Some of you might remember the standalone Chaosynth. Well theyve now released a new version which produces sound using ideas from granular synthesis and cellular automata, along with a subtractive synth. The synths reside in a VST interface.

Chaosynth can create some really cools sounds, not for the straight edge wussies

http://www.nyrsound.com/

looks interesting but their demo download procedure puts me off ...

... why all the 'manager' stuff needs to be cluttering my system up when i could just download a .dll i dont know ???

slainte rob

I agree,what's up the Manager bull? I've never seen such a complicated procedure for downloading a demo.

although on mac now, oh my i just went through the first steps of the demo download procedure and all i can say is how fucking ridiculous. they are not going to win many customers over that way

having said that i used to use chaos standalone years ago and created alot of groovy one shot sounds to use in a sampler.

it's capable of some really interesting stuff. since there used to be a mac version i hop ethey consider doing one of the vsti, but not without a better download system.

while we are at it, synaptics, how about a vsti (mac also ofcourse) version of virtual waves and probe??

I'm sorry the manager is putting people off. The reasons we have chosen to do it that way is:

* The SoulRush system contains several components, not all of which would necessarily be downloaded by the user

* It allows users to access updates and new programmes when they come available without having to install patches

* It would be complicated and messy to have separate installations for VST/DXi, Chaosynth/Ice, etc...

* The user only needs their username and password to re-install purchased software

To use the manager, simply download it, install, open it and run the update. Select the programmes you wish to use and try out (e.g. Chaosynth with the VST interface)

I'll try to make the download section of the website more friendly.

We are soon to start on a Mac version.

Regards

Joe Wright
www.nyrsound.com

I agree with the moaners, and will have to take a pass on this one.

I'm hardly going to install some extra software on my music computer, just so that I can install the software I actually want to try. My music computer has Internet Explorer, Cute FTP, Windows Explorer, a TCP/IP stack, a network card, and web access via my LAN through a proxy.

Surely this is enough?

Imagine if everyone did this.. for every software I installed I had to install some other software to support its delivery. So 2X the number of software products, are the number of installations I'd have to do... the machine and registry would be a hell of a mess.

Good thing there's no shortage of VST plugins for me to check out instead....

Laserguided wrote:

I agree with the moaners, and will have to take a pass on this one. I'm hardly going to install some extra software on my music computer, just so that I can install the software I actually want to try. My music computer has Internet Explorer, Cute FTP, Windows Explorer, a TCP/IP stack, a network card, and web access via my LAN through a proxy. Surely this is enough? Imagine if everyone did this.. for every software I installed I had to install some other software to support its delivery. So 2X the number of software products, are the number of installations I'd have to do... the machine and registry would be a hell of a mess. Good thing there's no shortage of VST plugins for me to check out instead....

The Captain sends his compliments and maintains that he is in unamious concord with Mr. Laserguided.

It's nice to be in good company Mark

I take the points on board. However, the programme only uses one registry key and is small.

It is similar to the live update programmes you get with virus checkers for example.

I'll look into creating some simpler downloads for people that don't want to use the manager.

Regards

Joe
www.nyrsound.com

OT sorry,

Can someone tell me why it's bad to have a lot of registry keys, why we need to clean the registry sometimes? Curious.. I don't know what this does. I have never done it, and my cpu works the same as it did on day one..

Hey Joe, (where you goin' with that gun in your hand...)

no no hehe, couldn't resist.

I mean, Hey, Joe, very cool, thanks for considering other options for different users

pheeleep... registries can get pretty damn bloated over time, if you install a lot of applications, and tend to keep your same operating system installation for many years. Although HDD size really isn't an issue for anyone anymore, it's not that they get big enough to make a difference - the biggest ones i've ever seen are around 100mb.

But for one registry writes certainly lead to fragmentation on your system drive. I'm not sure if the registry can be de-fragged, I think I remember hearing that it's one of the files that can't be de-fragged (unless you are defragging outside of windows I guess, which is rare these days), but I could totally be wrong on that, i'm not sure.

Also, the bigger the registry gets, in particular when its fragmented all over different spots of the drive, the slower registry lookups happen and the more cpu time is needed. Granted, it's minimal cpu time we are talking about here, but your operating system does a hell of a lot of lookups into the registry I would think, and it all adds up.

Anyway, is it anything to really be worried about? Probably not. But regardless, some PC users try to have a policy of keeping the registry as trim as possible. Some are obsessive about it I guess, and some just go through from time to time and manually clean up stuff that isn't needed any more (that's what I do). To each his own, a man's PC is his castle sometimes

Now back to the Hendrix...

heeeey Joe, where you goin'....

I have been a chaosynth user for years- if you had used it you would not be put off in the slightest by the extra set-up hassles- it's not like this is just another VA synth- we are talking about primitive Artificial Life controlling granular generators-

Thanks for the feedback.

I'm going to put up a simpler installation in the next 48hrs.

Joe

Laserguided wrote:

But for one registry writes certainly lead to fragmentation on your system drive. I'm not sure if the registry can be de-fragged, I think I remember hearing that it's one of the files that can't be de-fragged (unless you are defragging outside of windows I guess, which is rare these days), but I could totally be wrong on that, i'm not sure.

Diskeeper Pro has a feature called "Boot-Time
defragmentation for your system’s MFT (Master File Table) and Paging/Swap files can help resolve systems freezes, lock-ups and hangs." By doing the operation at boot time before windows is loaded, it can do low level file defragging. If it does MFT, it does the registry.

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If it does MFT, it does the registry.

That's for sure....now that I think more about it, the registry probably does get defragged normally, but this boot-time defrag is definately the best defrag option.

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Thanks for the feedback. I'm going to put up a simpler installation in the next 48hrs. Joe

Great news Joe, thanks for being so flexible!

ttoz wrote:

having said that i used to use chaos standalone years ago and created alot of groovy one shot sounds to use in a sampler.

"Groovy one shot sounds" ... now what is that? Sounds like a paradox to me. How can a one shot sound be groovy? (serious question! )

ttoz wrote:

having said that i used to use chaos standalone years ago and created alot of groovy one shot sounds to use in a sampler. it's capable of some really interesting stuff. since there used to be a mac version [...]

The only thing I remember is that it either crashed all the time or didn't produce any sound at all. But wasn't the Mac version something like a all time beta version anyway?

"I'm not sure if the registry can be de-fragged, I think I remember hearing that it's one of the files that can't be de-fragged (unless you are defragging outside of windows I guess, which is rare these days), but I could totally be wrong on that, i'm not sure"

A bit OT, but Ontrack's Fix-it-Utilities is great
for both deep cleaning AND defragging your registry.

Cheers.....CL

dr.wackler wrote:

ttoz wrote: having said that i used to use chaos standalone years ago and created alot of groovy one shot sounds to use in a sampler. "Groovy one shot sounds" ... now what is that? Sounds like a paradox to me. How can a one shot sound be groovy? (serious question! ) ttoz wrote: having said that i used to use chaos standalone years ago and created alot of groovy one shot sounds to use in a sampler. it's capable of some really interesting stuff. since there used to be a mac version [...] The only thing I remember is that it either crashed all the time or didn't produce any sound at all. But wasn't the Mac version something like a all time beta version anyway?

dude, by groovy i mean cool. I better not say funky cause that would have confused you even more lol but it would have meant the same thing. if you were ozzie you would have gotten the figure of speech. cheers T

JoeWright wrote:

We are soon to start on a Mac version. Regards Joe Wright www.nyrsound.com

Joe, a couple of questions if i may:

1 - i am still a little confused..will i be able to buy the mac version when released and use it on the machine that is NOT connected to the net? and download updates from another machine?
2 - will there be any upgrade offers for your loyal users who paid for chaosynth all that time ago (i am one of them)

Yes you can download on one machine and install on another.

There is a free upgrade for owners of Chaosynth 1.

Regards
Joe

ttoz wrote:

dr.wackler wrote: ttoz wrote: having said that i used to use chaos standalone years ago and created alot of groovy one shot sounds to use in a sampler. "Groovy one shot sounds" ... now what is that? Sounds like a paradox to me. How can a one shot sound be groovy? (serious question! ) dude, by groovy i mean cool. I better not say funky cause that would have confused you even more lol but it would have meant the same thing. if you were ozzie you would have gotten the figure of speech. cheers T

I'm sure I would have gotten that "funky" figure, 'cause I am!

JoeWright wrote:

Yes you can download on one machine and install on another. There is a free upgrade for owners of Chaosynth 1. Regards Joe

wow that's totally unexpected and really generous

i haven't received anything in my inbox yet though other than a link to the purchase page

Laserguided,

Thank you very much for taking the time to explain this to me! ( registry ).

Take care

I've posted a new, simpler, download which has demo versions of Chaosynth 2 and Ice.

Chaosynth 1 customers should e-mail sales@nyrsound.com to request an upgrade, giving their name and e-mail address.

The release of the mac version will be notified to the mailing list.

Thanks to all

Joe

Hi Joe.

I'll keep my eyes peeled the OS X version but while we wait... could you put up some sound examples for potential buyers to have a listen please?

I'm interested but I dunno what it sounds like!

Cheers,
Dave

pheeleep wrote:

Laserguided, Thank you very much for taking the time to explain this to me! ( registry ). Take care

My pleasure Not a problem at all..

Cheers

How different is V1 from V2?