hi all,

as the title says.....i want 2 creat chimes (those metal rods givin a high crispy sound) using vst instrument.

I use Orion 5 as a host 4 my synths....using the sampler playing glasspiano-sample gets close but not close enough. I tried dmi-hammer and again, not close enough, i looked 4 soundfonts containing the chimes but no luck thusfar.

So my question would be if any1 can help me creating or push me in the right direction on how 2 creat chimes,

i got the cm-plugins, the stuff from the Kysmagazine (microterra, reactor session 1, synt 1, evm-synths, triangle, crystal and some the free synths who were posted here ) so if any could help me out on this 1i would be thankfull.


greetz


Lucifer

synth generated/synthetic chimes? long decay on your amp/filter env, med-high filter setting with a large amount of resonance and (the trick), stick a triangle wave about 3 octaves about your main note. This adds the high end 'zing' associated with chimes...


benw

Chimes, bells, in fact almost anything metallic (apart from maybe hats) is definitely the domain of FM synthesis - having said that, I've not come across any freebies that are detailed enough to get decent chimes with. Personally I use my old DX100 when I need that type of sound, and of course DX7s were even better at it. FM7 is the VSTi that immediately springs to mind.

You need to set the frequency modulation to odd settings that are inbetween normal octaves, and fairly high up the spectrum. A good way is to have one oscillator as the initial hit with the appropriate quick envelope attack and decay, then one or more as the body of the chime with long releases. One oscillator at the same frequency as the hit and others at different frequencies gives more realism. If you have several oscillators you need the main one at a true octave setting (to make it useful musically) and the other distonal ones at a lower level. A bit long-winded to explain in words, as DXs are notoriously long-winded to programme, but you can definitely do it with FM7 - isn't there one called FM Heaven or something too?

Another idea - most standard VAs won't make chimes very well, but I remember making decent ones on my old OSCar - get the Imposcar demo - with the additive section, you'll be able to do it - the secret is to use lots of higher harmonics and not too many lower ones. And it's very easy to program on Imposcar - very intuitive.
Another additive one would be Cameleon.

No one mentioned "ring modulation". Since you've got Orion, doesn't that come with WASP?

Try this:
* filter set to LP FAT
* filter CUT set to just left of 12 O'clock
* filter RES set to 7 O'Clock (minimum value)
* filter ENV set to just right of 12 O'clock
* square wave on both oscillators
* CRS knob on osc2 set to 10 semitones
* RING MOD set to on
* LINK set to on
* ATT 7 O'Clock
* DEC 3 O'Clock
* SUS 7 O'Clock
* REL 3 O'Clock

you need vivaldiMX or ganymed. these two excellent freebies do FM very well. of the two, vivaldi is a little easier to get your head around.

in vivaldi, try modulating the fundamental with an osc pitched 2 octaves plus two semitones (ie, 26 semitones) -- that will get you a nice timbre; i assume you can handle the ASDR for the chimes.

if memory serves, vivaldi also features self modulation of the osc's, so you can use that to control the chimes 'brightness'.

that would be two of vivaldi's eight osc's (four pairs of two), so for a fatter sound just rinse and repeat. other nice chime ratios (in addition to the classic 26 semi's), are 22 and 33.

theres also a freebie about callled bella
if you do a search im sure you will find it

good luck

or as your usin orion(sorry just noticed )
hit the sampler agin and have a look under world percussion rather than acoustic,some good ones in there too

http://www.alapage.com/mx/?id=156801072951486&donnee_appel=REF00&tp=F& type=3&DIQ_NUMERO=139469&devise=&fulltext=BRUITAGES&support=CD&sv=X_L

If you don't mind of creating your own sampler's patches this is an CD excellent to scrap some samples up

-Sorry but i couldn't find a link in english, ( but if you dont bother too much...)

I ran across a decent chimey sort of sound more or less by accident with mda ePiano, +decimate, bandpass filter, PSP PianoVerb, mda Detune, and Ambience.

But I'd agree that FM or samples is the more traditional and simpler way to go

Vivaldi and Ganymede are very nice. Mda also has a free fm synth (Dx something or other).
They all have pre-sets. Find a chimey one and tweak it.