studio's recording has a 'latency compensation' option for I suppose this very reason. So once the notes are actually recorded to wave and in my song, I can then switch the buffers back to 336 and hear the track played back perfectly.

my two cents.
VitaminD
Posted: 8th December 2003 21:14
VeXKoN wrote:
i have the virus c and love it. also have an rme card, and you can't go wrong there Razz


I take it you're not the poor college student anymore.. Razz Surprised

..makes me want to graduate all the quicker! Laughing
andywanders
Posted: 8th December 2003 21:17
TC wrote:
Latency:
Fault=
1. non-ASIO2 cards e.g. soundblaster and lookalikes (even Audigy ASIO is not that great (48khz,..)

So stop blaming the software and don't buy a soundblaster Evil or Very Mad (which is great for games, btw)


I agree... Don't get SB. But the Audigy is fine, the sample frequency you refer to (48k) does not affect the latency, only the size of the .wav files. I use an Audigy Platinum and I get 5ms latency - No problem.
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