Just curious - what do you think of it if you've had it for a bit, and how do you like the interface? I'll be in the market for a good multifaceted percussion library shortly, and this looks like it would be a great toy

post links to your demos, etc if you have em too

It "looks" impressive...
Something I might need in the future.

Choices choices...
I decided on BFD, because it fits my ol 1-4-5 better.

BFD does look good - but my need for acoustic "rock" kits is minimal at best - the diversity of the ethnic percussion, and the tweakability of the layers/patches/etc that their engine looks like it provides may be a killer combo.

Odds are if I do end up needing more rocky drums, I'll pick up bfd too

Yes,I've got a version of Culture,and the sounds and the realism after a bit of twiddling is excellent!I'm a percussionist myself and been playing for 20 yrs,playing semi-pro,and I couldn't record the sounds as good myself,very realisic.
peebs

Hi,

Keep in mind that the new version will require you to use a dongle as its method of copy protection. This may set off a bunch of people. I know that I will avoid this product if I can and instead buy products that are more open.

If I'm going to have to start using dongles for all of my software, forcing me to go to USB Hubs, I'll simply avoid it.

Just wanted to give a little bit of info for someone who isn't already aware of this. Please don't start a copy protection debate over this.

Nando

Nando wrote:

Keep in mind that the new version will require you to use a dongle as its method of copy protection. This may set off a bunch of people. I know that I will avoid this product if I can and instead buy products that are more open. If I'm going to have to start using dongles for all of my software, forcing me to go to USB Hubs, I'll simply avoid it.

Well, I'm of the other camp - I prefer a dongle to challenge/response* - which is what it appears they have used in the past (based on exploration of their website).

Either is intrusive compared to "require disk to install or update" or "serial number", unfortunately.

* I acknowledge that both NI and Spectrasonics have worked hard to make C/R less disagreeable.

Doug

There is a looooooooooooooooong thread ( more than 500 replies, can you imagine !!! ) about that sensitive subjet : the new yellow tools dongle
On nothern sound source's forum http://www.northernsounds.com/ubb/NonCGI/ultimatebb.php?ubb=forum;f=3

Good luck folks !!!

:

I've just received my Yellow Tool Culture today. I'll install it this week end and get back to you with a comment asap. I'm quite excited.

I bought it just a couple of days before the v1.5 annoucement and it's the brand new version that came to my door.

Actually, if i had knew the USB dongle thing i'm not sure i would have decided to buy it..

thanks for the info everyone

Peebs -any demos or songs youve done using culture that you can share? I'd love to see what people are doing with it in their own productions!

Wopelka - very cool (and no - i haven't forgotten about the remix, been a weird month it's going to get done, just please be patient with me )

About the C/R. I honestly could care less about it, and I'm not going to join in the pro/con discussion they have at northernsounds. I prefer dongles to NI style online reg, and part of their argument also seems to be against sampleware using proprietary interfaces instead of releasing open format libraries. If I wanted a library, I'd buy a library Half of what I find attractive about culture is the interaction with their custom designed UI, and better recall/patch management than the mess I have in my sample drive

I just want quick, easy access to sounds, and purpose built modules are really attractive to me (GPO and Spectrasonics suite are rediculously easy to use and patch handling is a dream )

Michael

endmusik wrote:

Wopelka - very cool (and no - i haven't forgotten about the remix, been a weird month it's going to get done, just please be patient with me ) Michael

the remix...i must say i gave up on expecting anything...
so it's cool you talk about it

i know you had a weird month. at least i know some things... can you sit down again now ?

Cheers

ohh, i forgot the most important thing i had to say:

you can try a demo of Culture (did you know ?):

just here

Hey wopelka

There is no demo for OSX Audio Units yet

and about the remix - I'm a man of my word Just short on time sometimes

endmusik wrote:

and about the remix - I'm a man of my word Just short on time sometimes

Ain't that the truth.

Devon

devon - you calling me out ?

endmusik wrote:

devon - you calling me out ?

Your name's not Michael now? When did you change it to Out???

Devon

I think for a product that big (and expensive) there should be more audio demo's. Lots more, like the spectrasonics have. I only like one of the demo's that is up and thats not enough to make me buy it. Just MHO.

AD80 wrote:

I think for a product that big (and expensive) there should be more audio demo's. Lots more, like the spectrasonics have. I only like one of the demo's that is up and thats not enough to make me buy it. Just MHO.

Try the downloadable demo? And to be honest, that didn't sell me either. I like and use ethnic drums, but not all that often to justify that cost. I have enough at my disposal already.

Devon

Culture rocks !

just check my review out for more details.
I might post a demo track soon.

Cheers

I did the demo.100 megs of nothing,in my opinion.With a download of that size,I expected more diversity,to sell the product.Or is having 4 instruments take up that much space supposed to impress with sheer gargantuantism?The "synth" engine does nothing,so far as I could tell from my experiments.I might like Culture more if I could have experienced its alleged breadth and depth,and I do like other Yellow Tools sounds I've heard.But frankly,Culture comes off as a humbug.This experience,contrasted with that of Plugsound Free makes me think that that series' drum/percussion module may be my solution.

yeah, this a point a didn't raise in my review:

Culture needs 12giga of your HD...

but i do think it's worth it.

I never tried Plugsound vol.3/Drums but i suspect it doen't cover the same range of instruments.

Culture is mainly focused on acoustic percussions while PS is more targeted to be an acoustic/electro drummer.

the thing that annoyed me about culture is the lack of automation on the demo

now I hear that 1.5 has this - but i cant downlaod that version to find out cos the demos the old one!

how to not sell your product 101

It probably is the case that Culture at 12 gigs covers its territory in greater depth than Plugsound.And despite the cost and size of it(and the added expense of buying a DVD reader)I wanted to like it.My point was simply that the demo didn't sound better quality than Plugsound Free,and seemed less tweakable than I'd like my dedicated percussion rompler to be,so by price performance criteria I would go for cheaper option.Also,I have read that Plugsound does include some ethnic percussion,and I am pleased with the Emu cd Old World Instruments,which I have used Translator and CD Xtract to get into VSampler and NNXT,as well as into wav for DR008 and ReDrum.And there are tons of other ethnic percussion libraries to choose from.It is in that context that Culture for the size and money loses me.

Hi,I've been playing percussion for twenty years or and I've got Culture and if your serious about your percussion this is the one to get.But you could try Best Services PLP120 percussion "looper" there's a demo in Music Tech & Computer Music magazines which is a lot cheaper and it might be better for the way you work,anyway try it out.There should be a free demo on Best Services web site!

Bassballjg wrote:

It probably is the case that Culture at 12 gigs covers its territory in greater depth than Plugsound.And despite the cost and size of it(and the added expense of buying a DVD reader)

Dude! www.pricewatch.com is your friend. $24 for a DVD reader SHIPPED. That's going out to dinner money with your wife/girlfriend. There really isn't much of an excuse to NOT have a DVD drive anymore.

Devon

$24 for a DVD reader is very good news indeed.Thanks.