...errr demo songs. It's been four hours since this was posted and no one started a thread over here yet. Man, must be a slow day or something.


http://www.linplug.com/Products/Albino_2/albino_2.htm


Devon

don't feel bad Devon. The same thing happened to my "new Arturia demo songs" Topic last week.BTW where were you? JUST KIDDING.

You needed a better hook in the title like Albino 2 demos versus.....

I'll go have a listen.

seamonkey wrote:

don't feel bad Devon. The same thing happened to my "new Arturia demo songs" Topic last week.BTW where were you? JUST KIDDING. You needed a better hook in the title like Albino 2 demos versus..... I'll go have a listen.

Hmmm... maybe "My Albino can beat up your Virus"? Oh, think of the view count!

Devon

Hehe, did I detect a certain Mr. DevonB between the demo makers?

I will listen this evening, too many people in the office now! Although...

Peter.

pschelfh wrote:

Hehe, did I detect a certain Mr. DevonB between the demo makers? I will listen this evening, too many people in the office now! Although... Peter.

Who me? Nah, that's some other DevonB.

Devon

I have been up since very early, I guess I could have started this thread

... they diddn`t enhance the matrix ... 8 slots is way too less ...
i was hoping so hardly ...

DevonB wrote:

pschelfh wrote: Hehe, did I detect a certain Mr. DevonB between the demo makers? I will listen this evening, too many people in the office now! Although... Peter. Who me? Nah, that's some other DevonB. Devon

I know who you are but WHO is Brice?

SOUNDS GREAT GUYS. I love Albino.
it's made it to my short list of stuff to buy.

How did you like working with it? any idea when the new demo will be available(be careful)?

Well, more people should provide m3us on their demo sites, for one thing.

Actually, the cool thing is that I've stopped listening to the "quality" of the synth. Which means it's sufficiently good

Oh yeah, Devon, your track needs to be longer. "The Era" is an awfully good tech demo, but it's a bit painful...

I think we need some more demos too, so I will knock some more up. devon you up for it as well?

IMHO this isn't good marketing for a synth capable of so much more. I really don't like these simple compositions.
Sorry for my harshness but I've got the feeling they want to show off too soon...

seamonkey wrote:

SOUNDS GREAT GUYS. I love Albino. it's made it to my short list of stuff to buy. How did you like working with it? any idea when the new demo will be available(be careful)?

I REALLY like working with it. The new arp is to DIE for! Demo? You'll have to ask over on the Linplug forum for a good answer. I'm not sticking my foot in my mouth. Not enough salt.

Devon

Mighty_Hero wrote:

I think we need some more demos too, so I will knock some more up. devon you up for it as well?

I might, but I've got an awful lot on my plate right now. I'll certainly give it a shot though!

Devon

I'd rather hear more details about how it is to work, esp. the arp and general impressions of differneces/improvements, more than more demos.

We all know the sound quality is excellent and the presets will be about as smooth and classy as can be. And hearing demos it's just so frustrating with a cloudy release time of 1st quarter, 2004.

But, of course, what I really want to know, is when I can get a hold of it. I figure it's a tossup between Big Tick releasing the next version of rhino and Linplug releasing Albino 2. With any luck it'll be about the same time and the family will wonder what's become of me for a few days.

the arp function is very simple to work. You can adjust the swing, the note length, each arp 'note', you can change i.e. 100,50,100,TIE, off...
The spread function is very cool, and the littlest amount affects the sound. uhm, what else is there you want to know? It runs very stable, patches sound indentical from version 1 when loaded, the GUI is easy on the eyes, and knobs are precise and easy to use.
I don't really know how all the new patches sound from Rob, but the ones I have heard are well, from Rob Papen

I liked 'The Era' best, although it was pretty simple ... Then again it's probably best to reserve space in the mix for different timbres rather than complex rhythms/harmonies, and it had a certain visceral charm. Some of the other tunes seemed a little flat and lacking 'oomph'.

Regardless, Albino 2 is sounding impressive!

wrench45us wrote:

I'd rather hear more details about how it is to work, esp. the arp and general impressions of differneces/improvements, more than more demos.

Don't forget we do have more waveforms to select from too, something like 80 digital waveform types, I believe now? I'd have to go count, but it's a lot!

As for the arp? Wow! 32 steps are laid in 4 columns of 8 each. Click on a 'cell', drag up all the way, change it to 'tie', to lengthen the note duration. Click a cell, drag it down all the way, turns off the note for that step. So easy to get rhythmic patterns QUICKLY from any sound. The 'swing' knob is nice too. Really, just so easy to jump in and get GOOD results out of the arp.

Devon

griels wrote:

I liked 'The Era' best, although it was pretty simple ... Then again it's probably best to reserve space in the mix for different timbres rather than complex rhythms/harmonies, and it had a certain visceral charm. Some of the other tunes seemed a little flat and lacking 'oomph'. Regardless, Albino 2 is sounding impressive!

Keep in mind guys, least on mine, what you hear is all Albino 2, except for a limiter on the output. Only the drums are old Albino 1 presets. And it's kind of the point to show off the new presets, since it's Rob's presets, no? 12 instances of Albino 2 though, making my poor little Intel sweat.

Devon

Ouuh My Goooood !!!

This sounds like a VIRUS!!!

No, this rather blowes the Virus away!

Having seen the impOSCar, now I want independent arpeggiators on the oscillators.

Sounds ace, though.

Sounds very nice indeed guys!

Remember that these are songs to highlight some of the presets in Albino 2, so there has to be plenty of space to hear these upfront. Which is exactly what Mighty and Devon did IMO.

Peter.

Not doing much for me. It sounds the same as 10 other Vst out there sorry need more then that to sell me

agent 007 wrote:

Ouuh My Goooood !!! This sounds like a VIRUS!!! No, this rather blowes the Virus away!

Hey!

Are you serious about this?

If so, that is really good news!

/Kire

Kire wrote:

agent 007 wrote: Ouuh My Goooood !!! This sounds like a VIRUS!!! No, this rather blowes the Virus away! Hey! Are you serious about this? If so, that is really good news! /Kire

Oh, not that again! Honestly, the only way to truly get the Virus sound is to save up your duckets and buy one. There is no substitute for the genuine article.

-Tronam

agent 007 wrote:

Ouuh My Goooood !!! This sounds like a VIRUS!!! No, this rather blowes the Virus away!

I really don't understand why people keep comparing every other VA-like VSTi with Access' Virus series. I do understand Virus is the most successful VA synthesizer out there, and from that perspective it would seem like some kind of formulae for success. However, there's no VSTi that truly sounds like a Virus. I've been tempted to record a couple of patches from mine to demonstrate just how different all these VSTi's are from a Virus. That said, we should all enjoy these new VSTi's for what they are and stop evaluating them based on how alike they may or may not be to a Virus. Judge them in their own right.

Had a listen to 'The Era' one.. very 80's, but hey the 80's are supposed to be in again.

Yeah cool stuff!. Real nice wide retro clap sound.

As for the whole comparing to virus 'thang', I just find it hilarious!!. There's soo many wonderful synth engines out there now, soft and hard, all with their own flavour of sound. Why try to make everything sound like a virus, where's the variety in that?!? lol

eish. get a grip virus comparing freaks!

Arksun

I liked all 4 of the demo tracks - Mars and Nightmare especially. Devon's was a nice track too but a bit too short.

Brice, how did you do all the lead panning on Nightmare? Was it just synced delay or stereo spread, or? Sounded great with headphones on anyway

So, who got the film references?

DevonB wrote:

The new arp is to DIE for! Demo? Devon

tha arp is what i'm really hanging out for. is it as versatile as zeta's arp?

kl3in wrote:

I've been tempted to record a couple of patches from mine to demonstrate just how different all these VSTi's are from a Virus. That said, we should all enjoy these new VSTi's for what they are and stop evaluating them based on how alike they may or may not be to a Virus. Judge them in their own right.

Yes, and thanks for recording some mp3s just to convince me how great the Virus can sound (in strict contrast to 99% of the other demo mp3s). Indeed there are some sounds on those mp3s you made which I haven't heard from any VSTi, except maybe the new Korg Legacy stuff, or the Arturia Moog stuff. By the way did those mp3s use the new Moog filter at all?

Indeed, for the type of sounds you showcased, it does sound great, but this VSTi sounds great to me too. And maybe I still prefer the sound of Lounge Lizard or Weedwacker for Reaktor! Or the Casio CZ-1? Or Nina Simone?

Mainly, I wish people would stop worrying so much about how 'uber' one particular synth is when many of these subtleties will no doubt be lost in a mix anyway, and the energy expended fretting about these niceties could be better used in writing more interesting compositions.

agent 007 wrote:

Ouuh My Goooood !!! This sounds like a VIRUS!!! No, this rather blowes the Virus away!

/me looks for a kitten picture...

Doug

ttoz wrote:

DevonB wrote: The new arp is to DIE for! Demo? Devon tha arp is what i'm really hanging out for. is it as versatile as zeta's arp?

Quite honestly, I have no idea, as I haven't touched z3ta's arp at all.

Devon

I'm pretty sure I prefer the sound of Nina Simone to a Virus. Sorry, Rob.

Mighty_Hero wrote:

I think we need some more demos too, so I will knock some more up. devon you up for it as well?

I have a Drum n Bass demo I did when I was beta testing the Os 9 version of Albino 1 which I never submitted. Should I still?

Well Lady it isn't up to me, but if you submit it to peter, and he likes it....
Thanks for the comments. The era was suppose to sound 80's ish, hence the title
these demo's need to be 'simple', so it shows the presets by themselves, and doesn't get to busy know what I mean?
I also haven't even seen the new presets myself, so rob could have went crazy with them, and we all will be drooling

Mighty_Hero wrote:

Well Lady it isn't up to me, but if you submit it to peter, and he likes it.... Thanks for the comments. The era was suppose to sound 80's ish, hence the title these demo's need to be 'simple', so it shows the presets by themselves, and doesn't get to busy know what I mean? I also haven't even seen the new presets myself, so rob could have went crazy with them, and we all will be drooling

RIght, I'm just saying, every demo i hear is trance or techno for these things. It leaves the impression that thats all it can do and I know many DnB people own Viruses so it only makes sense to have a DnB demo of Albino and other Viri influenced V/A synths, no?

Just cause it is drum n bass doesn't mean it is has to be complex. Most drum n bass is boringly simple, kinda like trance.

(dodges rotted fruits)

Lady J wrote:

Mighty_Hero wrote: Well Lady it isn't up to me, but if you submit it to peter, and he likes it.... Thanks for the comments. The era was suppose to sound 80's ish, hence the title these demo's need to be 'simple', so it shows the presets by themselves, and doesn't get to busy know what I mean? I also haven't even seen the new presets myself, so rob could have went crazy with them, and we all will be drooling RIght, I'm just saying, every demo i hear is trance or techno for these things. It leaves the impression that thats all it can do and I know many DnB people own Viruses so it only makes sense to have a DnB demo of Albino and other Viri influenced V/A synths, no? Just cause it is drum n bass doesn't mean it is has to be complex. Most drum n bass is boringly simple, kinda like trance. (dodges rotted fruits)

popular music is never complex. bach's mathematical fugues are complex. music is completely subjective therefor there's no bad music or bad music styles. thinking this way may help you relax

Oblagon wrote:

Lady J wrote: Mighty_Hero wrote: Well Lady it isn't up to me, but if you submit it to peter, and he likes it.... Thanks for the comments. The era was suppose to sound 80's ish, hence the title these demo's need to be 'simple', so it shows the presets by themselves, and doesn't get to busy know what I mean? I also haven't even seen the new presets myself, so rob could have went crazy with them, and we all will be drooling RIght, I'm just saying, every demo i hear is trance or techno for these things. It leaves the impression that thats all it can do and I know many DnB people own Viruses so it only makes sense to have a DnB demo of Albino and other Viri influenced V/A synths, no? Just cause it is drum n bass doesn't mean it is has to be complex. Most drum n bass is boringly simple, kinda like trance. (dodges rotted fruits) popular music is never complex. bach's mathematical fugues are complex. music is completely subjective therefor there's no bad music or bad music styles. thinking this way may help you relax

Relax? I'm sorry, but I can't help finding this "thinking lesson" a little cheesy. As if LJ didn't already realize the painful obviousness of this. I think the main point is that many of the Virii-wannabe soft synths follow in their father's footsteps of almost exclusively targetting particular musical demographics, when they are in fact capable of much more. I think it would be great to see more diversified music demos for these synths.

-Tronam

Tronam wrote:

Oblagon wrote: Lady J wrote: Mighty_Hero wrote: Well Lady it isn't up to me, but if you submit it to peter, and he likes it.... Thanks for the comments. The era was suppose to sound 80's ish, hence the title these demo's need to be 'simple', so it shows the presets by themselves, and doesn't get to busy know what I mean? I also haven't even seen the new presets myself, so rob could have went crazy with them, and we all will be drooling RIght, I'm just saying, every demo i hear is trance or techno for these things. It leaves the impression that thats all it can do and I know many DnB people own Viruses so it only makes sense to have a DnB demo of Albino and other Viri influenced V/A synths, no? Just cause it is drum n bass doesn't mean it is has to be complex. Most drum n bass is boringly simple, kinda like trance. (dodges rotted fruits) popular music is never complex. bach's mathematical fugues are complex. music is completely subjective therefor there's no bad music or bad music styles. thinking this way may help you relax Relax? I'm sorry, but I can't help finding this "thinking lesson" a little cheesy. As if LJ didn't already realize the painful obviousness of this. I think the point is that many of the Virii-wannabe soft synths follow in their father's footsteps of almost exclusively targetting particular musical demographics, when they are in fact capable of much more. I think it would be great to see more diversified music demos for these synths. -Tronam

yea relax. apparently that's where the market is. you target the biggest market first. that's how healthy biz operates. also, the demo songs I've heard hardly represent techno or trance. they are just synth cheese that is the easiest to make.

I agree about more style demos for ALL type synths, not just ablino 2. Minw weren't trance demos though

the lack of diversity in demo songs is hardly the point i was trying to make. if 'lady' feels the need too hear other music styles she can take the issue up with linplug. comments such: boring, simple or cheesy trance, posted repeatedly may be irksome to some. trance i listen to is neither simple, boring nor cheesy.

i don't showcase my dislike of rap, r'n'b, hiphop, d'n'b, alternative music. styles that to me are the same sounding, dumb shit. i understand the fact that for every single song i dislike there are probably millions of people who think the opposite.

DevonB wrote:

ttoz wrote: DevonB wrote: The new arp is to DIE for! Demo? Devon tha arp is what i'm really hanging out for. is it as versatile as zeta's arp? Quite honestly, I have no idea, as I haven't touched z3ta's arp at all. Devon

don't you use zeta? WOW!

it's arp is berserk. you can programm all types of custom patterns and sequence type notation, it's basically like a step sequencer/arp hybrid with amazing flexibility, that you can right full lead lines and much more with.

I'm certainly in favour of more demos in lots of styles for all synths. Drum n Bass can definitely come to the party. Not so sure about z3ta's tango demo, mind...

hm , sounds like any other synth

i dont need another emulation of analog synths

there are hundreds of them now

I do hope this is a troll...