|Author||Topic: groundhog day reaches KVR again...|
Posted: 10th February 2004 05:40
Is it just me or is anyone else bemused by the constant '(insert latest vsti) sounds just like a virus'?
As great as it is, do you REALLY need it? Come on, There are loads of great synths out there that you can create phenominal sounds on.
Do you really think that the majority of people listening to your stuff (thats if you can tear yourself away from scouring the internet for the next 'Virus clone' to find the time to write some music ) could care less if the filter swept analogue burblings on your track sound just like a Virus?
Don't get me wrong I often fall for the 'if I just had a (insert VST) this would be so much better', but you know what? No matter how much equipment you get, you will always want more... that's just the way it is!
By the way, has anyone seen a Casio VL-tone VST, I really need one (preferably with working calculator)
Posted: 10th February 2004 05:46
ah yes! always more, always more...
sadly, I am not immune.
Posted: 10th February 2004 05:59
Welcome to K-v-R!
Posted: 10th February 2004 06:03
i concur with the good doctor
Posted: 10th February 2004 06:12
Anyone read Devon's review of Eve over at traxmusic?
There's another mouth waterer for a start.
Us mortals have no chance
Posted: 10th February 2004 06:14
Actually, I was playing with something yesterday that sounded just like a Virus. No really. It was made by these guys: www.access.de.
Posted: 10th February 2004 06:30
I haven't! I better head over there right away!
Neat lil synth.
Posted: 10th February 2004 06:43
Seriously, one of the ways I've been able to avoid the must-have syndrome is by using SynthEdit.. You can amuse yourself with a constant flood of new gadgets...
Posted: 10th February 2004 07:22
I think what happens is many of us would like to have the hardware equivilent of an emulated VSTi but due to space, money or just the desire to be entirely software based we seek an alternative.
I for one went to the Access website some months ago and listened to many of the audio demo's. I was quite impressed especially with the sound of the filters but there is no way I could afford one.
I would love to have the Indigo 2 but...
As far as the Casio VL goes, I would jump on one right away. My first songwriting was done with one along with another cheapo Casio(w/drums)bouncing between 2 Sanyo cassette decks and a Radio Shack mixer.Boy, those were the good old days.
Posted: 10th February 2004 07:29
I agree with Ian BUT Synthedit is almost as bad as VST/next big thing hunting! I constantly find myself thinking 'hmm, I could knock something upin synthedit to do that' and then I forget what I was writing and spend all my time creating little tools...
Damn this whole thing was so much easier when all I had was an Atari ST running Breakthru with Its 4 channel Sampler, a Cheetah MD16 Drum machine, a realistic mixer and a stack of records! Good god that was 16 years ago, how time flies...
Actually, I don't suppose anyone is planning a MD16 emulation are they...
Oh, by the way, Ian your stuff is ace! Now if I can just get my collection of homemade synthedit stuff past the 'I'll come back and finish that later' stage, I'll have to put up a few of them for you all to play with!
Actually, I think the most useful VST anyone could develop is a 'create more hours in a day' VST, or even a way of time stretching my evenings or days off, I might get somewhere...
Posted: 10th February 2004 07:35
ha ha! This is turning into a 'back in the day, all I had to write with was a rusty nail and a baked bean tin' thread Actually I might go and digg out my ST and software (now where did I put the bloody TV cable...) and see if the restrictions can inspire me! I used to be able to do amazing things on that software with a bit of lateral thinking!
Actually, does anyone know what happened to the people/person behind Breakthru and the Replay 16 sampler? Are they still about in an alternative guise?
Posted: 10th February 2004 08:00
Just a thought, but are we all talking garbage here? Amplitube full allows you to download Dsound player for free. That allows foot-switch patch changing...
Posted: 10th February 2004 08:08
Posted: 10th February 2004 08:56
Ahhhh, see you were caught in the KvR transporter meltdown weren't you?
We can only hope you don't return as a piece of smoking matter on the bridge.
Scotty must have been off drinkin that Romulan tea again.
Posted: 10th February 2004 09:11
Rats. This was the wrong article, wasn't it?
Posted: 10th February 2004 09:29
I will code you an emulation (with calculator) of the 'Casio VL-tone VST' for a modest £18,000.
Can deliver early 2005.
Flipper c/o World Domination Industries limited.
Posted: 10th February 2004 09:38
Make sure it has that cool flute sound in it ok?
Posted: 10th February 2004 09:45
Maybe you could sense my antipathy to the KVR Virus-Mania by my posts on the 'for those who love virus sounds' thread
Although my opinion of the Virus has improved since hearing the new Moog filters, I still think it is a synth suffering from a 'brand name fixation' effect. As though it has been sprinkled with some magic trancy pixie dust that no other VA can attain. To me it's nothing particularly special, certainly no more special than many of the sounds that CAN be made with VSTis, e.g. Reaktor, Rhino, Polyiblit, z3ta, etc etc.
I wish we could get back to concentrating on the music instead of chasing the mythic legend of Access as though this will make our music magically better
Posted: 10th February 2004 09:57
griels, the point is what sounds great to one person sucks to another.
Some people love novation, others Yamaha.
Rhino, zeta, albino, etc.
I think you know this by now.
If someone likes a sound an instrument makes and wants that I don't see what's wrong with that.
It's about individual choices, that's all.
Maybe people do fall into the hype of a so-called mystical sound but so what?
If I could take back any purchase I ever made because I thought "this is the one" I'd be a rich man.
Let them have fun.
Posted: 10th February 2004 09:58
like gary said, more sounds are always better
Posted: 10th February 2004 10:04
Indeed, horses for courses. It just riles me when every plugin ever made is held up against a 'legendary' piece of hardware. And of course the plugin cannot compete, because of this 'legend' that cannot be quantified or rationalised.
Anyway, the other thread was fun. Cheers Mighty
Posted: 10th February 2004 15:00
I can't say that I have ever had that thought. I can always find a synth to do whatever it is I need to do without having to look to far and wide.
Actually, I am always looking for ways to get rid of instruments. If I'm only using something in one or two songs I will eventually get around to finding another, more used instrument to replace it so I can get rid of it from my VST folder.
Posted: 10th February 2004 15:10
hmm,I'll say it again
give me more, more, more!
Posted: 10th February 2004 23:09
I don't need it. I have the original and it rocks! (and the calculator works too).
And yes, that flute sound is cool.
Posted: 10th February 2004 23:41
Don't know much about hardware, but if virustechnovstilust means Krakli creates more toys, then I'm all for it