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AuthorTopic: ATTN: EVM Synpack 1 customers!!
spoonboiler
Posted: 16th February 2004 12:31
I just DL'd the new Ultrsonique, and it is beyond amazing!!!! There is no demo yet, but if you are a registered Synpack 1 customer, you can get it from the synpack 1 download page. HOLY SHIT!!!! The sound, man, the sound!! Surprised Laughing Surprised Laughing Cool
ianweb123
Posted: 16th February 2004 12:44
I believe that you can get a demo by clicking on the small image of the plug on the home page..
LarryAW
Posted: 16th February 2004 13:12
spoonboiler wrote:
I just DL'd the new Ultrsonique, and it is beyond amazing!!!! There is no demo yet, but if you are a registered Synpack 1 customer, you can get it from the synpack 1 download page. HOLY SHIT!!!! The sound, man, the sound!! Surprised Laughing Surprised Laughing Cool


It sounds great, and this synth alone is worth the minimal amount the bundle costs.

Am I the only one with denormalization problems with Occam? (I think that is what the problem is.) The CPU jumps all over the place whether I am playing or not. Any suggestions? I have a Who's Who list of plug-ins, and these problems are very rare. I guess I should send a note to the developer. Anyway, Ultrasonique sounds awesome.
boin
Posted: 16th February 2004 14:44
About denormal problems with Occam...

I got that here too. I contacted Etric some time ago and he answered that a revision of his older plugins was in line just after some new ones were released (Incubus and Ultrasonique appeared after that).

Workaround: turn-off Occam's phase shifter. I do something equivalent with Iris too (turn-off F/X).

BTW I think Etric is doing a great job with his line of interesting VSTi's for a very affordable price. Right now I'm downloading Ultrasonique Very Happy
LarryAW
Posted: 16th February 2004 15:35
boin wrote:
About denormal problems with Occam...

I got that here too. I contacted Etric some time ago and he answered that a revision of his older plugins was in line just after some new ones were released (Incubus and Ultrasonique appeared after that).

Workaround: turn-off Occam's phase shifter. I do something equivalent with Iris too (turn-off F/X).

BTW I think Etric is doing a great job with his line of interesting VSTi's for a very affordable price. Right now I'm downloading Ultrasonique Very Happy


Thanks boin, I'll do that. I had a problem with another one, too, but I forgot which one. Whichever one it is, I'll turn off equivalent stuff to Occam. Fortunately, no problems with UltraSonique at all. Smile I know you will be enjoying it.

thanks again
spoonboiler
Posted: 16th February 2004 16:38
this is sooooo nice. Very Happy

as far as denormal, I believe digital fishphones has a plug that solves denormal issues.

ahhh, yes... here it is:
http://www.kvr-vst.com/get/879.html

Hope that helps. Very Happy
floyd
Posted: 16th February 2004 16:59
I got denormals back when I tried occam too. But I'll give his new synth a try anyway since the demo mp3 sounds good Smile
boin
Posted: 17th February 2004 03:53
The digitalfishphones denormalizer (sp?) generates a low level (inaudible) signal, but just big enough to avoid P4 CPU changing calculation mode for very small numbers. It works for VST's (reverbs, EQs, etc) but not for VSTi's that generate their own signals internally.

For Occam (and Iris) it seems that the denormals occur at their internal fx section; that is why it is solved by turning off the effects.

Regards,
Boin
ttoz
Posted: 17th February 2004 04:29
all these posts and no links? Confused
Neuromancer
Posted: 17th February 2004 05:26
The EVM synths are here: http://www.sinte-virtual.com/evmsynths/. Smile
djliquidsteele
Posted: 17th February 2004 05:38
I checked out the demo of ultrsonique this morning before work for a few minutes. I must say, very good sound. I love the the sound completely changes over time. So all you registered users...I want to get this straight because this seems like a good deal. Its 30 euro to register, and then you get lifetime free synths???
Chemik
Posted: 17th February 2004 05:49
I downloaded Ultrasonique this morning. Surprised

I will be buying the EVM synthpack1 tonight. Very Happy

What is so amazing is that I have been downloading demos lately to audition coz I want to buy something to support the scene. This one has sounded the best so far from the 9 more expensive ones I've tried. (I will not name names). This one is synthedit. Hopefully, it will stop the debate about synthedit's sound quality.
original flipper
Posted: 17th February 2004 06:16
Hi

I have a love/hate relationship with these synths!

I (previously)found a lack of velocity response on a couple of the units a real pain; I hope this has changed because as of 2pm today I bought the bleeders!

I think the interface/gui is nice and of course you get that cold harsh sound that is staple diet for many of the EVM range.

Anyways time to go and play!

Flipper.
papawillow
Posted: 17th February 2004 07:13
Congrats Etric if your reading... I am truley impressed with your art... I love getting lost in your synths for hours...

Maybe a DuoPhonic Protowave in the future pls. Smile
LarryAW
Posted: 17th February 2004 07:40
djliquidsteele wrote:
I checked out the demo of ultrsonique this morning before work for a few minutes. I must say, very good sound. I love the the sound completely changes over time. So all you registered users...I want to get this straight because this seems like a good deal. Its 30 euro to register, and then you get lifetime free synths???


I purchased the bundle because I liked the synths and I thought they were well-worth the asking price. I didn't know or assume the bundle would grow, since it was called Synpack "1." However, Synpack 1 has continued to grow and at least 4 synths have been added since I made my purchase. The developer may start Synpack 2 tomorrow, but IMHO, Synpack 1 is a great deal as is.

Larry
evmsynths
Posted: 17th February 2004 08:21
Hi Folks

I read KVR about 2 times a week now. I am glad you like my little baby. Smile

Some points I read:-

Velocity:
I do not incorporate this but if it is wanted, just email and ask. It is easy to add.

Denormalization:
This is one pink piggy! I am always working to reduce this. Currently with Occam 2.0 (15% max now) and a new Boogaloo. The older stuff suffers, Yes, but the new ones are getting better.

Lifetime free synths:
You wish! Wink
30 euro for 'all' current synpack1 synths and the ones I add in future is correct. There will be a synpack2 at some time but not for a while. There are many more additions to the synpack1 range to come.

..that cold harsh sound that is staple diet for many of the EVM range:
This is maybe just my idea of presets. When you make your own sound I am sure you will all do better than me.

DuoPhonic Protowave:
Sorry, Pappawillow the Proto can only do it's thing in mono due to the way it is made. Even two voices makes it go ballistic! Try sampling it for poly work!

More to come:
Future planned additions to synpack1 I am building include...
A ppg emu type thingy. It sound cool!
A very odd sampling module. It reads incomming waves 'live' and does realtime reverse, granny synth type slicing,pitchshifting and harmonizing.
Also, a few others, just a twinkling in my eye. Idea

Thankyou Spoonboiler for starting this forum. The cheque is in the post Very Happy Wink

Regards
Etric

http://www.sinte-virtual.com/evmsynth
LarryAW
Posted: 17th February 2004 08:56
I was just contacted by Etric, the developer, and he asked if I would help test VSTi's as he was developing them. I said yes, and others with the denormalization problem should send an email to Etric if you are also willing to test them. Etric said he hadn't yet been able to isolate the problem to one cause.

Occam, the VSTi I have normalization problems with, is one of his older VSTi's, and he said that he has developed some optimizations along the way. I'll say. I haven't been able to make UltraSonique use more than 5% of the CPU in Chainer.
spoonboiler
Posted: 17th February 2004 10:13
evmsynths wrote:
...Thankyou Spoonboiler for starting this forum. The cheque is in the post Very Happy Wink

Regards
Etric

http://www.sinte-virtual.com/evmsynth


Laughing Laughing Laughing
BONES
Posted: 17th February 2004 19:38
Well FUCK ME! if this synth doesn't sound incredible... but...
have you tried tweaking the sounds? I was really impressed with a couple of the resonant bass sounds but when I turned the Q down to zero it had no effect on the resonance on the patch. Even moving the cutoff from zero to max had very little effect. Seems as if the sound is largely from samples, hence the rather large download. Makes it a little dissappointing, especially given the very high CPU load of many of the good patches; over 30% on my Pentium-M 1.7GHz or around 6 times more than most of my little killerz. But, let me just reiterate, FUCK ME! if this synth doesn't sound incredible.
opiadream
Posted: 17th February 2004 19:50
evmsynths wrote:

A very odd sampling module. It reads incoming waves 'live' and does realtime reverse, granny synth type slicing,pitchshifting and harmonizing.


Surprised Cool Very Happy
THK
Posted: 17th February 2004 20:00
this is the coolest 'marketing concept' ever - almost a gift Wink ... and this latest addition is simply terrific. Thank you, Etric Exclamation
spikey
Posted: 17th February 2004 20:11
Quote:
Velocity:
I do not incorporate this but if it is wanted, just email and ask. It is easy to add.


YES- Add that icing on the cake please, as this looks delicious!
BONES
Posted: 18th February 2004 08:04
Yes, I have to say that velocity response is definitely the most important aspect of making a synth playable.
BONES
Posted: 18th February 2004 08:53
Well, I'm an idiot. I wass tweaking away on Filter no. 1 when it was Filter no. 2 that was doing the resonance. Man, that must be some mega-stack of filter modules to be using so much CPU. It's almost worth it but not quite; it was getting up to 43% on a single note.
Neuromancer
Posted: 18th February 2004 08:54
BONES wrote:
Yes, I have to say that velocity response is definitely the most important aspect of making a synth playable.

I agree. It's a huge(if not the foremost) source of expressiveness for every instrument every made, so I definitely look for it in a synth. Smile
evmsynths
Posted: 19th February 2004 04:08
[quote]Well, I'm an idiot. I wass tweaking away on Filter no. 1 when it was Filter no. 2 that was doing the resonance. Man, that must be some mega-stack of filter modules to be using so much CPU. It's almost worth it but not quite; it was getting up to 43% on a single note[/quote]

Only 1 filter for Osc2 'Bones'. It's not how many you have got, it's what you do with them that counts. Wink
Different hosts report [u]vastly[/u] different CPU use. LarryAW reports not being able to make it go over 5%

...also, I am adding velocity to UltraSonique now and others.

Regards
Etric
topaz
Posted: 10th May 2004 07:47
I deicided to support some fellow SE developers
it was a toss up between Superwave and EVM.

EVM won hands down Very Happy

being someone who makes SE stuff myself I find an amazing amount of snobism and negativity surrounding synthedit projects.
EVM has proven these people totally wrong with synths like Ultrasonique and ProLog-R worth 30 eur alone.

Thanks EVM Smile
original flipper
Posted: 10th May 2004 08:17
Hi

Although it would be fair to say that over the last two years I have gone from 'overloading' on synthedit/freeware to almost the opposite - very little, IMO there is a unique sound to synthedit synths that I love - my comments on the EVM - COLD HARSH DIGITAL sound that is staple diet for...this was a compliment because those sounds create MOOD.

I look foward to further development of the range and have no problem with the meagre charge for the privilege.

But the whole synth range MUST be updated for VELOCITY response as this plays such a large role in expressiveness - please update PROWAVE and BOOGALOO first!

By the way the original BOOGaRLOO had a much nicer GUI!!

Flipper.
CypherOne
Posted: 10th May 2004 08:22
BONES wrote:
Well, I'm an idiot.


It's official. Laughing Razz Laughing
Teksonik
Posted: 10th May 2004 11:28
I tried the Ultra Sonique demo but it will not load saved patches in Orion Platinum 5.2 in either .prs or .fxp format.Can anyone else try this,save an edited patch and then recall it in O Plat? Actually I've had this same problem with other SE creations.Sounds fantastic however and the gui is beautiful. Very Happy
evmsynths
Posted: 11th May 2004 03:38
Hi Teksonik

I have not had time to checkout O-Plat 5.2 in full yet but if you send me the .fxp I will look into it.
Also, if you can say what other SE synths have this problem it might help me.

Regards
Etric

http://www.sinte-virtual.com/evmsynths
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