Hi....

How can i control my ES2 in Logic with my new MIDI controller Novation Remote 25???


How to record this automation (made in novation) inside arrange window??

PLZ HELP ME

thanks

I happened to see this so you are in luck.

Basically the very best way to control the ES2 is with Logic Control but even if you don't have that you can still automate parameter with a Remote 25 or Oxygen 8...


Have a look where it says "Don't have Logic Control?'

http://www.emagic.de/support/tipsNtricks/parameter.php?lang=EN

And more thing..

"This environment lets you take any eight remote faders and route them to any function within Logic using controller-numbers."
http://www.swiftkick.com/lugenv/midi/cc-rider.zip

Lady J wrote:

I happened to see this so you are in luck. Basically the very best way to control the ES2 is with Logic Control but even if you don't have that you can still automate parameter with a Remote 25 or Oxygen 8... Have a look where it says "Don't have Logic Control?' http://www.emagic.de/support/tipsNtricks/parameter.php?lang=EN

thanks Lady J....but unfortunatly i use Logic 5.2(PC) (not logic 6)

than???

Can anyone help me here?????? is that so dificult??

Download the upgrade to 5.5 on www.emagic.de


It's free and should have the automation features. You don't need 6 for automation just for freeze.

Are u sure that it's possible to automate ES2 in 5.5 version Lady J???

I was doing automation in Logic 4.7 on the PC with Reaktor no problem. I believe it recorded the MIDI movements on the MIDI track itself, but I haven't touched Logic now in over a year. Is the template you selected on the Remote 25 set for Logic? Does your movements affect ES2 (I know there wasn't a template for ES2 that I remember in the Remote 25?).

If it moves it real time when you twiddle the knobs, but won't record it, it sounds like you've got the MIDI filter on for recording. IF it won't twiddle in real time either, then you need to figure out what MIDI CC's control what.

Devon

DevonB wrote:

I was doing automation in Logic 4.7 on the PC with Reaktor no problem. I believe it recorded the MIDI movements on the MIDI track itself, but I haven't touched Logic now in over a year. Is the template you selected on the Remote 25 set for Logic? Does your movements affect ES2 (I know there wasn't a template for ES2 that I remember in the Remote 25?). If it moves it real time when you twiddle the knobs, but won't record it, it sounds like you've got the MIDI filter on for recording. IF it won't twiddle in real time either, then you need to figure out what MIDI CC's control what. Devon

my Remote 25 don't change ES2 knobs in real time and in "fake" time neither

but the notes that i play is very good in ES2.....i can hear the sound perfectly.......but when i tweak the knobs nothing happens.....(but logic's transport window receives the message)

anyone thinks that Logic 5.5 can have ES2 controlled by external controllers??

Since you didn't trust my advice enough to follow it perhaps this will help:

http://www.emagic.de/support/download/lainfo5e.html


You also didnt mention which version of Logic you had. Audio, Gold or Platinum?

In any event Logic 5.5 supports Logic Control and by extention automation using the hint and trick i posted above.

Check it:

Logic 5.5 for Mac OS X, Mac OS 9 and Windows
Enhancements and changes since Logic 5.4

Logic Control support for Logic Gold and Logic Audio


In addition to Logic Platinum, Logic Gold and Logic Audio now support Logic Control as well. Logic Control was originally released for Logic Platinum only. Logic Control functions specific to Logic Platinum cannot be used with Logic Gold or Logic Audio although they may show up in the display of Logic Control


etc etc.. you can view the whole list of changes since your version at the link above....

Please take my advice. I may just be a girl but i know about this sh*t.

Lady J wrote:

Since you didn't trust my advice enough to follow it perhaps this will help: http://www.emagic.de/support/download/lainfo5e.html You also didnt mention which version of Logic you had. Audio, Gold or Platinum? In any event Logic 5.5 supports Logic Control and by extention automation using the hint and trick i posted above. Check it: Logic 5.5 for Mac OS X, Mac OS 9 and Windows Enhancements and changes since Logic 5.4 Logic Control support for Logic Gold and Logic Audio In addition to Logic Platinum, Logic Gold and Logic Audio now support Logic Control as well. Logic Control was originally released for Logic Platinum only. Logic Control functions specific to Logic Platinum cannot be used with Logic Gold or Logic Audio although they may show up in the display of Logic Control etc etc.. you can view the whole list of changes since your version at the link above.... Please take my advice. I may just be a girl but i know about this sh*t.

SURE I TRUST U LADY J.......i was just asking because i think that is a hard job to reinstall logic......TNX VERY MUCH FOR THE ADVICE

You can get the manuals for Emagic's instruments from here....

http://www.emagicusa.com/supportfiles/

They include a list of MIDI controllers too.

Lady J: I'm with Logic 5.5 now and still i can't control ES2!!!!!

Andy: I downloaded ES2 manual and i can't find anything about midi controllers there.....it doesn't talk about the numbers of each ES2 control.....


HOW CAN LOGIC BE SO DAMN SH*T!!!!!!!!!!

oh lighten up, will ya ?

here's a movie just for you, --SYNTH--:

www.parsek.at/cerberus/environment/logiccc.mov



cerberus

--SYNTH-- wrote:

Lady J: I'm with Logic 5.5 now and still i can't control ES2!!!!! Andy: I downloaded ES2 manual and i can't find anything about midi controllers there.....it doesn't talk about the numbers of each ES2 control..... HOW CAN LOGIC BE SO DAMN SH*T!!!!!!!!!!

Go to the Automation options as my first first reply to you suggested.

You should follow those instructions now that you have 5.5. What version of logic do you have? Audio, Gold or Platinum?

It's not shit, you just gotta know how to go about it.

Here's one way to do it:

go to Options, song settings, midi options:

in the bottom:

change to "software use midi controller 65-127"

if you open the ES2, you should see the knob moving once you set the right controller number.


-ES2-
/various
65 tune
66 analog
67 fit reset
68 DOT
69 bend range
70 glide
71 poly/mono/legato
72 unision
73 CBD

/oscillator1
74 OSC1 on/off
75 OSC1 S
76 OSC1 C
77 OSC1 wav
78 OSC1 browser

/oscillator2
79 OSC2 on/off
80 OSC2 S
81 OSC2 C
82 OSC2 wav
83 OSC2 browser

/oscillator3
84 OSC3 on/off
85 OSC3 S
86 OSC3 C
87 OSC3 wav
88 OSC3 browser

/synthdraw
89 horizontal
90 vertical

/filter
91 drive top/left
96 res top/left
95 cut top/left
92 series/parallel
93 blend
94 bp/br/peak/hi/lp
97 fat/24/18/12
98 fat on/off
101 FM
100 res bottom/right
99 cut bottom/right

102 sine level
103 volume

/target1
104 target on/off
105 source
106 via
107 bottom bar
108 top bar

/target2
109 target on/off
110 source
111 via
112 bottom bar
113 top bar

/target3
114 target on/off
115 source
116 via
117 bottom bar
118 top bar

I got that from here:


http://groups.yahoo.com/group/logic-users/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/logic-users/files/%21CCnumbers/

Highly recommended yahoo group for Logic users and download the FAQ. It's packed with tips.

Pat

btw it's using the old automation format (with hyper edit) but it does work and that's what counts.

Logic automatically assigns CC No. 64-127 to VST/Audio-instruments. Thus you have to assign a CC No. >63 to your external controller knobs for controlling VST-parameters.

EDIT: Oh, paradiddle beats me.

-SYNTH-,

I think the answer to your question is still not given in this thread. If you want to use external MIDI fader boxes together with the (new v5.x) track automation, you HAVE TO CONVERT all incoming MIDI controllers to so called Fader Events!

This is done in the logic environment using a transformer object. Have a look on the net about this topic. It should be described at several places.

I did it once and never touched it again, since it's a pain in the a$$ (at least for environment haters like me). So please only ask me to describe it if you can't absolutely find it somewhere else..

good luck!

kybernaut

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