Hi,Want to get a organ,in software,and I was going to get B4 but I see there's a "new kid on the block" Charlie.As anyone heard both?And what did you think?

Hmm, dunno, but before you spend any cash, try this bugger;

http://www.soundfonts.it/vst/ORGANized/

Rather impressive I thought.

or do a search for Dirtbag or Lightbag

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or do a search for Dirtbag or Lightbag

The Bag is here:
http://s93683780.onlinehome.us/bag2Home.htm

ik.

There is also ZR-3, from Rumpelrausch Taips.

It is freeware, and it's sounding very very good :
http://rumpelrausch.de.vu/


Guillaume

NuBi, is the answer,

From what I can make out, Charlie is UVI-based... look very closely at those screenshots, what look like drawbars are in fact controllers for the ADSR envelope

Doesn't mean it won't sound good, but still... makes you wonder.

Think PlugSound module specifically for Organ sounds

The difference will be that B4 is an emulation of a B3, whereas Charlie has a wide range of organs covered.

Put it this way, Hammond Organs are pretty complex beasts, what with the tonewheels and all. What makes you think any sampled sound set would do as good a job as one of the best pieces of modelling on the market?

I personally use B4

What about daOrgan?

Phaedo wrote:

Put it this way, Hammond Organs are pretty complex beasts, what with the tonewheels and all. What makes you think any sampled sound set would do as good a job as one of the best pieces of modelling on the market?

This is so true - it took a great deal of work to get NuBi's tonewheel engine to sound "right" in terms of consistant phase/frequency relationships. Any non-trivial fixed length organ sample will not have this - particularly if the scale is "well tempered". In this case the frequency set is based on irrational numbers - there is simply no valid loop point.

-And- the inuitive approach (drawbars frequencies based on the root frequency of each note) does not work either ...

Try this simple test with your favorite Hammond Emulation VSTi : (1) turn off all effects (no leslie / no vibrato) (2) completely pull out the 8' drawbar and the 1 3/5' drawbar - only those two for this test(!) (3) play middle C and the E above high C. Engine designs which use the intuitive approach will have a very strong beat between the natural fifth harmonic of the middle C (the 1 3/5' drawbar) and the well tempered diatonic third from the E above high C.

Have fun!

--pj geerlings

i tried some of those B3 emulators....and i still use the NI B4...i do think it could use an update for tone and thickness but if they put more R&D in B4 it will seriously become more of the standard and more playable...i like to get percy poppy sound like on Tower of power like funk organ...and i think a better distortion...and a more chorusy leslie.....they did a fine job...why did they just stop at 1.1 ?

Check out Lightbag II. It's free so you've got nothing to loose.