Hi all.., new to this forum.

Any of you know of any plans for a Arp 2600 Vsti? I would like a Grey Meanie. Someone should make it...and they better hurry up, the meanies are about to vanish from the face of the earth!!

Ivan from Men Without Hats just sold his 2600 on Ebay for $25,000 (seriously!) And figuring it took this long to perfect the Oddity as a VSTi, I reckon a 2600 might be around in, say 2600? Oh yeah, beta testing and pre-trial versions - better make it 2601.

If you're really Vince Clarke, then you shouldn't be here should you? I thought you hated MIDI and only stuck with Doepfer and all that in your own 'little world'.

$25,000

I've got dozens of 'em out the back.

Seriously.

J Dub wrote:

Seriously.

Oh, I believe you.

Ah, but did it go for $25,000 because it was a 2600, or did it go for $25,000 because it belonged to Ivan from Men Without Hats?

I seem to recall people paying big dollars for second hand gear from a Nothing Studios clearout just because there was a chance that Trent Reznor might have used it.

People do some weird shit sometimes

You might get close using Vaz Modular.

Robert

There was a 2600 in mint condition going for $3000 around here(Twin Cities)about a year or so ago.$25,000's pretty outrageous,no matter who owned it...
ew

About 15 years ago I picked up a 2600 (minus keyboard) from a pawn shop in North Hollywood for $100.00. That was before analogs were back in vogue, I guess.

I later got a Minimoog from that same shop for $100.00 too.

Still got them...

I think it was about 5 years ago that I sold my MiniMoog for $500 because I could not get the key bed repaired. The contact bar was warped and tarnished so it could not hold a note. One year later when the analog craze hit I could have gotten $1500 for it in the same condition.

Robert

VinceClarke wrote:

Hi all.., new to this forum. Any of you know of any plans for a Arp 2600 Vsti? I would like a Grey Meanie. Someone should make it...and they better hurry up, the meanies are about to vanish from the face of the earth!!

well..heres a very good synth-edit project by Richard Brooks

http://mysite.freeserve.com/synthedit/arp2600.htm

You will need Synthedit to load and use it however

http://www.synthedit.com

But you may be able to turn it into a VSTi with the file command in SE.

Tim

Arp 2600 for 100$?? You are either VERY clever or very lucky!

Is it possible that a vsti of 2600 is just to difficult, is it at all possible? Gmedia managed the oddity, dont you think there were a lot of the same circuits on the 2600??

Some info of what Arp 2600can do:
Almost all drums on homogenic by bjørk, Depeche Mode stuff on Speak and spell (Especially the funky bassdrum), ultra and exciter (Martin has 3 of them!!)

The original code for the Oddity by GMedia was modelled on Dave Spiers own Arp 2600 and all intentions at the time were to go in that direction, but they decided to see how an Odyssey emulation would fare instead. So who knows for the future, from what i've heard from Dave (i hope i aint speaking outta turn here ) it wouldnt mean masses of work to remodel the code if they decided in the future to go that way, i definately think it would sell loads and fit in quite nicely beside current products (MoogV) and future (Korg Ms20 va).

Wow!!!!!! i find it VERY hard to sit still now! This is great news. I suddenly feel a lot closer to getting a 2600 VSTi. Thanx a lot man for the info If you know this guy could you please ask him nicely....

Im taking timeout to sit alone and smile for 50 minuttes!!!!

I would'nt get too excited mate, they have been real busy with the impOSCar and are now working on a minimoog emulation in conjunction with Ohmforce, so i think that's gonna take up most of their time for the forseeable, but never say never eh?

As an aside, i dont know what kinda gear you have or wether your soft or hard synth based or what, but there is an awfull lot of gear out there that can take the place of a 2600, the Nord Micro Modular for instance is only about 250 quid now and is a brill piece of gear for learning about modular synthesis, and of course you get that Nord sound, which is different on the Modular than it is on the Nord lead, slightly fatter, and quite capable of emulating a 2600, there is also a 2600 reaktor ensemble if i'm not mistaken, course these things will not sound totaly like an Arp, but then again unless your really Vince Clarke will that matter

I have 2 nord leads and 1 nord modular, but those are general purpose synths, i`m longing for the Arp made spesific to be a 2600 and nothing else.

I just sent a mail to gmedia telling them to make it so things should move very quickly now i suppose

I`m not erasure`s clarke

VinceClarke wrote:

I have 2 nord leads and 1 nord modular, but those are general purpose synths, --- I`m not erasure`s clarke

Come on, don't try to hide now!
I've seen your 3 nords in your studio. It must be you!

Hey Mart!

No way Vincent Clarke have nords... hehehe
Say hello to Suzanne from me!

VinceClarke wrote:

Say hello to Suzanne from me!

Didn't I tell you to keep that secret?

oh, my goodness, my heros have risen

Oops...sorry `bout that....

David Blakely quoth i definately think it would sell loads and fit in quite nicely beside current products (MoogV) and future (Korg Ms20 va).

(My highlighting). Huh? Really? Mr Spiers... can I put a pre-order in on that please?

VinceClarke wrote:

Oops...sorry `bout that....

Please check your private message box when you get a chance.

tconrardy wrote:

VinceClarke wrote: Hi all.., new to this forum. Any of you know of any plans for a Arp 2600 Vsti? I would like a Grey Meanie. Someone should make it...and they better hurry up, the meanies are about to vanish from the face of the earth!! well..heres a very good synth-edit project by Richard Brooks http://mysite.freeserve.com/synthedit/arp2600.htm You will need Synthedit to load and use it however http://www.synthedit.com But you may be able to turn it into a VSTi with the file command in SE. Tim

well...I tried it myself, and actually made it into a VSTi. Not bad at all! It sure looks the same as a 2600! You can get really fat sounds as well. I would suggest trying it, and at least get your feet wet on a 2600 design, as it seems Richard was faithful to that.

Tim

Davey - close but not entirely correct. The Oddity was coded from our MkII Odyssey, however, we have a 2600 here which we cross-referenced the Oddity against during development. Aside from the patch routing and a few other (ahem)...oddities.....the sound of the 2600 is remarkably similar to the Odyssey and the Oddity.

I suppose it's not surprising though because ARP took the academically succesful 2600 and hardwired the various modules to create the portable Odyssey. Now the Odyssey (or Oddity) is a great way of learning the ARP programming methodology before moving on to a 2600 - if you can find one that is.

With regards our 2600 emulation, I've learnt the hard way that it's inadvisable to comment on future plans but I will say to Whyterabbyt that we're definitely not doing a plug-in MS20. I did see the Korg one at NAMM though and it seemed bloody good. Start saving now .

Thanks


Dave

Dave Spiers quoth I will say to Whyterabbyt that we're definitely not doing a plug-in MS20. I did see the Korg one at NAMM though and it seemed bloody good. Start saving now .

Yeah, it looks like I misinterpreted the original poster.

Never mind. Im expecting to make more than a few quid when I sell my flat in a few months, so I may just be able to scrape the pennies together for the Korg one.

Dave Spiers

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Davey - close but not entirely correct

Hey i only remember vague comments from ya from the dim and distant past But i do remember ya saying about how the code was extremely similar to how a 2600 would have been modelled.

ps: I take it NAMM was a success?, you get my last e-mail? or are ya still laughing at my efforts to construct a sentence?


whyterabbyt

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David Blakely quoth i definately think it would sell loads and fit in quite nicely beside current products (MoogV) and future (Korg Ms20 va). (My highlighting). Huh? Really? Mr Spiers... can I put a pre-order in on that please?

er....yeah .... i did mean current and future products on the market in a general sense....not from GMedia.......i'll watch my phrazing in future

Oops! My bad! Ivan was selling his Arp2500 - big HUGE modular Arp model.

I should be in Men Without Hats - I've ate mine!

Seriously!

that's probably good for a $10,000 price difference J Dub.

whyterabbyt wrote:

Yeah, it looks like I misinterpreted the original poster.

That's not your usual style

David Blakely wrote:

Hey i only remember vague comments from ya from the dim and distant past But i do remember ya saying about how the code was extremely similar to how a 2600 would have been modelled. ps: I take it NAMM was a success?, you get my last e-mail? or are ya still laughing at my efforts to construct a sentence?

Yep, you're right, the architecture is incredibly similar but the patching facility would have put it beyond the power of most computers then. Mind you on this new G5 I'm sitting at, it'd be a different story now

NAMM was good thanks and I just got back in work mode after taking a short break. I did get your email and I'll reply directly next early week. Don't worry though, from what I've seen all is good

Wanna hear a sad 2500 story?

I had a call from a friend in Germany who said his friend had won an Odyssey in a radio contest and as this guy wasn't a synthhead he wanted to sell it and wanted to find out how much it was worth. He'd already had an offer of 300DM from someone telling him it was junk and he was doing him a favour by taking it off his hands. I asked him to provide me with the model number and the email came back with the following:

1004, 1004p, 1023, 1046 etc etc

Any synthspotter will know that these are from a 2500 so after picking myself up off the floor I emailed back asking "What does it look like?"

"A big thing with three cabinets and a keyboard" came the reply.

"If it works, I'll drive over to Munich and take it off your hands for 15,000DM" I responded.

There was then an agonising wait while I assumed that he was trying to get it to make some noise. Unfortunately though while he was doing exactly that, the guy who'd offered the original sum turned up with 3000DM and persuaded him to sell it.



Ah well, the missus was pleased there wasn't yet another synth cluttering up the house


Dave

Yeah Dave that would have been a tough one to explain to your wife about why you have to move all the furniture out to make room for a synth.

I moved my M-tron box the other day, man I thought I was going to strain my back.

By the way Vince, Heather says Hi.

This is the one from the Reaktor user library:



It sounds okay in it's own right, but I wouldn't compare the sound to an ARP 2600. Nice GUI though (looks better than in image...although it is overly huge).

Dave Spiers:

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NAMM was good thanks and I just got back in work mode after taking a short break. I did get your email and I'll reply directly next early week. Don't worry though, from what I've seen all is good

Good to hear, look forward to hearing from you.

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Wanna hear a sad 2500 story?

Console yourself with the fact that it would probably have cost more to upkeep than to buy, i once seen a Rhodes Chroma with Expander for 200 quid in Sound Control in Glasgow, i made myself sick with the want for it...buti'm glad i never bought it from what i've heard you cant get the circuit boards for the voices anymore and most people who have one that still works are probably reduced to a 4 or 5 voice instrument as each voiceboard fails and the machine slowly implodes On the other hand i also once missed out on a Polymoog for 100 quid in a second hand shop at Andersons cross in Glasgow, i bought a Firstman sq1 instead........ I try not to think about it too much nowadays

David Blakely wrote:

Console yourself with the fact that it would probably have cost more to upkeep than to buy, i once seen a Rhodes Chroma with Expander for 200 quid in Sound Control in Glasgow, i made myself sick with the want for it...buti'm glad i never bought it from what i've heard you cant get the circuit boards for the voices anymore and most people who have one that still works are probably reduced to a 4 or 5 voice instrument as each voiceboard fails and the machine slowly implodes On the other hand i also once missed out on a Polymoog for 100 quid in a second hand shop at Andersons cross in Glasgow, i bought a Firstman sq1 instead........ I try not to think about it too much nowadays

Yea but even if it didn't work a 2500 would have made a fantastic ornament

BTW you didn't miss anything if it was a Polymoog keyboard as it was a total dog. We should start a thread on what stuff have you sold or passed up on because you were skint. I really was one of those ijuts who sold a 303 at a car boot sale for £30.00

Dave

Sold my Roland MC 202 to the band SECT for about 50 bucks. They wanted it because it had double control outputs as well as sounding beautiful (although at the time I did not see the point of it, I was heavy into industrial music, and it just did not seem to fit with what I was trying to achieve) and it went perfect with their massive vintage analogue setup. I really hate myself for doing that now. Ah well, kids, huh? Besides, I loved their music so much, and they were good friends of mine, so I don't really look at it as a loss so much as thier gain. They made one of the best albums I have ever heard shortly thereafter, and I like to think that it was used extensively!

Big too and free and good.

http://mysite.freeserve.com/synthedit/arp2600.htm

Like Tim said, use Synthedit and save as VSTi

http://www.synthedit.com/

Have fun !

Dave Spiers wrote:

Now the Odyssey (or Oddity) is a great way of learning the ARP programming methodology before moving on to a 2600 - if you can find one that is.

I got one. Doesn't everybody?

With the bad ass keyboard too!

Col.G aren't you afraid some of those freaky squelchy noises the 2600 can make will frighten your fish?

All of the fish died except for the African Red Cichlid. I don't know if he killed them or if the ARP did. lol

Dave Spiers:

Quote:

BTW you didn't miss anything if it was a Polymoog keyboard as it was a total dog. We should start a thread on what stuff have you sold or passed up on because you were skint. I really was one of those ijuts who sold a 303 at a car boot sale for £30.00 Dave

It was a Polymoog original, not the keyboard one with just presets, i still rate the strings off that thing, very nice indeed. Yeah that would make an interesting thread, i once had 2 Edp Wasps, my first synths, one ended up in a mates linen cupboard in bits and the other i swapped for a Moog Prodigy which a mate then subsequently took to a guy who was "in a band" at college, on the mission of selling it to him, i never saw it again, the guy f#@ked off with it and a Mc202 belonging to me as well

ps: saw the video on Sonic state of you demonstrating the impOSCar If Rockschool ever comes back you'll be cert to get the gig

well...not exactly a 2500, but I STILL got one of these.Its an EML 200. It came with a matrix keyboard which is not your standard keyboard, but had a metrix of 4x4 "telephone" type keys with a matrix of knobs to tune them. I tried different scales and such. However now, I guess I could get one of those Akai pad controllers and do the same thing with MIDI note values.

The EML 200 was mostly used for education, but now I use it for space mod sounds: 2 ring modulars, 3 oscillators, a weird module called the Electronic switch ( have not seen this in a VSTi before), 2 filters and real spring reverb:-)
I would love a VSTi of this baby as well.!May make a good synth edit project

I just downloaded the manual for Arp 2600, already halfway through it

Its so pleasing to hear that Dave Spiers will make it When computers get fast enough
At least thats my hope, im going of to do 8 songs done in August so have it ready in July